The Avengers Where they have gone wrong with the avengers project so far

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I want me some NAHTSEES ! :awesome:
 
He's getting his own movie, most likely with Janet in it too.

I'm honestly not sure why they wouldn't introduce him in Avengers first but oh well.

Good to hear that, I also wonder why they can't introduce them in this film.
 
First off, Whedon's writing is hardly "soso". What are you even basing that on?


Like was said above, whether you believe it or not Whedon rewrote the entire script.

Buffy, Angel, Doll House and all of his tv projects. Whedon has delivered good tv but films??? I can't say that I was impressed with Serenity at all. I like the guy and like I said he's done pretty decent tv but nothing that has sold me that he is gonna knock the ball outta the park with the Avengers. I've said before with Whedon is that he'll more then likely deliver a film that won't suck but I'm not expecting greatness and it should be greatness and epic if you gonna pull the Avengers together. The same goes for a JLA film if one is ever made.
 
Marvel should've done Fing Fang Foom when they had the chance. Destroying Tokio AFTER 3/11 will probably be considered bad taste
 
Another place they went wrong is with the line up. I love all the characters but they really need some members with impressive powers or one that make for good fx. Super strength is cool in all but not impressive. Thor looks to be the only one that's probably gonna make for cool fx. They really shouldve gotten the Scarlett Witch in there. If u gonna bring in the Skrulls if it's to be believed, then they are introducing a cosmic element. It would seem like Captain Marvel and Quasar would be a no brainer. I know they aren't founding members but if Black Widow is in the mix then why not some members that have cool powers? At least throw an eternal on the team. I'm just ranting but they really need some more characters with outlandish powers cause right now it's basically Hulk and Thor that have the powers.
 
Buffy, Angel, Doll House and all of his tv projects. Whedon has delivered good tv but films??? I can't say that I was impressed with Serenity at all. I like the guy and like I said he's done pretty decent tv but nothing that has sold me that he is gonna knock the ball outta the park with the Avengers. I've said before with Whedon is that he'll more then likely deliver a film that won't suck but I'm not expecting greatness and it should be greatness and epic if you gonna pull the Avengers together. The same goes for a JLA film if one is ever made.


I'll admit the final product has been hit or miss and I think questioning him as a director is fair, but even for his "misses" the writing was great.

If you didn't like Serenity then I don't know what to tell you. We just have vastly different ideas of "good writing".

Everyones different though.

I can agree that they are taking a chance on him as a director for such a large project.
 
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I'll admit the final product has been hit or miss and I think questioning him as a director is fair, but even for his "misses" the writing was great.

If you didn't like Serenity then I don't know what to tell you. We just have vastly different ideas of "good writing".

Everyones different though.

I can agree that they are taking a chance on him as a director for such a large project.

Well sir you have misinterpreted my posts. I didn't say that Whedon was an awful writer or made sucky shows. I've enjoyed both Buffy and Angel, never got into the others although I e seen some episodes. The guy made entertaining tv. Serenity wasn't a bad movie, all I said was that I wasn't impressed. It felt very TVish. I know it's easy to think I'm against Whedon based on my complaints but I like The guy but for the Avengers I don't see what he's done to show that he's gonna do a good Avengers flick. As for his directing? I'm just gonna hope for the best but I'm not sold.
 
Well sir you have misinterpreted my posts. I didn't say that Whedon was an awful writer or made sucky shows. I've enjoyed both Buffy and Angel, never got into the others although I e seen some episodes. The guy made entertaining tv. Serenity wasn't a bad movie, all I said was that I wasn't impressed. It felt very TVish. I know it's easy to think I'm against Whedon based on my complaints but I like The guy but for the Avengers I don't see what he's done to show that he's gonna do a good Avengers flick. As for his directing? I'm just gonna hope for the best but I'm not sold.
I would think it looks TVish mostly because of the budget
 
Another place they went wrong is with the line up. I love all the characters but they really need some members with impressive powers or one that make for good fx. Super strength is cool in all but not impressive. Thor looks to be the only one that's probably gonna make for cool fx. They really shouldve gotten the Scarlett Witch in there. If u gonna bring in the Skrulls if it's to be believed, then they are introducing a cosmic element. It would seem like Captain Marvel and Quasar would be a no brainer. I know they aren't founding members but if Black Widow is in the mix then why not some members that have cool powers? At least throw an eternal on the team. I'm just ranting but they really need some more characters with outlandish powers cause right now it's basically Hulk and Thor that have the powers.

You're forgetting Iron Man, he has missles, repulsor beams, super strength, lasers, flares etc.

[YT]http://youtu.be/bVwZcv-MaWw[/YT]
 
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We've yet to see how they are going to approach Cap's shield-slinging fx-wise as well. Might just turn out to be the most visually impressive element that we get, who knows?
 
Marvel should've done Fing Fang Foom when they had the chance. Destroying Tokio AFTER 3/11 will probably be considered bad taste

:huh:

FFF's ship crash landed in China. He mainly terrorizes New York or China.


They only time he's ever been in Japan, that I recall, is when he fought Godzilla in an old cross over comic. (that I have been searching for on E-Bay for the last couple of years)
 
We've yet to see how they are going to approach Cap's shield-slinging fx-wise as well. Might just turn out to be the most visually impressive element that we get, who knows?

If done right, yep; which brings me back to mind the lines: "When Captain America throws his mighty shield/All those who chose to oppose his shield must yield!" etc.

:woot:
 
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You're forgetting Iron Man, he has missles, repulsor beams, super strength, lasers, flares etc.

[YT]http://youtu.be/bVwZcv-MaWw[/YT]

I guess but it's not really super powers. That's why I left him out.
 
I hear what you're saying regarding super powers and lost opportunities visually, but I'm glad they're sticking to the original core group (more or less), especially for the first movie. For the sequel, I'd love for them to expand to some of the others ... Pym, Wasp, Vision, Scarlett Witch, Quicksilver, etc.

I think the combination of Thor, Iron Man and the Hulk alone will be able to provide enough "wow" moments visually.
 
We've yet to see how they are going to approach Cap's shield-slinging fx-wise as well. Might just turn out to be the most visually impressive element that we get, who knows?

That's a BIG "might" since this is a film that will most likely have atleast one "thunder storm", "ground slam", or "uni beam". (I'm not trying dIscrediting Cap at all).

I know those attacks aren't guaranteed to be in the film, but there's a huge chance that they will be.

I hear what you're saying regarding super powers and lost opportunities visually, but I'm glad they're sticking to the original core group (more or less), especially for the first movie.

I think the combination of Thor, Iron Man and the Hulk alone will be able to provide enough "wow" moments visually.

I agree 100%
 
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The shield throw is king. It may not be the flashiest but it could well be the most impressive.
 
Could be, but I don't see how it would be all that different from a "hammer throw" and I've never been crazy about those either.

I will definately keep an open mind about it, but I don't think it will be the most impressive.
 
The shield throw is king. It may not be the flashiest but it could well be the most impressive.

Depends on how its done and all that in regards to how it comes off on screen but the geek in me wants to see one of them 'old-school ricochet throws' - y'know, where Cap's in a room, throws the shield and it hits all the walls like a pinball, taking out about 5 bad guys along the way before it returns to his hand.

:awesome:
 
Depends on how its done and all that in regards to how it comes off on screen but the geek in me wants to see one of them 'old-school ricochet throws' - y'know, where Cap's in a room, throws the shield and it hits all the walls like a pinball, taking out about 5 bad guys along the way before it returns to his hand.

:awesome:

That isn't too "old school, that would be pretty cool actually. I'm sure Cap is gonna do something along those lines in CFA or The Avengers :cool:.
 
Marvel should've done Fing Fang Foom when they had the chance. Destroying Tokio AFTER 3/11 will probably be considered bad taste
He could just as easily destroy New York. Though, I doubt he had a chance of appearing in a movie anytime soon.
 
I hear what you're saying regarding super powers and lost opportunities visually, but I'm glad they're sticking to the original core group (more or less), especially for the first movie. For the sequel, I'd love for them to expand to some of the others ... Pym, Wasp, Vision, Scarlett Witch, Quicksilver, etc.

I think the combination of Thor, Iron Man and the Hulk alone will be able to provide enough "wow" moments visually.

I guess but Im not quite sure how Hawkeye and Black Widow are going to be able to deal with Skrulls. I'm just not sure about this movie as of yet. If u gonna bring in the cosmic stuff again it would seem like a no brainer to have Captain Marvel on board at least, especially if the skrulls are involved. I'm all for the original line up too. I think the Pyms should be there but they arent. I wouldve used Cap Marvel and Ms Marvel before Hawkeye and BW.
 
For some reason I'm glad they're using Black Widow and Hawkeye instead of Captain Marvel and Ms. Marvel. I would've rather seen Hank and Janet as members, but BW and Hawkeye are the next best thing imo.

You already have Thor, Hulk, and Iron Man...they don't want to make the Avengers "too powerful" considering it's their first film.
 
The shield throw is king. It may not be the flashiest but it could well be the most impressive.

"Who are you?"

"I'm Thor, the god of thunder. I wield one of the most powerful weapons in all of existence. I'm immortal and I can command the very storm, itself."

*audience yawns*

"I can throw a shield."

*the audience's heads explode from sheer amazement*

Depends on how its done and all that in regards to how it comes off on screen but the geek in me wants to see one of them 'old-school ricochet throws' - y'know, where Cap's in a room, throws the shield and it hits all the walls like a pinball, taking out about 5 bad guys along the way before it returns to his hand.

If done well, this would be cool...like underwear-changing cool.
 

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