BvS Which Green Lantern should be used?

[Maze]

Flash will be hispanic, say the rumor mill t:

 

[Beige Lantern]

I think there is enough diversity on the team already for Hal and Barry to be used without the team being too white. .

Rorschach... that's SO NOT THE POINT! Diversity doesn't really enter into it in and of itself. John Stewart brings an interesting character who can add things that Hal Jordan can't. But this guy thinks it would be a waste purely because he's a black guy. WTF?!

 

[WitchTrialz]

Uh, yeah, Do you?

Uhh.....yes. Well this is awkward, I'm going to leave this thread now...............Go Hokies!

 

[Maze]

Open casting:
If the best actor that shows up is white then Hal
If he is black then John.

I like your reasoning.

I wan't a Wally and a Barry for the "other" casting, and of course Wally win if a john Stewart wins

 

[Beige Lantern]

Open casting:
If the best actor that shows up is white then Hal
If he is black then John.

I'm all for that.

In general I'm all for going with the best person for the role. The case being made here is that John Stewart is the best pick for a lot of reasons and our new guy chimes in with "We already have The Black Character."

 

[Beige Lantern]

Uhh.....yes. Well this is awkward, I'm going to leave this thread now...............Go Hokies!

Blacksburg in general can suck my ass.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Rorschach... that's SO NOT THE POINT! Diversity doesn't really enter into it in and of itself. John Stewart brings an interesting character who can add things that Hal Jordan can't. But this guy thinks it would be a waste purely because he's a black guy. WTF?!

Besides diversity, what does John Stewart add that Hal Jordan can't?

 

[Maze]

Nobody for Simon Baz?

 

[Maze]

Pretty sure that Alpha flight is (sadly) right.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Nope. You're not a film studio. Diversity is driven by marketing. They need a token African-American character on the roster for the sake of drawing in that demographic. That was the reason John was included in the JL Mortal cast, because the rest were non-Blacks.

In this cast, we already have that quota fulfilled. I'll wager it's very, very unlikely they'll be introducing two new Black superheroes in this one film. It's unfortunate that things are this way, but that's the truth. We're getting Hal Jordan.

The way you word things is really blunt but I don't disagree with what you're saying. What you're saying is the harsh reality, whether Beige Lantern wants to admit it or not.

Cyborg being on the Justice League in the New 52 is a transparent marketing strategy.

It sucks to admit it, but Cyborg is probably on the team to fill that black quota. It's probably going to be the New 52 lineup.

 

[Maze]

Yup, it's obvious that they are pushing for the New 52 version.

That's the one, event in the animated movies now.

( but they have traded Aquaman for Shazam so we never know... )

 

[Beige Lantern]

Besides diversity, what does John Stewart add that Hal Jordan can't?

I think we covered this. You were there. Just jump back about 30 posts.

 

[Beige Lantern]

Alright, clarification offered and accepted. You are not being racist.

 

[113]

Okay... I didn't think I would ever again have to explain the following to anyone again, but now that you're here and wish to stay - not just on SHH but any civilized group of human beings - let me break this down for you.

Seeking diversity is something you do continuously. You don't fill your quota then say "We're set! Let's go back to white dudes!" You certainly don't say "Man, we've got the perfect actor for John Stewart and what's looking like a great fit for this movie, but we already have one black guy so that won't fly." You seek diversity because it makes for a better cast and a fairer company, not out of some begrudging acquiescence to the PC crowd. You act like it would be a shame if we ended up with more minorities than the national average.

Your premise that John Stewart brings nothing to the table is challenged by the past two pages of this thread. If you have something specific they have said that you wish to counter, please offer it. Otherwise you're coming in here with blanket generic statement to make an arguably racist remark as your very first post.

Well said sir, well said

 

[Rorschach2012]

I think we covered this. You were there. Just jump back about 30 posts.

How about no? Quote it. Post it. Maybe I'll respond.

Snyder has done a great job with diversity so far. But if we get two more white guys on the team, I'm sure people are going to ***** and moan.... and the term "racist" will be thrown around even more lightly than it is already..

But I mean, already the Justice League has more diversity than The Avengers. The only black guy wasn't even really part of the team.

John may be the best way to go if you want to completely avoid complaints about diversity.

 

[Richard Grayson]

I agree with what Beige Lantern. It's a bit strange how so many people buy into the "one black person per movie" trope. I hope that they take a note from Cap2 and can put two high profile black characters in the same movie

 

[the last son]

Okay... I didn't think I would ever again have to explain the following to anyone again, but now that you're here and wish to stay - not just on SHH but any civilized group of human beings - let me break this down for you.

Seeking diversity is something you do continuously. You don't fill your quota then say "We're set! Let's go back to white dudes!" You certainly don't say "Man, we've got the perfect actor for John Stewart and what's looking like a great fit for this movie, but we already have one black guy so that won't fly." You seek diversity because it makes for a better cast and a fairer company, not out of some begrudging acquiescence to the PC crowd. You act like it would be a shame if we ended up with more minorities than the national average.

Your premise that John Stewart brings nothing to the table is challenged by the past two pages of this thread. If you have something specific they have said that you wish to counter, please offer it. Otherwise you're coming in here with blanket generic statement to make an arguably racist remark as your very first post.

Agree 100 percent.

 

[the last son]

I could see if Hal was interesting, but he's not

 

[Rorschach2012]

Other than diversity, I don't think John Stewart brings anything to the table that Hal Jordan doesn't.

Maybe you prefer John Stewart's personality, but his origin, supporting cast, personal villains, and acts pale in comparison to Hal.. If WB wants John Stewart to work, fine, that's awesome, he can work. Play him the way he was in Justice League TAS and combine him with Hal and THEN he will work.

 

[LoganGambit87]

Other than diversity, I don't think John Stewart brings anything to the table that Hal Jordan doesn't.

Maybe you prefer John Stewart's personality, but his origin, supporting cast, personal villains, and acts pale in comparison to Hal.. If WB wants John Stewart to work, fine, that's awesome, he can work. Play him the way he was in Justice League TAS and combine him with Hal and THEN he will work.

only reason i would want john is if they get idris elba

 

[Tanin]

I could see if Hal was interesting, but he's not

I personally find the air force pilot more interesting a background then the Marine one... but I suppose that is more a personal preference.

 

[Rorschach2012]

only reason i would want john is if they get idris elba

I'm pretty sure a lot of people feel this way. I certainly feel that way. Elba or Johnson only for John, because they can elevate the character in the public's eye like no other actors can IMO. They would both be perfect. I'm not a huge John Stewart fan, so the actor REALLY has to knock it out of the park, he has to be perfect, and he also has to add something to the team besides diversity. Johnson provides star power and a magnetic personality, Elba provides gravitas.

The only way I'll be happy about John Stewart is if we get an actor that could bring as much to the table as Elba or Johnson can... I can't think of anyone else that could do that.

Because I prefer Hal, my standards for satisfaction with John are a lot higher.

 

[Beige Lantern]

Just realized that X-Men DOFP had a very white cast of leads (McAvoy, Fassbender, Jackman, Lawrence, Hoult, Peters, Dinklage, Page, Stewart, McKellan), and the minorities were really cut down to cameos where they were killed over and over again in the future.

Though, no one complained about that or cared.

Yeah, you have to reach a pretty high level of whitewashing nowadays to get gripes from anyone but SJWs.

Likewise, though, I hope WB has enough sense to realize that John Stewart wouldn't shift demographics to the point of losing white interest. This is a movie called Batman v Superman, for crying out loud. Plus, it's not like white audiences shun a black character. We all saw the Blade movies.

Plus, remember the casting of Rue in THG and Peter Parker and how a few Tweets from some ignorant morons got the mediasphere up in arms calling the whole Internet racist? That was actually great publicity. A few people Tweeting "but green lanturn is sposed to be white" would do the same.

 

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As I said a few pages back; this is my ideal JL lineup (8 people)

Supes
Bats
Wondy
John Stewart
Wally
Hawkgirl
Cyborg
Aquaman

That lineup would really avoid any tokenism. Two, GREAT, female characters. A great black character (Stewart), and another great black character that I've slowly warmed up to. Would be awesome to see.

And John stands on his own as a character. He has the most relatable personality out of all the GLs imho. I want to see him for that reason, and him adding diversity is just an extra piece of the puzzle.

Same with Shayera, great character and her adding diversity is an extra piece of the puzzle.

 

[Beige Lantern]

I also see Stewart being someone who can look at Bats and Supes and say "Shut up, you two. We have actual business to get done."

Although that's kinda Wonder Woman's role.