The Amazing Spider-Man When and how should Gwen Stacy die?

[Steve Sanders]

I did read the whole post.
One of the reasons Gwen did die is because people almost completly preferred the more fun MJ over Gwen, even many of the writers, including Stan.

By ignoring Captain Stacy and staying close to Gwen, he's being irresponsible. It's character growth. He and others suffer because he's being selfish, so in return he grows up and is more responsible. A good writer would then have Peter being much more careful about his lovelife in the sequels.
Peter didn't become the incredibly selfless person he is in the comics only because of Uncle Ben. He made mistakes, suffered and learned from them. His growth to a real hero is why we love him

again you IGNORE that he was responsible back then at that point and he is just being a jerk by ignoring capt stacy now.why anybody could like a jerk like that who causes the death of someone cause he ignored her fathers wishes for his own selfish desires is beyond me. so kill off nice sweet gwendy,something that made many loyal readers burn their comics after that for $lut mary jane.great logic there.

really I have hard time believing that you did read the whole thing like you said because you keep ignoring points and not addressing the entire post.just parts of it. so go and date someone again and put their life in danger AGAIN for your own selfish needs again.yeah thats really smart.

 

[TheHeatKitchen]

Midway through the third film, just like in the comics, still leave the cause unknown... Spider-Man defeats Green Goblin later, comes to terms with his responsibility, still hurt but accepting of Gwen's death, introduce MJ as a friend for him to cope with, end the movie and trilogy.

 

[the.wolf]

I just hope Peter come to his senses and keeps his promise.

Or at least Gwen stays away from him, knowing her dad's dying breath was making sure she would be fine.

I just want that promise being upheld somehow.

To break a promise to a dying man? Yikes. Just... Yikes.

 

[Jexx]

Love overcomes death.

To forbid your daughter from being with the one which she loves, as your last dying wish? Yikes. Just... yikes.

 

[the.wolf]

Love overcomes death.

To forbid your daughter from being with the one which she loves, as your last dying wish? Yikes. Just... yikes.

Ah. Touché, Jexx. Touché.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Teenagers are not going to stop seeing someone they deeply love for any reason.

When you're a teenager you feel like the entire universe will collapse if you don't continue a passionate romance.

Blame it on the hormones but that's just how they are. I think Shakespeare wrote a little something about this.

 

[Jexx]

Romeo and Juliet.

 

[WarriorDreamer]

Love overcomes death.

To forbid your daughter from being with the one which she loves, as your last dying wish? Yikes. Just... yikes.

He doesn't want Gwen dead. I understand that. It isn't really up to Peter to decide whether or not Gwen should be in his life or not. Peter as a character is full of respect for others and good morality. Him totally dis-respecting her fathers wish by still seeing her when he is a crime-fighter and knows that she could be put in danger would not endear him to the audience.

The people saying Peter should date Gwen in movies 2 and 3 and she should never die clearly do not know the Spider-Man/ Peter Parker character. He is not a playboy and it is not the 'Peter and Gwen' show either.

What I am saying, it like the Clark/Lana/Lois triangle in Smallville Peter should think he can be with Gwen, but something should obviously happen to her which makes them split up or not be a part of each others lives. You do not need to only introduce Mary Jane after Gwen is dead. Mary Jane doesn't need to have full prominance but she can be a background character if need be.

She just ups her game when she realises she is needed in Peter's life. Which is at least 3/4 movies down the road.

 

[Jexx]

Is Peter supposed to be endeared to the audience?

I mean, what if Webb doesn't even want everyone to want Peter to win? They want him to feel relatable, yes... but.. isn't everyone in the world disliked by some and liked by others?

The character of Peter in this movie is polarizing, some people don't like him, some people do. Like someone in real life?

I dunno.. it could be a case of a bad script, or it could be a case of making a character truly human.

 

[Gwendolyn Stacy]

I just hope Peter come to his senses and keeps his promise.

Or at least Gwen stays away from him, knowing her dad's dying breath was making sure she would be fine.

I just want that promise being upheld somehow.

To break a promise to a dying man? Yikes. Just... Yikes.

I'm pretty sure he never actually promised he would stay away from Gwen. If I remember correctly, he didn't even shake his head or anything. Besides, I do not want to see Peter avoid Gwen for most of the second movie. I wanna see more of her in the sequel, not less. Also, I think the ending showed that Peter wasn't going to stay away from her.

 

[©KAW]

Who the hell would stay away from that tight little hiney? She's beautiful, she shares Peter's interest, she's good for him, they have great chemistry together and dare I say that I actually enjoyed their performance as a couple.

 

[BestGirl]

It's unfortunate that Gwen will almost certainly be killed in the sequel. Webb's going to have to look long and hard for an MJ who will have as much chemistry with Garfield as Stone did.

 

[Jexx]

Or a Black Cat..

 

[captain canuck]

I went with the minority vote; kill her in the 3rd film different from the comics

And I am a comic reader, in fact i just read her death in the Ultimate SM comics (which was via carnage)

I liked her far better than Mary Jane in the previous series, she wasn't a useless danzel in distress, she was intelligent and actually helps Peter unlike MJ whom practically became a villain to him. So I want her to last the entire next film.

I'd prefer not to see the green goblin bridge sequence. For one thing we already saw a similar scene in the first Raimi film (but with MJ living) but also it takes away the shock value if we see it coming. Now I do want to see a villain with no sympathy that we want Peter to beat to a pulp. The first Norman Osborn and Otto Octavius as well as Curt Connors in this film were men Peter admired. Flint Marko should have been a badass but they made him sympathetic and Eddie Brock was underused.


I'm hoping they make the Green Goblin or whichever villain kills Gwen a truly evil person and a villain we root against.

 

[Jexx]

Canuck, we wouldn't have shock value, but the audience would. They think that Spider-Man can save people falling from bridges, he has before.

 

[©KAW]

Or a Black Cat..

You mean a Catwoman ripoff. The original tw@t is in The Dark Knight Rises, and I don't even want to see her in that flick. Useless character, even more useless when you're only a replica of her. NO BLACK CAT!

 

[Jexx]

...k

 

[spideyboy_1111]

You mean a Catwoman ripoff. The original tw@t is in The Dark Knight Rises, and I don't even want to see her in that flick. Useless character, even more useless when you're only a replica of her. NO BLACK CAT!

You do know she was actually suppose to be a spider-woman villain before the creator was moved to spidey right? Just because she's a car burglar and fits the cat motif does not make her a ripoff.... Patsy walker aka hellcat even predated black cat by 30 years...

Might as well call spidey a Batman/superman hybrid ripoff too

These two are a very interesting pair. I was actually very surprised at what I learned from this. Black Cat and Catwoman, it would seem, have everything in common. Being that Catwoman's first appearance predates Black Cat by almost forty years, and they are virtually the same character by today's standards, by proxy you would think that Black Cat is a complete rip off of Catwoman. This is actually a HUGE misconception. Let me explain. Back in 1979, Marv Wolfman was looking for a new villain for Spider-Man. He decided to base his creation off of an old Tex Avery cartoon called "Bad Luck Blackie". Bad Luck Blackie was a black cat that brought misfortune to anyone that was close in proximity. Black Cat is a cat burglar in the Marvel universe. She wears very low cut, tight leather costumes, a mask, and has claws at the tips of her fingers on her gloves. She is very nimble and agile, which helps her in her cat burglaries. She also has a love interest in Spider-Man.*At first glance, this sounds almost exactly like Selina Kyle's Catwoman. However, at that time in Batman comics, Catwoman was only known as "The Cat" and she was nothing more than a pickpocket in a green dress with no mask. It was not until 1987 in Frank Miller's Batman: Year One, almost a decade AFTER Black Cat's appearance in comics, that Catwoman became the tight leather and mask wearing, clawed cat burglar that we know her as today. So if either of these characters are guilty of copying the other, one would have to say its Catwoman that is the copy-CAT. (See what I did there, again? I'm on a roll!) Mostly because at the time that Black Cat was created, she had almost no resemblance to the Catwoman in comics at that time. Presently both characters are identical. They are both high profile cat burglars that operate in tight leather, are extremely agile, and they are both love interests in their respective do-gooders lives. Pretty interesting, would you not agree?*

^from the site we can't link to

 

[Joe_Kickass]

Well, good news is I found a bootleg TASM video online (I already saw it in theaters in IMAX 3D, but I don't have the money to see it even in regular). But the bad news is that the guy who uploaded it for some strange reason decided to speed it up by 10% so the movie now clocks in at an hour and a half.
*Sigh*.

 

[Jexx]

Let me guess, we can't link to **************s.com?

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Let me guess, we can't link to **************s.com?

Yup

 

[FigsNFilms]

It's actually going to be really emotional to see her die (if she does) ... Emma Stone is so likable, and her chemistry with Garfield is palpable. And considering they won't switch actresses in the role, seeing her bite the dust will be jarring. Unlike Rachel in TDK who I was itching to see go, and was glad it tormented the main protagonist because she was a plot device from the start and originally with a horrible, un-likeable actress.

Who kills Gwen Stacy in the comics? Anyone have a picture of it? Is it particularly gruesome kill? Was it innovative at the time when they killed her off?

 

[Jexx]

Spider-Man kills Gwen Stacy.

Green Goblin throws her off the top of a bridge, Spidey catches her with his web by her legs; her neck snaps because of the inertia.

Innovative? Yes, there's a reason why killing off a protagonist's love interest as a way to impact them emotionally is called the Gwen Stacy syndrome.

 

[FigsNFilms]

Spider-Man kills Gwen Stacy.

Green Goblin throws her off the top of a bridge, Spidey catches her with his web by her legs; her neck snaps because of the inertia.

Innovative? Yes, there's a reason why killing off a protagonist's love interest as a way to impact them emotionally is called the Gwen Stacy syndrome.

Ohhh even juicier. Spider-Man inadvertently kills (his at the time) greatest love?

Wow, that has NEVER been done before either. The protagonist killing the love interest.

All that internal angst and guilt. Could cause for GREAT cinematic potential. I hope they do it.

Thanks for the info, my dude.

 

[Web face]

Ohhh even juicier. Spider-Man inadvertently kills (his at the time) greatest love?

Wow, that has NEVER been done before either. The protagonist killing the love interest.

All that internal angst and guilt. Could cause for GREAT cinematic potential. I hope they do it.

Thanks for the info, my dude.

I might be getting ahead of myself here, but if they nail the build up to that moment, make the scene almost exactly like the comics, and nail the emotional drama and make the audience really feel what Peter is feeling, I think the sequel could reach TDK levels of awesomeness. Again, I am probably just thinking too much lol.
Also, it would be pretty cool if they have Mysterio as a villain in the third movie and give Peter hallucinations of Gwen/Uncle Ben/or possibly his parents and have everything that Peter has ever felt about those people/events exposed to the audience.