Which Hulk Is Stronger? (2008 or 2003)

[Crowforge]

Sorry but I didn't see him get hurt in the fashion you're saying. Only the sonic canons had some effect but so did the foam in the 03 version. Both Hulk's, however, were able to eventually break out/destroy both the foam and sonic canons.

He made the shield for the bullets...

 

[Dtank76]

1) You only addressed one point and said it was the most ridiculous thing in this thread..........

OK................

.. then why didn't you address my other points like 08 Hulk destroying vehicles alot easier than 03 Hulk or 08 Hulk taking the same/similar calibre weapons fire that hardly make him flinch (and not knock him down) at his baseline strength when 03 Hulk, who already had gotten stronger with his rage, was hurt and knocked down by one single tank blast (the same calibre of weapons fire as on 08 Hulk)????????????


Now that is 'ridiculous' from your line of thinking.

umm, what weapon in 08 was the same caliber as 120mm tank shells from 03? by the way, the bullets from the chain gun cut right into hulk when he was protecting betty 08. in 03 he took the same bullets from the helicopter in the desert , took no damage and barely flinched

 

[November Rain]

not to mention larger calibre weaponary from an aircraft fighter.

 

[ant3ros]

Sorry but I didn't see him get hurt in the fashion you're saying. Only the sonic canons had some effect but so did the foam in the 03 version. Both Hulk's, however, were able to eventually break out/destroy both the foam and sonic canons.

I think the sonic canons are different because they are both a concussive force and a sonic force. He was covering his ears so it must have been painful for his ear drums. It's not entirely physical harm.

The foam is different too because it's not acting to cause pain but as a restraint. I think the foam is less of an obstacle because it's a matter of strength which both Hulks could overcome.

 

[ant3ros]

He made the shield for the bullets...

Well, if someone keeps throwing marshmallows at me, it doesn't hurt. It would be annoying as hell though and I'd probably want to shield myself.

 

[Crowforge]

If you're not willing to seriously consider another view, why even discuss this?

 

[Infinity9999x]

If you're not willing to seriously consider another view, why even discuss this?

He's got a point though. We saw throughout the movie that the bullets didn't hurt Hulk. They never punctured his skin, they just bounced off him, but they were probably annoying. Hulk was just being smart when he made a shield, it wasn't because he was worried about the bullets actually causing him harm.

 

[Crowforge]

If I punch you in the ribs repeatedly it probably won't kill you but it'll hurt and you want me to stop it even though it's no threat to your life and doesn't break the skin.

 

[Infinity9999x]

If I punch you in the ribs repeatedly it probably won't kill you but it'll hurt and you want me to stop it even though it's no threat to your life and doesn't break the skin.

Well yeah, I kind of saw the bullets for Hulk as kind of like getting hit by a paintball gun for us. It won't kill us, but it hurts and it can be annoying as hell. I thought it was about the same kind of reaction that 03' Hulk had to being shot at, it ticked him off.

 

[nightcrawler01]

In 03 Hulk he had trouble lifting a few things and had to put extra force in bending the tank's cannon thingy. So, I would say 08 Hulk is the real Hulk and therefore stronger

 

[Crowforge]

They're both cg? They're as strong as the writer wanted them to be.

 

[redlion2]

umm, what weapon in 08 was the same caliber as 120mm tank shells from 03? by the way, the bullets from the chain gun cut right into hulk when he was protecting betty 08. in 03 he took the same bullets from the helicopter in the desert , took no damage and barely flinched

Umm.. I don't think he ever took a direct hit from the tank shells. When he was in the dunes, they burst all around him without hitting him. When they were going to fire on him while he's standing on top of the other tank, he sees this and uses the top half of the tank he's standing on to protect himself.

As far as the attack helicopters go, in 03 Hulk is being attacked by Apache Assualt copters. They usually have 30 mm(cal.) guns mounted aboard. In TIH, Ross calls in what appears to be a UH-60 Black Hawk gunship. These sometimes have 50mm(cal.) machineguns aboard. I believe Ross even asks "Where is that gunship?" There is a huge difference between 50 cal. ammo and 30 cal. ammo. In TIH, they're trying to bring the Hulk down....HARD. In TIH his body withstood that awesome assault just fine.

 

[Anubis Raptor]

Well yeah, I kind of saw the bullets for Hulk as kind of like getting hit by a paintball gun for us. It won't kill us, but it hurts and it can be annoying as hell. I thought it was about the same kind of reaction that 03' Hulk had to being shot at, it ticked him off.

Yeah thats the same thing that I thought....

 

[Zig-Zag Man]

Here's a question...have you ever lifted something off the ground vs swinging something?....major difference there my friend.

You have to be able to lifet something to swing it. And it's easier to lift something up. You use your upper body and lower body to ease the weight. To swing something you are just using your upper body and arms. Hulk swinging a 70 ton TANK is worlds more impressive then him lifting and pushing a fork lift.

 

[Midnight Black]

Both, Hulks (03&08) are equally smart IMO, that isn't the debate. They just showed their physicality in different ways.

08 Hulk however should have grown a little bit. The whole internal strength does not paint a great visual, and does not translate well on screen. It would make sense if we were reading a book [i.e. as it does in the Novel, or in comics] but it doesn't work for movies......WE want to see things happen not interpret or visualize.

But...are far better movie then 03. A 8.5 for '08 vs. a 6.5 for '03 IMO.

 

[Midnight Black]

You have to be able to lifet something to swing it. And it's easier to lift something up. You use your upper body and lower body to ease the weight. To swing something you are just using your upper body and arms. Hulk swinging a 70 ton TANK is worlds more impressive then him lifting and pushing a fork lift.

Actually, that is wrong....it is harder to dead lift something above your head then it is to swing it around. The momentum you build and the objects mass help to carry it around, so that you are not exactly using all of your arm and upper body.

Even though I think the 03 version is stronger, if you think about it Hulk picking up the Tank by the barrel helps to counter the leverage of the tank. Think of a teeter totter for instance.

 

[hame4479]

In 03 Hulk he had trouble lifting a few things and had to put extra force in bending the tank's cannon thingy. So, I would say 08 Hulk is the real Hulk and therefore stronger

The 08 Hulk had slight trouble getting that humvee up, while the 03 hulk picked a tank that was 4 times the size of that humvee and hammer threw it miles, not to mention running much faster than the 08 hulk, outjumping the 08 hulk by literally miles, and generally showing up the 08 hulk in strength. Anyone who says they are close is just lying to themselves.

 

[Lexar128]

You have to be able to lifet something to swing it. And it's easier to lift something up. You use your upper body and lower body to ease the weight. To swing something you are just using your upper body and arms. Hulk swinging a 70 ton TANK is worlds more impressive then him lifting and pushing a fork lift.

A good example is the conventional deadlift. In the deadlift, you use every muscle fiber in your body to lift that weight. When momentum is involved, the weight feels like its significantly reduced.

To try it out....fill a bookbag with 100 lbs of whatever, lift it straight off the ground and throw it as hard as you can with out swinging it. On your next throw, pick it up, swing it around 3 or 4 times, then let it fly. You will notice that it felt a ton lighter after the momentum of the swings.

 

[Midnight Black]

Did someone hear an Echo??

Jst/kdng Lexar....

 

[Lexar128]

The 08 Hulk had slight trouble getting that humvee up, while the 03 hulk picked a tank that was 4 times the size of that humvee and hammer threw it miles, not to mention running much faster than the 08 hulk, outjumping the 08 hulk by literally miles, and generally showing up the 08 hulk in strength. Anyone who says they are close is just lying to themselves.

You'll have to rewatch that scene. He picked up the front only of the hum-vee, which is a feat of strength of real world power lifters, then swung it like an aluminum baseball bat. After that, without putting the thing down, lifted it over his head and slammed it 3 more times. And he did this at baseline strength, where 03 was already at 15 feet tall, and pretty pissed off.

We never saw him leap very far, but did travel 2000 miles over night.

I'll agree with not running as fast though....08 couldn't catch Blonksy before being hit by the cannons.

 

[Lexar128]

Did someone hear an Echo??

Jst/kdng Lexar....

I'm sorry buddy, you must have got yours in before I did, haha

 

[Zig-Zag Man]

Actually, that is wrong....it is harder to dead lift something above your head then it is to swing it around. The momentum you build and the objects mass help to carry it around, so that you are not exactly using all of your arm and upper body.

Even though I think the 03 version is stronger, if you think about it Hulk picking up the Tank by the barrel helps to counter the leverage of the tank. Think of a teeter totter for instance.

When you pick something heavy off the ground, you don't just yank it up. If you know how to life, you slowly squat and use your body's strength with your arms and your legs to lift it. It is easier to do, than picking something up that is way heavier and swinging it.

In real life you couldn't swing a tank by it's gun barrel. The tank's mass would just nap off. The Hulk in TIH doesn't dead lift and put a fork lift over his head, and even if he did ... there is no way on god's green earth that would be more impressive than someone swinging a tank and throwing it a mile in the desert. These arguments are pointless. It was blatantly obvious Ang Lee's Hulk was stronger and more impressive. LL tried to make this Hulk weaker to ground the film in alittle more reality.

 

[Zig-Zag Man]

The 08 Hulk had slight trouble getting that humvee up, while the 03 hulk picked a tank that was 4 times the size of that humvee and hammer threw it miles, not to mention running much faster than the 08 hulk, outjumping the 08 hulk by literally miles, and generally showing up the 08 hulk in strength. Anyone who says they are close is just lying to themselves.

It isn't even a debate. I laugh at the kids below trying to sell one on the concept it was a greater feat of strength showing the Hulk lift a forklift and throw it, as opposed to Hulk lifting a tank and throwing it miles into the desert.



Hulk smashes the ground in TIH and he puts a crack on the roof. In Hulk, he smashes the ground in San Fransico and creates a small earthquake.

 

[Lexar128]

When you pick something heavy off the ground, you don't just yank it up. If you know how to life, you slowly squat and use your body's strength with your arms and your legs to lift it. It is easier to do, than picking something up that is way heavier and swinging it.

In real life you couldn't swing a tank by it's gun barrel. The tank's mass would just nap off. The Hulk in TIH doesn't dead lift and put a fork lift over his head, and even if he did ... there is no way on god's green earth that would be more impressive than someone swinging a tank and throwing it a mile in the desert. These arguments are pointless. It was blatantly obvious Ang Lee's Hulk was stronger and more impressive. LL tried to make this Hulk weaker to ground the film in alittle more reality.

What he did do was throw it effortlessly without swinging it, which is harder to do than swinging something around. I'm not saying that was more impressive than swinging the tank, what I'm saying is momentum makes things of the same weight seem lighter.

I bet if there was a tank that needed thrown a mile, the 08 Hulk was more than capable of doing just that.

 

[Lexar128]

When you pick something heavy off the ground, you don't just yank it up. If you know how to life, you slowly squat and use your body's strength with your arms and your legs to lift it. It is easier to do, than picking something up that is way heavier and swinging it.

In real life you couldn't swing a tank by it's gun barrel. The tank's mass would just nap off. The Hulk in TIH doesn't dead lift and put a fork lift over his head, and even if he did ... there is no way on god's green earth that would be more impressive than someone swinging a tank and throwing it a mile in the desert. These arguments are pointless. It was blatantly obvious Ang Lee's Hulk was stronger and more impressive. LL tried to make this Hulk weaker to ground the film in alittle more reality.

What he did do was throw it effortlessly without swinging it, which is harder to do than swinging something around. I'm not saying that was more impressive than swinging the tank, what I'm saying is momentum makes things of the same weight seem lighter.

I bet if there was a tank that needed thrown a mile, the 08 Hulk was more than capable of doing just that.