Where would you take the Hulk franchise after Avengers?

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What would you do with it?

Would you keep the cast they have, what changes would you make?

Additional casting/director options?


For me:


I would ditch the military vs Hulk for now since that has been done plus Hulk is probably a world-wide hero thanks to the Avengers.

I would have Doc Samson just show up, no back story or anything kind of like Bardem in No Country For Old Men. Just an insanely ripped dude with long green hair. And he infiltrates SHIELD and steals some of their Hulkbuster tech with easy. Treating their guards (and a comically over-matched Coulson) like they are mall-cops.

Bruce Banner now is confident in the Hulk and even a bit cocky (channeling his Ang Lee's "I think I like it" line) the military sends him after a mysterious terrorist attack with weapons and a futuristic Humanoids. Hulk easily helps the military to conquest. Banner has developed a gamma-ray device to help him transform at will when needed. Things with he and Betty are going well.

SHIELD catches up with Banner and Ross to explain the situation and Ross says she knows Samson, with Bruce says he went to him as his psychiatrist. Bruce gets her to promise him she won't try and stop him herself. Samson visits Ross later to try and win her back, Ross thinks he is acting funny, not like himself. but SHIELD has been successfully monitoring the situation and a big battle breaks out until finnally Hulk arrives and they capture Samson.

While aboard the hellcarrier Samson has many talks with Ross and Banner. Ross spends most of her time with Samson trying to test him to see what has happened. Bruce is getting exceedingly jealous at the situation until he looses control and Hulks out. Before doing so Ross was able to uncover a small microchip connected to Samsons brain. She deactivated it for just enough time for Samson to tell her that while he was working with Banner they had an accident where he was exposed to some gamma-radiation. A man found out about him and took him a way to do experiments and make him stronger. He programmed him and he has no control over himself when the micro chip is activated. The chip then remotely reactivates and Betty is unable to do anything about it. She tries to tell Bruce but he doesn't really listen because he is so furious.

Bruce turns into Hulk and breaks Samson out of his cell to fight him, Samson was hoping Hulk would do it all along and steals a jet with Betty in it. Thunderbolt blames Bruce sighting "your arrogance may have lost me my daughter"

At some point it should be developed that Banner had been trying experiments to control the Hulk but actually has preferred to let the Hulk loose, but decides it's nut cutting time and he tries his experiment (leading to a scene similar to AL's Hulk where Banner and Hulk wrestle in his mind over control) then when he comes to he is Hulk and he says to Coulson "What the **** are you looking at? (probably won't say **** but it's funny to rag on Coulson)" and they send him after Samson (who SHIELD put a tracker on in case he got away) and it leads them to a futuristic military base where they are attacked by more sophisticated versions of the Humanoids scene earlier in the movie.

It is revealed that The Leader is behind the Humanoids and Doc Samson. Hulk destroys the machine controlling Samson and Samson vows to help Hulk and they go after the Leader together but he escapes before they find him. They go out and finish the battle with SHIELD saving the day etc.


Hulk: Stay with Ruffy
Betty Ross: Loved Connolly it'd be nice to get her back
Doc Samson: Someone like Michael Fassbender/Bradley Cooper/Karl Urban
Thunderbolt: Hurt was great
Leader: Possibly unseen and voice only.

Director: Del Toro would be a dream (especially for having Humanoids), Len Wiseman would be my choice also. Seems like he understands the balance a good action movie should have.

I think this movie would work if Doc Samson is superbly cast. He would walk that fine like the Rock walked in Fast Five as the anti-antagonist for our Hulks anti-hero.

Wow this got long. If you don't read all of it, I don't blame you.

He is a force of nature and actually can battle the Hulk one on one.
 
I would do something quite smart and have him cameo in other people's films with his own subplot

so you got hulk doses in iron man, hulk doses in thor, hulk doses in captain america and maybe another character.

that way you could saturise him into the concious of the movie goer without needing a 'hulk film' per say at least yet.

I know plenty would disagree with me but a non-talking hulk and his subpar rogue's gallery are not sufficient to generate a good film 99% of the time.


but if a film was to be made, i would go down samson and she-hulk squaring off against a new intepretation of the gray hulk persona, or maybe the shadow king in the hulk's body.
 
I would up the anti in anti-hero first off. Let Hulk be a monster. I'd make him a full character, with an actor ala Avatar and lines and everything. I'd continue the theme with the idea of Hulk 'growing up' everytime he transforms and becoming less child-like, and more melancholy. Of course, Bruce would have 'control' at this point, and then realize he doesn't have control, even though he's in the driver's seat, and then we'd have that conflict between the two, it could be shown in a sort of mindscape situation, or convulsions as the hulk shifts back and forth between banner and hulk.

As for villains, Leader would be the primary villain, obsessed with GammaTech or whatever. He would have all kinds of great experiments on people and animals, the U-Foes would be the ones that make it to the end of the movie. Meanwhile, Hulk would meet up again with his cousin Jennifer, and we'd have that whole blood transfusion thing, and that would culminate at the end of the movie with She-Hulk's emergence. Until then, Jennifer would kind of be the sidekick as they run from Leader and his monsters.

The whole point of the movie, showing Hulk as a primal and uncontrollable monster would be wrapped up into the plot as Leader's goal, trying to show that only he can control it, only he can deal with the Hulk, not SHIELD, not anyone. The resolution of course would be that Hulk controls himself, turning Hulk into a hero, so to speak, who chooses to do the right thing, which happens to be, dismantle the person who makes him the angriest.

"Hulk Coming." Before punching out Leader's camera.

There are a number of Hulk foes that fall into the gamma/cyborg category that make perfect sense for Leader to have possession/control of. The Early-movie villain could/would be Hulk himself, and then the footsoldiers cause problems as Banner and Leader match wits. Perhaps in the enemy quarters Leader even displays Banner's movements with chess pieces, or talks about it in chess terms. When they meet face to face, it's supposed to be a big moment.

After that, I really don't see a third Hulk movie possible, perhaps there's room for Absorbing Man via asgardian origins, or the Wrecking Crew could be taken from Thor's gallery via asgardian tech, making TIH 2 a spinoff of Avengers.

-shrug-
 
I would do something quite smart and have him cameo in other people's films with his own subplot

so you got hulk doses in iron man, hulk doses in thor, hulk doses in captain america and maybe another character.

that way you could saturise him into the concious of the movie goer without needing a 'hulk film' per say at least yet.

I know plenty would disagree with me but a non-talking hulk and his subpar rogue's gallery are not sufficient to generate a good film 99% of the time.


but if a film was to be made, i would go down samson and she-hulk squaring off against a new intepretation of the gray hulk persona, or maybe the shadow king in the hulk's body.


Hulk has to start talking more in movies, absolutely
 
I'll wait & see the reaction for Hulk from the audience in the Avengers, but after 2 somewhat disappointing movies, if I were Marvel I'd keep him in the Avengers & its sequels instead of another attempt at a solo movie.
 
the problem is that they keep making the same mistakes, each time they go with reinvention and keep up going down the same line

they don't actually realise the tv series was actually pretty bad and shuldn't be any template for a hulk(maybe a bruce banner in sorts but definitely not a hulk).
 
Let's see what they do with the upcoming TV show first. Frankly with the other failed movies they should just wait it out as there' no rush. Maybe do something Warner Bros didn't have the guts to do with Smallville, build the tv show into something worthwhile and then in a few years bring the actors of the tv show to the big screen. It wouldn't be "oh let's just do another Hulk movie with another actor!" like it happened with Incredible Hulk(basically what a three years remake between movies?) with people having no connection with it but it would be a World that people would have grown to like with people that you see every week so it would be a much morea natural growth to have then these people transported back to another place, to the big screen after a few years spent in people's living room.
 
the problem is that they keep making the same mistakes, each time they go with reinvention and keep up going down the same line

they don't actually realise the tv series was actually pretty bad and shuldn't be any template for a hulk(maybe a bruce banner in sorts but definitely not a hulk).


I'm way way to young to have been watching tv when TIH was on, but from what I have seen it blows my mind how loyal filmmakers, comic book guys, and actors are too that series.
 
i think nostalgia definitely plays a part and the good always outshines the bad.

same goes with btas, i could probably pick out ten really great eps and the rest are meh., yet history will always have people showing that the collection was great.
 
I wish the movies were more like the series. What we call 'TV series influences' is merely a couple of nods to it.
 
i wish the movies were more like the 90s cartoon (first season), i thought that was incredible.

the first two episodes and the last three as a collective 5 hour bit are simply FANTASTIC and capture the mood so well.
 
i wish the movies were more like the 90s cartoon (first season), i thought that was incredible.

the first two episodes and the last three as a collective 5 hour bit are simply FANTASTIC and capture the mood so well.

And they are. Much much more than like the TV series.

I don't see Banner getting involved with people and helping them with personal issues as in the TV series.
 
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I want TIH II with Leader.

I want the Hulks great power to seem futile as Leader just out thinks him. In the end i'd like to see Banner defeat him after a huge fight. Afterwards i'd like to see the two personalities merge a little more. Banner and Hulk fully realize they are stronger together, as allies.

I'd like to see Banner take more control and Hulk get smarter and more talkative each movie.
 
And they are. Much much more than like the TV series.

I don't see Banner getting involved with people and helping them with personal issues as in the TV series.
the 90s cartoon is leaps and bounds better than what we got in any of the films. banner's tomernt of carrying the hulk for one is nothing but pure desperation, he's a completely broken man.
 
the 90s cartoon is leaps and bounds better than what we got in any of the films. banner's tomernt of carrying the hulk for one is nothing but pure desperation, he's a completely broken man.

I didn't say the movies were better. I said that the movies were much closer to the 90's cartoons than to the TV series.
 
Let's see what they do with the upcoming TV show first. Frankly with the other failed movies they should just wait it out as there' no rush. Maybe do something Warner Bros didn't have the guts to do with Smallville, build the tv show into something worthwhile and then in a few years bring the actors of the tv show to the big screen. It wouldn't be "oh let's just do another Hulk movie with another actor!" like it happened with Incredible Hulk(basically what a three years remake between movies?) with people having no connection with it but it would be a World that people would have grown to like with people that you see every week so it would be a much morea natural growth to have then these people transported back to another place, to the big screen after a few years spent in people's living room.

I hope TIH isn't like Smallville. That would mean years of just seeing the man before he becomes the monster. We'd get Bruce Banner going round in a green jacket (as a nod to the monster he'll later become) and calling himself "The Smudge". Then when he finally becomes the Hulk in the very last episode, all we'll see is a head shot of him and nothing from the neck down. It would be like chatting to the Hulk on Skype, which is what Tom Welling's Superman was like.
 
more monsters, and bring in Ross as the Red Hulk..
 
I think they need to understand their audience too.

I'd say at this point, a new Hulk movie (assuming everything goes well with Avengers) probably has a max total gross of 350-400 million (considering neither of the previous films grossed that, i'd say that is very generous).

I'd try and shoot for a budget of around 125 to make sure the film is successful.
 
I think the Leader is an obvious choice for the main villain, but Hulk should also have a physical threat as well. Maybe Absorbing Man? And for real this time, not the semi-Absorbing Man that we got in Ang Lee's movie.

I'd also like to see them introduce the Hulkbusters.
 
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'Nuff said.
 
I would hand the sequel to David Eick and Guillermo del Toro, with del Toro directing. They've already been working on the Hulk TV series, but have admitted finding it difficult to do the Hulk on a TV budget. It doesn't do Marvel any favours to have competing live-action versions of the characters either so - if they're game - why not just put them on the sequel?
 
I'd say where to go with the Hulk depends on where The Avengers leaves off. They need to play up the unpredictable monster role with The Avengers recognizing the potential threat the Hulk presents. The stage is obviously set for The Leader to take on the Hulk so that could be the main plot of the next movie but it could happen in such a way that the public would perceive the Hulk as an even greater threat. He could be set up by the Leader to cause some major disaster. After defeating the Leader the weakened Hulk could be apprehended by The Avengers and ... launched into space. Leading into Planet Hulk and possibly the best Hulk story ever. Isn't that what Hulk fans would want to see?
 

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