BvS Which Green Lantern should be used? - Part 1

[KillerWolf]

If you don't like Alan Moore, you don't really have an appreciation of the medium, in my opinion.

I so second this.

And I like both his work and his "other work"...

 

[bluerayer]

I have not actually read Alan Moores Swamp Thing yet, only his Superman story, V for Vendetta and Watchmen. I only know of 70s Swamp Thing. And to bring this back on topic again, Hal Jordan is the green lantern i grew up with in the 70s, when they printed his adventures with Green Arrow over here.(GL or GA didnt have their own comics here though, they were included in Batmans own comic, who did have his own) but im probably more familiar with John Stewart from the JL show. Im waiting to see if GL appears on Arrow.

Edit: Oh, and i like Alan Moores work too.

 

[dario2739]

I think the Flash is pretty well-known all around, but yeah, I remember when the GL movie came out, a lot of people had him confused with the Green Hornet (it didn't help that GH also had a movie that year).

The thing is, I love GL (Hal, John, Kyle and everyone else) but I feel like the brand is tainted now with the GA. When I mention Green Lantern to someone who isn't a comic book fan, they tend to get this look on their face like I just farted. That's why I think that WB should hold off on GL for a while. It's a tough concept to get right on the big screen; the GL movie's failure with both critics and audiences more than proved that. WB should make the Justice League movie and figure out how to get Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman and Cyborg to work together (if that is indeed the roster) and THEN introduce GL in a sequel, once they've tackled the easier characters.

Like you I love GL, and it's a shame they made such a mess off hjs movie... wrong casting, awful CGI, poor villains, poor storyline! Sad thing is GL should have been easier to pull off than GOTG. They should have set the movie entirely on Earth showing Hal learning to use his power, the have a couple of GLs turn up at the endto take him to Oa, which would have set up a sequel.
For this movie maybe the battle of Metropolis and the reappearance of Kryptonians could be a reason for the Guardians to send a Lantern to earth - Abin Sur - thus setting up a reboot.

 

[brainchild81]

Maybe WB wants to be different?

I don't get the Han/Hal comparison. I've read a couple GL books and I don't see it.

I always like how in the JLTAS, John was the one who grounded JL. He was always saying how they were accountable for their actions and weren't above.

Ditto. I've only heard the "he's like Han" defense from Hal fans. I still don't see it. Han's awesome & Hal's the exact opposite of that, especially recently. He was an unlikeable wuss in the GL film & a total dick in JL: War. Most comic fans I've heard say it's a close translation of bad source material by Geoff. Geoff & the New 52 roster are 2 things that I don't think will work out too well for a JL flick. It'll make good money in spite of those things, but I definitely don't see them helping the film to gross as much as it can w/out them.

I have not actually read Alan Moores Swamp Thing yet, only his Superman story, V for Vendetta and Watchmen. I only know of 70s Swamp Thing. And to bring this back on topic again, Hal Jordan is the green lantern i grew up with in the 70s, when they printed his adventures with Green Arrow over here.(GL or GA didnt have their own comics here though, they were included in Batmans own comic, who did have his own) but im probably more familiar with John Stewart from the JL show. Im waiting to see if GL appears on Arrow.

Edit: Oh, and i like Alan Moores work too.

Interesting. The majority of people I encounter from outside the U.S. on SHH are either more familiar with John Stewart because of JL/JLU or don't like/just don't care about Hal. WB/DC should focus more on pleasing foreign markets too.


I've only read Moore's Watchmen. High quality book. I actually like the movie more tho. Extremely underrated film.

 

[-Arya-]

My innermost desire is for John to be included since he was the GL I grew up watching in JL/JLU. Although, having just read GL: Rebirth, I would be fine with either Kyle or Hal also.

 

[antonydelfini]

I have not actually read Alan Moores Swamp Thing yet, only his Superman story, V for Vendetta and Watchmen. I only know of 70s Swamp Thing. And to bring this back on topic again, Hal Jordan is the green lantern i grew up with in the 70s, when they printed his adventures with Green Arrow over here.(GL or GA didnt have their own comics here though, they were included in Batmans own comic, who did have his own) but im probably more familiar with John Stewart from the JL show. Im waiting to see if GL appears on Arrow.

Edit: Oh, and i like Alan Moores work too.

Man, I can see from your avatar that youre a Swamp Thig fan, please, read Moore's Saga of the Swamp Thing. It's beautiful stuff. You'll see the character in a new light.

 

[Lantern Venom]

Is that on Netflix?

I know I saw the pilot like online and I thought it was good.

Oh, it's sweet. It's the first time a Lantern really got development in a TV series. It was still accessible to kids, but we actually got to see Oa, the Corps, and the personality traits that result in characters becoming GLs. There were also a lot of characters from the other Corps that make appearances: Atrocitus, Zilius Zox, Larfleeze, Saint Walker, Brother Warth, and several more.

You must, understandably, be skipping most of my posts.

I am not going to list all of the things in existence, both physical and incorporeal, that I like. Suffice to say that there are lots of them but they do not include Hal Jordan or Geoff Johns.

Geoff Johns = awesomeness shaped like a man.

I have not actually read Alan Moores Swamp Thing yet, only his Superman story, V for Vendetta and Watchmen. I only know of 70s Swamp Thing. And to bring this back on topic again, Hal Jordan is the green lantern i grew up with in the 70s, when they printed his adventures with Green Arrow over here.(GL or GA didnt have their own comics here though, they were included in Batmans own comic, who did have his own) but im probably more familiar with John Stewart from the JL show. Im waiting to see if GL appears on Arrow.

Edit: Oh, and i like Alan Moores work too.

Man, I can see from your avatar that youre a Swamp Thig fan, please, read Moore's Saga of the Swamp Thing. It's beautiful stuff. You'll see the character in a new light.

I'm co-signing AD's statement. Moore's ST is well worth the time.

 

[Rowsdower!]

My innermost desire is for John to be included since he was the GL I grew up watching in JL/JLU. Although, having just read GL: Rebirth, I would be fine with either Kyle or Hal also.

Rebirth is fantastic. Some people around here don't like it, but it remains one of my all-time favorite comics. When Hal finally breaks free from Parallax's grip and is like, "SINESTRO. GET THE HELL AWAY FROM THEM." I think I cheered when reading it. THAT is the characterization of Hal Jordan that I think would resonate with audiences... confident, authoritative, badass. They tried to go the "lovable *****e" route with him in the GL movie because a similar approach worked for Iron Man, but it backfired.

 

[-Arya-]

Rebirth is fantastic. Some people around here don't like it, but it remains one of my all-time favorite comics. When Hal finally breaks free from Parallax's grip and is like, "SINESTRO. GET THE HELL AWAY FROM THEM." I think I cheered when reading it. THAT is the characterization of Hal Jordan that I think would resonate with audiences... confident, authoritative, badass. They tried to go the "lovable *****e" route with him in the GL movie because a similar approach worked for Iron Man, but it backfired.

Hal was great! Rebirth is my introduction to the GL comics. Initially when I started to read, it didn't look look like I'd be able to follow the story. With a such a complex mythology, a novice could easily get discouraged. Luckily Johns writing is not only accessible but very concise. I'm glad I was able to to finish it.

As far as cinematic interpretations I think all of them, even a character which I wasn't fond of (Guy), are capable of being a strong presence as Green Lantern, if written appropriately of course.

 

[Lantern Venom]

Rebirth is fantastic. Some people around here don't like it, but it remains one of my all-time favorite comics. When Hal finally breaks free from Parallax's grip and is like, "SINESTRO. GET THE HELL AWAY FROM THEM." I think I cheered when reading it. THAT is the characterization of Hal Jordan that I think would resonate with audiences... confident, authoritative, badass. They tried to go the "lovable *****e" route with him in the GL movie because a similar approach worked for Iron Man, but it backfired.

The inner monologue that led up to that was simply breathtaking, as was that moment. There were so many moments where I totally geeked out as I read that: John menacing Batman, Hal and Kyle shaking hands for the first time, and the 4 titular Lanterns functioning as a unit.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Yeah, the internal monologue there was great (I'm thinking clearly, thinking like me). And yeah, Hal meeting Kyle for the "first time" was a classic moment, as was the 4 Lanterns fighting Parallax. I loved the way Hal narrates and points out each Lantern's unique approach to ring-fighting, finally ending with himself: "For me, it's all about precision." Great stuff. Damn it, why couldn't the GL movie turn out like that?!!

 

[chamber-music]

Man, I can see from your avatar that youre a Swamp Thig fan, please, read Moore's Saga of the Swamp Thing. It's beautiful stuff. You'll see the character in a new light.

I'm co-signing AD's statement. Moore's SW is well worth the time.

Agreed

Alan Moore's Swamp Thing is great

 

[Maze]

I doubt that it will happen, but Jack gyllenhaal as Hal would be a casting coup. He is at the top of his game right now.

 

[Lantern Venom]

Yeah, the internal monologue there was great (I'm thinking clearly, thinking like me). And yeah, Hal meeting Kyle for the "first time" was a classic moment, as was the 4 Lanterns fighting Parallax. I loved the way Hal narrates and points out each Lantern's unique approach to ring-fighting, finally ending with himself: "For me, it's all about precision." Great stuff. Damn it, why couldn't the GL movie turn out like that?!!

That's an essential part of the GL mythos, and it's only gotten hints outside of the comics. The ring is an extension of the wearer's personality and creative force, not just a way to make weapons.

 

[dario2739]

I doubt that it will happen, but Jack gyllenhaal as Hal would be a casting coup. He is at the top of his game right now.

I like Gyllenhaal as an actor, but he doesn't seem like Hal to me. I always think of him as a more senior hero - like Batman, so should be of a similar age.
As a test pilot he should be self confident (not arrogant), and have a sense of humour - my pick would be Gerard Butler... he's worked with Snyder before and could carry a solo film.

 

[Bathead]

Oh, it's sweet. It's the first time a Lantern really got development in a TV series. It was still accessible to kids, but we actually got to see Oa, the Corps, and the personality traits that result in characters becoming GLs. There were also a lot of characters from the other Corps that make appearances: Atrocitus, Zilius Zox, Larfleeze, Saint Walker, Brother Warth, and several more.

A favorite bit of mine in the show was how everybody was always teasing him for wearing a mask.

 

[WBwins]

Rebooting Green Lantern
1.Make Coast City a Space city:I have often heard people whine about the earth scenes in GL movie but can you really blame them.Fact is tht Gls civilian life is earth based and important members of his civilian life like his love interest,best friend are earth based.You cant simply brush them aside as they are an important part of Gls life and neglecting them is taking away the human out of GL.As long as Green lanterns civilian life is based on earth there should be earth scenes.

Solution?Move Hls civilian life away from Earth.

Heres how Id do it .Id have Coast city be a human city in Space-to be precise a Space station.That permanently eliminates any need for earth scenes and allows Green lanterns role as a space cop and Coast city hero intersect perfectly-his coast city adventures and space adventures will blend together as being one and the same and there'd be no need to neglect his human life

Obviously Hals job as a Test-pilot would have to change.I say make him a Space pilot

2.Western Flavor:Even though many call GL a space cop,a space ranger is a more apt description of who he is.The western genre has many ranger heroes-so I think GL cld do with some inpiration from westerns.

Make Sector 2814 a lawless town with outlaws running around the place.GL is the new sherriff in town to bring this outlaws to justice.

3.Powers:Constructs are lame.There I said it.Limit Gls powers to energy,freezing beams,forcefields,flight.


So in short heres my premise.
Deep in sector 2814,is a floating space station known as Engine city.It was created by Hank henshaw as a home for humans in space.This city has frequent contact with the various alien life in neighbouringplanets.

Unfortunately sector 2814 is a lawless region,Galactic outlaws run amok here.Engine city and other Alien cities suffer b/c of this.

Oa is currently wrapped in a deep war .Only one Lantern is able to come to sector 2814 help-The Legendary Abin sur. Unfortunately he gets killed just as he arrives in the sector leading him to choose a new Lantern.

That Lantern is Hal Jordan.A Reckless,Brave,Noble Space pilot from Engine city.Its is now his job to help all the cities in Sector 2814 human or otherwise-until reinforcements form OA can save the sector

Nice premise but fitting it into MOS universe might be difficult

 

[Brian Braddock]

I'm from the U.K. and grew up with Hal [Gil Kane's Hal, in particular] so I'll go with Hal on this one.

 

[bluerayer]

Man, I can see from your avatar that youre a Swamp Thig fan, please, read Moore's Saga of the Swamp Thing. It's beautiful stuff. You'll see the character in a new light.

I'm co-signing AD's statement. Moore's ST is well worth the time.

Agreed

Alan Moore's Swamp Thing is great

Thanks for the Recommendations guys! I did some Batman sleuthing online and i have finally found a place here in Sweden that sells 6 volumes of Alan Moores Swamp Thing. (Is that all of them?) Really great site btw, for all the Swedes here on the Hype forums, they sell New 52 comics as well, im gonna see if they have any Aquaman comics. They had some Green Lantern comics on there too.

 

[Fallen Angel]

Agreed

Alan Moore's Swamp Thing is great

I'd go with that.

 

[John-An]

This mask is just PERFECTION...

 

[Rowsdower!]

Yeah. Now those traps on the other hand...

Seriously, LOOK at them. They look like their about to give birth to a Gremlin or something.

 

[LEVITIKUZ]

Does GL really need a mask?

Hehe.

 

[Rowsdower!]

LOL, is John giving Hal fans the finger there?

 

[Lantern Venom]

Does GL really need a mask?

.

Yes and no. On Earth, it certainly makes sense. The New 52 GLC began with John and Guy having employment/personal problems because everyone knew they were GLs. They admitted that wearing a mask would have been the smart move.

On the flip side, no mask opens some storytelling possibilities. Guy was out of the GLC for a short time recently, and the JL had to bring his family to the watch tower because they became targets.