The Amazing Spider-Man When and how should Gwen Stacy die?

[The Morningstar]

Exactly what it says on the tin.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Exactly what it says on the tin.

So you meant Gwen should die from a "sexual misadventure"?

 

[Spiderman6592]

Gwen should die exactly how she dies in the comics. It's not our fault Raimi kind of ****ed up the chance to originally convey the death of Gwen Stacy on film.

 

[The Morningstar]

So you meant Gwen should die from a "sexual misadventure"?

Precisely, dear Watson!

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I think, ethically, it could be argued that should have told her. Something rubs me the wrong way about Peter keeping that secret from her, and therefore depriving her of the choice to accept the risks of being Peter's girlfriend or not.

Well, Peter wa going through a lot at the tiem and he was still looking out for those he loved. Peter was still learning back when gwen died. Hell, even MJ wasn't told that Peter is Spider-Man in the comics. She informed Peter that she seemed ot have known all along.

While it may come off as selfish, that's all part of Peter's learning experience.

 

[Gwendolyn Stacy]

No.



I think, ethically, it could be argued that should have told her. Something rubs me the wrong way about Peter keeping that secret from her, and therefore depriving her of the choice to accept the risks of being Peter's girlfriend or not.

Mayble she'll find out in one of the movies. By the way, in the comics, did Mary Jane ever found out about Peter?

 

[Godzilla2014]

Gwen should die exactly how she dies in the comics. It's not our fault Raimi kind of ****ed up the chance to originally convey the death of Gwen Stacy on film.

I'd definitely like her to be conscious at the time. It makes it more misleading and shocking, getting the audience to expect her to be rescued. Imagine it:
Gwen is falling, screaming for dear life.
Spider-Man fires a webline, it connects.
She falls silent. We know our hero has failed. The woman he loves is now dead because of his attempt to save her.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Well, Peter wa going through a lot at the tiem and he was still looking out for those he loved. Peter was still learning back when gwen died. Hell, even MJ wasn't told that Peter is Spider-Man in the comics. She informed Peter that she seemed ot have known all along.

While it may come off as selfish, that's all part of Peter's learning experience.

This is true.

Mayble she'll find out in one of the movies. By the way, in the comics, did Mary Jane ever found out about Peter?

It was revealed that she knew all along in a retcon.

 

[Troy_Parker]

Why wouldn't you rather have Gwen unconcious?

It would be far more tragic to have Peter (and the audience) think that he has saved her, UNTIL he descends to her body.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Why wouldn't you rather have Gwen unconcious?

It would be far more tragic to have Peter (and the audience) think that he has saved her, UNTIL he descends to her body.

Because it's actually more misleading if she's conscious. The audience will expect the screaming damsel-in-distress to be successfully rescued. It's what we've seen in countless superhero movies, from Superman: The Movie to all 3 of Sam Raimi's Spider-Man films. They'd be more shocked by her death.
Plus, Norman Osborn is a sadistic son-of-a-***** who probably would keep her conscious.

 

[ModestMr.Green]

Why would anyone want to watch Emma Stone die? You heartless monsters.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Why would anyone want to watch Emma Stone die? You heartless monsters.

Because she's playing Saint Gwen, the holy virgin martyr of Spider-Man. Plus, if she's as annoying in the film as she was in the original comics, then I will pray for her death.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Gwen, not Emma....Jeez

 

[spideyguy16]

Emma is a great actress and darn loveable. So seeing her die would also grab the audiences attention.
I mean does anybody really want to see someone just innocent with a great attitude die? Nope! Cue sadness and an actual reaction from the audience if the scene is done with the attention it deserves, then i could see it becoming one of those videos that make people cry on youtube lol

 

[chaseter]

So you meant Gwen should die from a "sexual misadventure"?

Who doesn't want to die from that?

 

[Troy_Parker]

Because it's actually more misleading if she's conscious. The audience will expect the screaming damsel-in-distress to be successfully rescued. It's what we've seen in countless superhero movies, from Superman: The Movie to all 3 of Sam Raimi's Spider-Man films. They'd be more shocked by her death.
Plus, Norman Osborn is a sadistic son-of-a-***** who probably would keep her conscious.

It wouldn't be misleading. She's screaming as she falls, the second Spider-man's web catches her, the screaming stops immediately.

It would be more misleading if she's unconcious, once Spider-Man catches her and goes to her body, and finds out she's dead. What if the Goblin killed her before? I think that's what would be going through the audience's minds.

It would be shocking both ways, and I wouldn't mind seeing it happen either way.

 

[Godzilla2014]

It wouldn't be misleading. She's screaming as she falls, the second Spider-man's web catches her, the screaming stops immediately.

It would be more misleading if she's unconcious, once Spider-Man catches her and goes to her body, and finds out she's dead. What if the Goblin killed her before? I think that's what would be going through the audience's minds.

It would be shocking both ways, and I wouldn't mind seeing it happen either way.

Her screaming would mislead the audience's expectations of the outcome before it happens. They'll think that she's about to be rescued, like other damsels-in-distress in other superhero movies.

Plus, if she's unconscious, how would we know that she wasn't already dead? Would it even matter?

I think it was a mistake for her to be unconscious in the first place.

 

[Troy_Parker]

That's exactly it. The questions raised can be answered in a sequel. I want Peter to have all of this doubt as to whether or not he stood any at chance saving her.

Was it another one of the Goblin's twisted games where he had already killed her, and wanted to give Spider-Man some false hope?

Was she alive? Could he have prevented her death if he catched her differently?

But I can see what you mean, it would be interesting to see her alive and screaming then suddenly have everything go quiet. The audience would definitely be shocked.

 

[Godzilla2014]

That's exactly it. The questions raised can be answered in a sequel. I want Peter to have all of this doubt as to whether or not he stood any at chance saving her.

Was it another one of the Goblin's twisted games where he had already killed her, and wanted to give Spider-Man some false hope?

Was she alive? Could he have prevented her death if he catched her differently?

But I can see what you mean, it would be interesting to see her alive and screaming then suddenly have everything go quiet. The audience would definitely be shocked.

If the question were brought up in a future installment, then it would work, but otherwise, just have her be conscious.

 

[Gwendolyn Stacy]

Because she's playing Saint Gwen, the holy virgin martyr of Spider-Man. Plus, if she's as annoying in the film as she was in the original comics, then I will pray for her death.

You don't like Gwen? How come?

 

[Godzilla2014]

You don't like Gwen? How come?

Because she was an annoying ***** constantly nagging Peter. And I like Mary Jane more.

 

[spideyguy16]

I like mary jane better too, but gwen is cool too

 

[abnerstacy]

The power of the scene in the comics is derived from its ambiguity. It's also what helps it to avoid cliche. And while having her conscious would be moderately misleading, for people who don't know that Gwen will die, finding out along with Peter that she's dead ("No... you can't be... I saved you. Don't you see, I saved you... " and then the rage that follows...) can have a hellava lot of impact. Coupled with the implication that Pete may have killed and isn't even aware, well, that's some heavy ****! As well as potentially breath-takingly cinematic. Also, I feel that Peter does not need to know that he may have been responsible. Just as in the comics, all that's needed is a snap sound. I can hear an audience gasping. The questions that are raised are far more powerful and central to the tragedy of Gwen's death.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Because she was an annoying ***** constantly nagging Peter. And I like Mary Jane more.

Well, Gwen was worried a lot of the time, if you ask me. At parties, etc. MJ even had to tell her to loosen up, but I think that's one of the things that made Gwen interesting and likeable.

MJ is a fan favorite though and rightfully so.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Well, Gwen was worried a lot of the time, if you ask me. At parties, etc. MJ even had to tell her to loosen up, but I think that's one of the things that made Gwen interesting and likeable.

MJ is a fan favorite though and rightfully so.

Mary Jane was loved by fans simply because she comes across as the more fun to hang out with. Gwen didn't do much other than worry about Peter.