The Amazing Spider-Man When and how should Gwen Stacy die?

[spideyboy_1111]

Plus they've already shown with the kid in the car and Gwen that he knows how to web someone properly while they are falling. The kid he makes it big enough to where the impact would hit multiple spots in the body thus lessening the impact on his spine and with Gwen I believe it was basically the same thing. You can't kill her with the webbing breaking her neck, there are million different ways Green Goblin can kill her and still have it be partially Peter's fault. Those are the most important elements to the death. Green Goblin does it and its somewhat Peter's fault, it can be changed.

I don't want to see her die, I loved their relationship and chemistry so thats going to make the death already very impactful. I don't want to see it in ASM2 because I'm sick of the whole oh we gotta make it dark like Empire Strikes Back and honestly I've only seen it work once with TDK. I'd say use ASM2 to build up their togetherness and then kill her in the beginning of 3. Finish off the trilogy with the Green Goblin as the villain.

amongst peter's super powers, "super aim" isn't exactly one of them. He still could miss, or he could miss judge and the velocity could kill her. And truth be told, if she falls headfirst.... he can't web her torso, but her legs (like in the comics)

people go on and on about "i love gwen and peter's chemistry and i no longer want her to die" but isn't that more reason to actually kill her off? her death changed the comic industry and ended the Silver Age... Killing her off is suppose to be HUGE and TRAGIC. If it's void of emotion, and we didn't love gwen, then what's the point of killing her?

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Plus they've already shown with the kid in the car and Gwen that he knows how to web someone properly while they are falling. The kid he makes it big enough to where the impact would hit multiple spots in the body thus lessening the impact on his spine and with Gwen I believe it was basically the same thing. You can't kill her with the webbing breaking her neck, there are million different ways Green Goblin can kill her and still have it be partially Peter's fault. Those are the most important elements to the death. Green Goblin does it and its somewhat Peter's fault, it can be changed.

I don't want to see her die, I loved their relationship and chemistry so thats going to make the death already very impactful. I don't want to see it in ASM2 because I'm sick of the whole oh we gotta make it dark like Empire Strikes Back and honestly I've only seen it work once with TDK. I'd say use ASM2 to build up their togetherness and then kill her in the beginning of 3. Finish off the trilogy with the Green Goblin as the villain.

What makes the webbing iconic is that involved Spider-man's trademark ability and he's rescued dozens of people using webbing lines plus the audience has seen him do it so many times they think the outcome is predictable.

This will only give the failed web-line rescue more impact. Most people will be shocked when it results in Gwen's death.

 

[OP84CC82]

amongst peter's super powers, "super aim" isn't exactly one of them. He still could miss, or he could miss judge and the velocity could kill her. And truth be told, if she falls headfirst.... he can't web her torso, but her legs (like in the comics)

people go on and on about "i love gwen and peter's chemistry and i no longer want her to die" but isn't that more reason to actually kill her off? her death changed the comic industry and ended the Silver Age... Killing her off is suppose to be HUGE and TRAGIC. If it's void of emotion, and we didn't love gwen, then what's the point of killing her?

But if Peter knew webbing her legs was the only way, then what would the point be if she was just going to die?

 

[Eddie Brock]

I've always thought an alternative would be that he catches her with a web-line, but the web-line snaps and she hits the water at terminal velocity.

 

[OP84CC82]

I've always thought an alternative would be that he catches her with a web-line, but the web-line snaps and she hits the water at terminal velocity.

It sorta makes sense, but isn't Spider-Man's webbing supposed to be pretty strong?

 

[spideyboy_1111]

But if Peter knew webbing her legs was the only way, then what would the point be if she was just going to die?

because peter didn't know it was going to kill her. he's not a precog. and just because he's smart doesn't mean he's Amadeus Cho and is calculating terminal velocity and web impact fast enough while his love of his life is falling from a bridge....

 

[Eddie Brock]

It sorta makes sense, but isn't Spider-Man's webbing supposed to be pretty strong?

They've established in the comics that it takes a split-second to dry and harden. If it happens bang-bang, the whiplash could snap the line before the web reaches full strength. Alternatively, they could introduce a subplot where Spidey's web is getting weaker throughout the movie, and he keeps telling himself that he should fix it, but he never gets around to it.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

They've established in the comics that it takes a split-second to dry and harden. If it happens bang-bang, the whiplash could snap the line before the web reaches full strength. Alternatively, they could introduce a subplot where Spidey's web is getting weaker throughout the movie, and he keeps telling himself that he should fix it, but he never gets around to it.

no offense... but that sounds overly complicated to have happen.. her neck snapping is much more simple. Not to mention is a much better visual of having peter pull her up thinking he saved her only to realise she's dead.

do you really want there to be no body or a bruised damaged bloody soaking wet body that spidey dives down into the water to pull up?

the comic handled it absolutely perfectly. there's no reason to change that

 

[Eddie Brock]

no offense... but that sounds overly complicated to have happen.. her neck snapping is much more simple. Not to mention is a much better visual of having peter pull her up thinking he saved her only to realise she's dead.

do you really want there to be no body or a bruised damaged bloody soaking wet body that spidey dives down into the water to pull up?

the comic handled it absolutely perfectly. there's no reason to change that

It's happened before, and it would give them a chance to show Peter making the webbing, as opposed to OsCorp.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

It's happened before, and it would give them a chance to show Peter making the webbing, as opposed to OsCorp.

well

A) the line breaking again.. is just added fluff that doesn't need to be their, and takes away other time for far more important plots imo

B) Oscorp isn't suddenly going to make weaker webbing.. peter however could if he messed up

C) again, none of the above is needed, because it's easier and less time consuming to just do that comic version

 

[Eddie Brock]

well

A) the line breaking again.. is just added fluff that doesn't need to be their, and takes away other time for far more important plots imo

B) Oscorp isn't suddenly going to make weaker webbing.. peter however could if he messed up

C) again, none of the above is needed, because it's easier and less time consuming to just do that comic version

OsCorp isn't going to make weaker webbing... but OsCorp's webbing isn't designed for how Peter's using it.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

OsCorp isn't going to make weaker webbing... but OsCorp's webbing isn't designed for how Peter's using it.

thus why it makes more sense for it to snap a neck rather than break... if it can catch a car, and catch his own body every time he swings from it... there's no reason it should suddenly snap for a girl 30-40 pounds lighter than him.

(hell we saw him jump off a sky scraper in this film and web him self right before hitting the ground)

the bio-cable can also pull a friggin jet liner..

 

[Eddie Brock]

I'm just throwing ideas out there. I'm not sold on any one.

 

[OP84CC82]

no offense... but that sounds overly complicated to have happen.. her neck snapping is much more simple. Not to mention is a much better visual of having peter pull her up thinking he saved her only to realise she's dead.

do you really want there to be no body or a bruised damaged bloody soaking wet body that spidey dives down into the water to pull up?

the comic handled it absolutely perfectly. there's no reason to change that

But it makes Peter look like a dumb-ass who didn't pay attention in class when they were talking about Newton's Laws.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

But it makes Peter look like a dumb-ass who didn't pay attention in class when they were talking about Newton's Laws.

again... He had to make a split second decision....

Superheroes make mistakes and are not infallible

 

[The Guard]

My guess is he'll feel responsible because he involves her, despite the promise he made to Captain Stacy...not because he's actually going to be responsible.

 

[JerseyJoker]

Part of me wants to see it done right on film, another part of me doesn't want to see it done at all cause i f'n love Emma Stone as Gwen sooo much.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

My guess is he'll feel responsible because he involves her, despite the promise he made to Captain Stacy...not because he's actually going to be responsible.

It'd most likely be both

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

again... He had to make a split second decision....

Superheroes make mistakes and are not infallible

Yeah Batman is the master of prep time, not Parker.

Peter is just a teenager and not trained for every situation like Bruce Wayne.

Batman think ten steps ahead, Parker relies on superhuman reflexes and second-to-second impulses.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Part of me wants to see it done right on film, another part of me doesn't want to see it done at all cause i f'n love Emma Stone as Gwen sooo much.

I'm in the same boat.

I would miss Emma terribly if she dies in the second movie but it does make for a more complete and timely story arc setting up a satisfying resolution by the third film.

 

[DigificWriter]

I'm still waiting on those reasons why Gwen's death has to happen in Film 2.

 

[k1dn1nj4]

The Gwen Stacy saga is one of the most iconic moments in Spidey's canon. In fact it's one of the most iconic moments in all of comics. I think it's only right that the film ends Gwen's story in the same tragic fashion. I think it should be done in the second film because I don't think a Spidey interpretation will be right without Mary Jane being introduced and becoming the foremost love interest. And with only three films to do it, I think that relationship needs a film to itself in order to characterize itself. Emma Stone's portrayal of Gwen was endearing as hell but my personal preference would be for them to introduce M.J. in the second film and have a sort of love triangle situation play out, with it culminating in Gwen's... "finale" and M.J. comforting Peter (albeit ineffectively at first). The third film would then deal with Peter overcoming that grief and getting closer with M.J.

It's going to be really sad to see this interpretation of Gwen die though, if that's the route they take it. I mean wow.

 

[DigificWriter]

^ Nice post. It doesn't give me what I asked for, though.

I would also like to ask why everyone is convinced that all we're going to get is a trilogy.

 

[Eddie Brock]

^ Nice post. It doesn't give me what I asked for, though.

I would also like to ask why everyone is convinced that all we're going to get is a trilogy.

Because the only CBM series to go past three were Superman in the 70s and Batman in the 90s, and both of those turned to complete crap by the end?

 

[DigificWriter]

^ That's not really a reason.

With some things, there are valid reasons for only expecting a trilogy, such as what has happened with the Nolan Batman films with Nolan and Co. flat-out saying that there would only be three films. To my knowledge, there has been no indication from anyone involved with TASM that they're only planning a trilogy, so there is no reason that I can see for this expectation that a trilogy is all we're getting.