The Amazing Spider-Man When and how should Gwen Stacy die?

[Eddie Brock]

^ That's not really a reason.

With some things, there are valid reasons for only expecting a trilogy, such as what has happened with the Nolan Batman films with Nolan and Co. flat-out saying that there would only be three films. To my knowledge, there has been no indication from anyone involved with TASM that they're only planning a trilogy, so there is no reason that I can see for this expectation that a trilogy is all we're getting.

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[I Am The Knight]

^ Nice post. It doesn't give me what I asked for, though.

I would also like to ask why everyone is convinced that all we're going to get is a trilogy.

I love how you compliment his post and then immediately tell him it was useless LOL.

And yes most likely we'll get a trilogy. The death of a beloved character is something that tends to happen in sequels...And they need to introduce MJ anyway

It's gonna be really sad seeing Gwen die.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I'm still waiting on those reasons why Gwen's death has to happen in Film 2.

So the broken promise to Capt. Stacy won't lose it's impact or relevancy.

 

[DigificWriter]

I Am The Knight: It wasn't useless, but it didn't give me what I'm asking for.

Eddie Brock: How recently was that FB message posted, JOOC? The reason I ask is because Avi Arad seemed to hint at wanting to do a number of films in emulation of what is happening with the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Also, just because a trilogy is all that has been officially greenlit at this time doesn't necessarily mean a whole lot at this juncture.

Even if all we're getting is a trilogy, though, that still doesn't mean that things have to play themselves out the way everyone seems to be insisting that they do (re: Gwen's death).

So the broken promise to Capt. Stacy won't lose it's impact or relevancy.

Huh?

 

[Eddie Brock]

It was posted July 2.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

^ Nice post. It doesn't give me what I asked for, though.

I would also like to ask why everyone is convinced that all we're going to get is a trilogy.

No offense but you have and will disagree with every post for it....

 

[DigificWriter]

Eddie Brock: Thanks for that info. I'll have to go see if Avi's comments were made before or after that message was posted.

 

[Jexx]

I think that the strict three film policy for the Nolan-Batman films makes sense because those flicks are fairly long.. I mean, if you take the three films and cut their times at the normal 2 hour mark, and add the extra time together you get an hour and a half.

You're essentially getting 4 average length films in 3 with the Nolanverse.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I'm still waiting on those reasons why Gwen's death has to happen in Film 2.

Simple. There may not be a 4. And it's confirmed this story arc will nd a trilogy. So Gwen should die by it's end. one the best aspects of her death is what peter learns from it and how he copes. That won't fit into the same film as her death

 

[Eddie Brock]

Look, I'd kill for a fourth, fifth, sixth Spider-Man movie. I just think it's more prudent to plan for trilogies. (Without writing yourself completely into a box.)

 

[Jexx]

Hmm.. they could always do the crappy thing and split the third film into two.

TASM
TASM 2
TASM 3: Part 1
TASM 3: Part 2
!!!!

(Luckily this series isn't based off books and has no logical reason for doing this)

 

[Jexx]

delete

 

[DigificWriter]

Simple. There may not be a 4. And it's confirmed this story arc will nd a trilogy. So Gwen should die by it's end. one the best aspects of her death is what peter learns from it and how he copes. That won't fit into the same film as her death

Umm, unless there's some written-in-stone unbreakable storytelling rule that I don't know about that says 'If you're doing a trilogy you must have the second installment end with a tragic event and deal with the fallout of said event in the third film', my question remains unanswered.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Look, I'd kill for a fourth, fifth, sixth Spider-Man movie. I just think it's more prudent to plan for trilogies. (Without writing yourself completely into a box.)

It also is the easiest way to map out a story arch because it has an obvious beginning middle and end.

The goblin legacy and symbiote saga are probably the best adaptable to that because of they're rich history that needs correctly established

Example....

Movie 1: establish Gwen and peter, kill of George, hunt at goblin

Movie 2: Norman becomes the green goblin, kills Gwen

Movie 3: Norman is defeated, peter copes, seeds are planted for MJ and himself

4: black suit

5: suit turns peter bad

6: venom

yes other villains and alot more would happen in those films, I just listed the overall theme and arc of two trilogies. And many of what I listed needs a whole film to flesh it out

 

[Jexx]

Hmm.. yea..

aren't both The Green Goblin and Venom considered to be the main villains of Spider-Man?

I dunno, I just know that one of the people I talk to a lot at school thought that Venom was Peter's arch-nemesis, so yea.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Umm, unless there's some written-in-stone unbreakable storytelling rule that I don't know about that says 'If you're doing a trilogy you must have the second installment end with a tragic event and deal with the fallout of said event in the third film', my question remains unanswered.

Dude.... Your question has been answered many times in this thread.... It's popular opinion there's no stone cold factual black and white answer anyone can give you. Just there preference and opinion. Someone even saying "because I want the first trilogy to end on a high note" should be good enough. But it's not.... And it's beginning to come off like you're trolling....

 

[Eddie Brock]

Hmm.. yea..

aren't both The Green Goblin and Venom considered to be the main villains of Spider-Man?

I dunno, I just know that one of the people I talk to a lot at school thought that Venom was Peter's arch-nemesis, so yea.

Venom is a contender for third behind GG and Octavius.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Hmm.. yea..

aren't both The Green Goblin and Venom considered to be the main villains of Spider-Man?

I dunno, I just know that one of the people I talk to a lot at school thought that Venom was Peter's arch-nemesis, so yea.

green goblin, ock, and venom are all pretty much considered his top 3, though some hate venom alot due to him being hyped for so long and really hasn't been much of a villain since his first arc. But that arc did leave a big mark on his mythos

 

[Jexx]

Well.. Doc Ock doesn't really seem big enough to get his own trilogy of Spider-Man movies. So yea, your theory would make sense.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Venom is a contender for third behind GG and Octavius.

Correct. Though other than having a sinister six story arch for a trilogy... I really can't think of a ock story that would need three films to tell. He's a top villain but his premise and setup is pretty basic unlike venom and the goblin

 

[Eddie Brock]

green goblin, ock, and venom are all pretty much considered his top 3, though some hate venom alot due to him being hyped for so long and really hasn't been much of a villain since his first arc. But that arc did leave a big mark on his mythos

As a self-proclaimed Venom fan (could you tell? ), I believe a well-done Venom runs his course as a villain the moment that Peter defeats him. Venom is a living personification of Peter's faults, of Peter's dark side. It's the final hurdle that Peter has to overcome in the symbiote saga, an externalization of all his doubts and fears about himself. Once he can stand up to Venom and defeat him, there's no real reason for Venom to exist anymore.

 

[DigificWriter]

You can't state preference and opinion as fact, which is what's been happening with this whole Gwen's death thing.

Wanting something to happen is not the same as saying 'This is how it's * GOING * to happen' or 'This is the only way it * CAN * happen.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Ocks just basically got his origin, trying to Mary aunt may, sinister six, master planner (killing Betty's brother), killing captain Stacy, nearly killing black cat, fighting hammer head and his ghost...... and funeral for an octopus

 

[Jexx]

Actually, if they do make a Venom movie.. and it crosses over into The Amazing spider-man, I wonder how it would work.

 

[Eddie Brock]

Actually, if they do make a Venom movie.. and it crosses over into The Amazing spider-man, I wonder how it would work.

I wouldn't get your hopes up. That Venom movie is going to remain in pre-production Hell for a long time.