Ive debated Inceptions puzzles and twists with a few people. And one or two possible/potential issues were uncovered in the process. But to say it was ridden with plot holes is an overstatement. The film hangs together remarkably well.
for me a plot hole is something when the connection between two points in a story doesnt makes sense, depending on what rules where established before. or weird behavoir of characters...
something like "well how did bruce or selina got so incredible bike driving skills?" that not a plot hole.. A movie shouldnt and cant explain everything. too much exposition can destroy a movie.
just use your imagination for sake. (also bruce is seen driving a motorcycle before the batpod. or do you wanna see him getting his batpod drivers license ? )
Once the Fallen got the sun-sucker thing to work, how exactly were he and the other Decepticons going to get off the planet before it was destroyed while "feeding on the sun"? If the sun-sucker thing was so dangerous, why did the Primes not just destroy it instead of destroying themselves to hide the Matrix of Leadership needed to activate it? Why doesn't anyone remark Alice being a human transformer, which no one seems to have seen before? Why didn't Alice just knock Sam out the first time she saw him and suck the information out of his brain instead of trying repeatedly to seduce him? If the Fallen was too weak to fight at the beginning, why is he able to fight Optimus at the end? If the Fallen was always the most powerful Decepticon, why didn't he attack Optimus all those years instead of watching Megatron fail time and again? Why...
The Dark Knight Rises had some pretty large plot holes, here's just one...
When Batman was flying the bomb out to sea, there were mere seconds left on the counter. How the hell did his craft have enough velocity to get out six miles and with a margin which allowed him to bail out? Is that craft really capable of going 500+ miles per hour?
Just really stupid, ruined the end for me to a degree.
How did Cypher get into and out of the Matrix to plot with Agent Smith? Obviously, Tank wasn't in cahoots with Cypher, so without an operator, how did Cypher get in and out?
- Superman: The Movie:
Superman sacrifices a whole town of people in exchange for Lois Lane. Selfish motherf***er.
- X-Men: The Last Stand:
Magneto, a terrorist, isn't punished for his crimes in the movie or for breaking out of prison in the second. He's just playing chess in the park like a jolly old man.
Minority Report had some of the biggest I've ever seen. Why weren't there 2 separate brown wooden balls for the two attempts on the pre-cog girl's mother's life? Why didn't the father of pre-crime just kill the mother once he had given the girl back since w/o her the rest couldn't predict murders anyway? Then he could have reclaimed custody of her for his project. Why didn't Anderton just GET OUT OF WASHINGTON DC?!!!!
TDK as well. Well, that's actually more plot conveniences than plot holes. Still ruined the movie for me.
Men in Black 3 had... well, it's hard to know where to begin.
The whole premises makes no sense.
In the movie, a villain goes back in time, and kills K. The timeline is changed, but for some reason J remembers everything. They never explain why he is the only one who remembers... though they do at least ask the question in the movie.
What makes this even odder is that J is still part of MIB. Even though it was K who recruited him. Even though they tell him that K has been dead for 40 years. How J is still part of MIB is never explained.
And that's just the tip of the iceberg. The movie's premises starts with two major plot holes. And the movie's climax has an even bigger plot hole, which makes the whole third act pointless...
The twist at the end renders basically the entire movie impossible. There are those who have defended it, but you have to rip the whole movie down to even glimpse an idea that makes sense.
I don't think there's ever been a time travel movie that made 100% sense. Hell, by all accounts Terminator 2 is nothing but one giant plot hole since Reece says clearly in Terminator 1 that nobody else could come through since they blew up the time machine.
I don't know which movie had the most plot holes, but the single biggest plot hole I ever witnessed was the gun swap in Equilibrium...
Bale's character gets arrested on suspicion of murdering police officers. However he apparently swapped his gun with that of his partner earlier on, and therefore gets him accused instead (their guns have some kind of built-in ID chip and tracking devices).
"Well that's all good" you'll tell me. Only problem is that the murders happened before the scene in which he swaps the guns......
I don't know what happened in the editing room, but that's seriously ****ed up.
The twist at the end renders basically the entire movie impossible. There are those who have defended it, but you have to rip the whole movie down to even glimpse an idea that makes sense.
Is that the French movie about this woman who stayed at her friend's house and they all start getting massacred and the twist was that [blackout]it was her killing them and she didn't realize it[/blackout]?
Once the Fallen got the sun-sucker thing to work, how exactly were he and the other Decepticons going to get off the planet before it was destroyed while "feeding on the sun"? If the sun-sucker thing was so dangerous, why did the Primes not just destroy it instead of destroying themselves to hide the Matrix of Leadership needed to activate it? Why doesn't anyone remark Alice being a human transformer, which no one seems to have seen before? Why didn't Alice just knock Sam out the first time she saw him and suck the information out of his brain instead of trying repeatedly to seduce him? If the Fallen was too weak to fight at the beginning, why is he able to fight Optimus at the end? If the Fallen was always the most powerful Decepticon, why didn't he attack Optimus all those years instead of watching Megatron fail time and again? Why...
When the recently revived Megatron seemingly flew to another planet, I wondered at what speed can a Transformer fly through space. Then i thought maybe he's on the moon. Or Cybertron. Except those are ruled out by the 3rd movie(aparently the Badguyicons need a portal to bring their troops even as close as the moon.) And why we never knew Megatron was working for this guy that didnt come up for a movie and a half. Did he know Megatron spent 100 years frozen? How was it that Megatron worked for him, exactly?
And then there's the Prophesy that only a Prime can defeat the Fallen. There was nothing to suggest that Fallen could not have been killed by anyone else.
EDIT: REGARDING MIB3
SPOILERS IM ON A PHONE SORRY!
In that scene in which a Jay rushes Boris, gets stabbed by his fleshurikens, grabs him and travels through time to the exact moment before he rushes Boris...
Wouldnt he find himself before he rushes? Wouldnt he still be prickled? Wouldnt Boris just shoot at him differently at least after his first miss? Wouldnt Boris travel back in time with him?(okay i forgot if he lost him before the fall?ENDOF SPOILERS SORRY
Been a long time since I've seen it. I'd have to revisit it to see if there are any plot holes. And I don't say that plot holes are an absolute no-no. They are pretty unavoidable in genre film making. I don't mind plot holes as long as they are FOR something. T2 being a good example.
Casablanca. People have been trying to figure out the purpose of the letters of transit for 70 years, since they never actually get checked and Strasser apparently can overrule them anyways. As is there is nothing really preventing Rick from getting on the plane with Elsa and Lazlo. Not that letters signed by Du Galle would do them much good in Vichy France to begin with. Fantastic movie, but the more one thinks about the plot the less sense it makes.
Because the movie ends more iconic and memorable when he doesn't get on the plane with her. It's bittersweet that way. Ending that way was more important to the film makers than that plot point making sense.
Men in Black 3 had... well, it's hard to know where to begin.
The whole premises makes no sense.
In the movie, a villain goes back in time, and kills K. The timeline is changed, but for some reason J remembers everything. They never explain why he is the only one who remembers... though they do at least ask the question in the movie.
What makes this even odder is that J is still part of MIB. Even though it was K who recruited him. Even though they tell him that K has been dead for 40 years. How J is still part of MIB is never explained.
And that's just the tip of the iceberg. The movie's premises starts with two major plot holes. And the movie's climax has an even bigger plot hole, which makes the whole third act pointless...
They technically did explain how J remembered K. When J asked that guy how only he remembers K. The guy mentioned how J was already there to remember K. Which he was there but then K flashed little J which is how J remembers K. He was there as the guy stated. J just did not remember it due to K flashing him as a kid
They technically did explain how J remembered K. When J asked that guy how only he remembers K. The guy mentioned how J was already there to remember K. Which he was there but then K flashed little J which is how J remembers K. He was there as the guy stated. J just did not remember it due to K flashing him as a kid
The timeline was altered by killing K. Everyone was affected, except J for some reason.
I'm not talking about the ending. I'm talking about the first half of the movie. When the villain goes back in time, he kills K. That changes the course of history. Everyone knows that K died. But somehow J is unaffected by the time stream changing.
Which raises another issue. Even if J was somehow unaffected by the timeline change, why is he still part of MIB? He only came to be part of MIB because K recruited him. If K died in this new timeline... why is J still part of MIB?
I don't think there's ever been a time travel movie that made 100% sense. Hell, by all accounts Terminator 2 is nothing but one giant plot hole since Reece says clearly in Terminator 1 that nobody else could come through since they blew up the time machine.
Daredevil comes to mind. The biggest one being how the Kingpin inexplicably gets arrested at the end, even though there's no indication that the police even suspect him of anything.
The Dark Knight Rises had some pretty large plot holes, here's just one...
When Batman was flying the bomb out to sea, there were mere seconds left on the counter. How the hell did his craft have enough velocity to get out six miles and with a margin which allowed him to bail out? Is that craft really capable of going 500+ miles per hour?
Just really stupid, ruined the end for me to a degree.
To paraphrase a line from one of my favourite movies, The Dark Knight Rises' plot has more holes in it than my daddy's condom.
How about the fact that he was crippled in the beginning of the movie and needed a knee brace to become Batman again, but then his knee was just fine when he was locked away in Bane's prison?
Or that Bane had stripped him of his money, his ID, his passport, everything, yet when he escaped the prison IN AFGANISTAN, he somehow managed to make it back to GOTHAM CITY, USA in plenty of time to find the bomb, and sneak into the city which had been quarantined by The US Army.
Or that he wasted 4 hours painting the Bat Symbol onto the side of a building in gasoline in order to announce his arrival.
Or the fact that he was able to jump down onto extremely thin ice right in front of Commissioner Gordon, from the bridge leading into Gotham, while wearing very heavy body armour (that in the previos movie allowed him to squash a car flat after jumping out of a penthouse suite), yet he doesn't break through the ice.
Or that somehow Bruce knows exactly what's going on in Gotham city, even AFTER he destroyed the giant flat screen TV Bane had left for him.
Or the fact that Batman miraculously knows just how to disarm the bomb, even though Bane took great pains to let everyone know that the one and only person in the entire world with that knowledge is dead, by blowing his brains out on national television.
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