Which Hulk Is Stronger? (2008 or 2003)

[Lexar128]

It isn't even a debate. I laugh at the kids below trying to sell one on the concept it was a greater feat of strength showing the Hulk lift a forklift and throw it, as opposed to Hulk lifting a tank and throwing it miles into the desert.



Hulk smashes the ground in TIH and he puts a crack on the roof. In Hulk, he smashes the ground in San Fransico and creates a small earthquake.

Maybe his plan wasn't to bring down the entire building, haha

 

[Midnight Black]

When you pick something heavy off the ground, you don't just yank it up. If you know how to life, you slowly squat and use your body's strength with your arms and your legs to lift it. It is easier to do, than picking something up that is way heavier and swinging it.

In real life you couldn't swing a tank by it's gun barrel. The tank's mass would just nap off. The Hulk in TIH doesn't dead lift and put a fork lift over his head, and even if he did ... there is no way on god's green earth that would be more impressive than someone swinging a tank and throwing it a mile in the desert. These arguments are pointless. It was blatantly obvious Ang Lee's Hulk was stronger and more impressive. LL tried to make this Hulk weaker to ground the film in alittle more reality.

I agree 03 Hulk IMO was stronger given many things, that I am not disputing. It is just after thinking about it swinging is easier.

Reread what you wrote. You contradict your own statement. Try what Lexar said and you will see the difference.

Dead lifting something takes your legs, arms, upper body, etc. This exerts more force, although you are using multiple muscle groups. Swinging something does takes less force on the individuals part to do in order to throw it farther.

So if you are going by this analysis, then 08 would be Stonger because he deadlifts as opposed to swinging. You are contradicting yourself.

And by the way I'm in the Gym everyday....

 

[Zig-Zag Man]

'08 Hulk is weak compared to '03 Hulk ... so don't even worry about the comparison. The proof is in the pudding. Swinging a tank and throwing it a mile or two is more impressive by any standards than if someone picked up a forklift and threw it.

 

[Zig-Zag Man]

Maybe his plan wasn't to bring down the entire building, haha

Umm, Hulk is pure rage. He doesn't use intelligence like that. When Hulk says smash, Hulk tries to smash as hard as he can. He was getting his ass beat by Abomination, and Abomination's strength doesn't hold a candle to '03 Hulk. Hulk would tear apart both Abomination and TIH.

 

[Anubis Raptor]

When you pick something heavy off the ground, you don't just yank it up. If you know how to life, you slowly squat and use your body's strength with your arms and your legs to lift it. It is easier to do, than picking something up that is way heavier and swinging it.

In real life you couldn't swing a tank by it's gun barrel. The tank's mass would just nap off. The Hulk in TIH doesn't dead lift and put a fork lift over his head, and even if he did ... there is no way on god's green earth that would be more impressive than someone swinging a tank and throwing it a mile in the desert. These arguments are pointless. It was blatantly obvious Ang Lee's Hulk was stronger and more impressive. LL tried to make this Hulk weaker to ground the film in alittle more reality.

First of all this thread does have a point (multiple pages of debates that make plenty of sense). Second of all, there are things in this film that Hulk does (2008) that rival things that Ang's Hulk does. I agree that it was impressive and a great feat of strength when he threw the tank far away. But what about when Hulk in TIH ripped a car frame in half? It takes 11 million pounds of force to do this and he did this in about 3 seconds (maybe less)!!!!! Or what about when he shattered the ground beneath him with his bare hands. Find out how much force it takes to do this then come back talk to me......


You digg

 

[Zig-Zag Man]

I bet if there was a tank that needed thrown a mile, the 08 Hulk was more than capable of doing just that.

Doubt it. He wouldn't be the right size to do it. He's too small to accomplish such a feat. And his strength levels in TIH don't indicate him being anywhere near that capable in the strength department as comparable to Hulk from 2003.

 

[Midnight Black]

I think 03 was stronger. I think throwing a tank a mile {give or take a few} is more impressive then trowing a fork lift. WHICH by the way he used two hands to throw (comparable to an average man throwing a computer monitor in IMO, not a softball like Blonsky says {He Hyperbolizes- gross exaggeration})

But swinging something is by common physics easier to do then throwing. But YES the tank was heavier then the fork lift. I could tip a forklift over if I wobble it a few times...ok maybe not by myself, but I wouldn't need more than 5 people. I would need more than 50 for a Tank.

 

[ironwez20]

so what 03 hulk threw a tank he was still scared of the army imo, everytime he ran away it always was a look of im running for my life face. Hulk 08 didnt run from anything accept after he beat abomination and after he defeated the army , come on people hulk 08 isnt as powerful but he could kill this 03 hulk with his smarts and his abilitity to think for himself. I know for a fact that this hulk is more smart then 03 hulk because he can talk and he use shields, were as 03 hulk in the face of danger didnt even know what to do.

 

[Zig-Zag Man]

First of all this thread does have a point (multiple pages of debates that make plenty of sense). Second of all, there are things in this film that Hulk does (2008) that rival things that Ang's Hulk does. I agree that it was impressive and a great feat of strength when he threw the tank far away. But what about when Hulk in TIH ripped a car frame in half? It takes 11 million pounds of force to do this and he did this in about 3 seconds (maybe less)!!!!! Or what about when he shattered the ground beneath him with his bare hands. Find out how much force it takes to do this then come back talk to me......


You digg

Yeah, none of those instances show the level of strength of physical feats of how fast Ang Lee's Hulk runs, how far he jumps, how he managed to rip a dog apart with his bare hands (gamma irradiated flesh and bone) ... flexing his trap and splitting a dog's jaw, or being able to hold onto an F-22 headed towards the stratosphere ... or how about the earthquake he creates in San Francisco. How about catch a missle and biting it?

 

[Midnight Black]

You digg

It's ya digg, not you dig

*I'm just being stupid and kidding*

Umm, Hulk is pure rage. He doesn't use intelligence like that. When Hulk says smash, Hulk tries to smash as hard as he can. He was getting his ass beat by Abomination, and Abomination's strength doesn't hold a candle to '03 Hulk. Hulk would tear apart both Abomination and TIH.

Hulk is smarter then we give him credit for in the 03 TH he helps the fighter pilot out. In the pond he listens to what his crazy crazy dad says and then tries to overload him with power.

In the 08 TIH he figures out how to stop the sonic cannons. He makes a vacuum to smother the fire, and whatever else.

But yes I think Ang's version would take Abom apart. I agree with you 100%, but I just think you need to learn some physics.

 

[Lexar128]

It's hard debating something when there are more opinions than facts. We really don't know which version of the Hulk is stronger, we didn't see TIH throw a tank, he didn't create an earthquake with his smash, we didn't see him leap as far as Hulk. What we do know, is Hulk's character, 08 or 03, gets stronger with anger. So, I believe, since they are both "Hulk", they are both capable of the same feats.

 

[Zig-Zag Man]

It's ya digg, not you dig

*I'm just being stupid and kidding*

No, you got it right. That would be how a nerdy white guy, or someone's parents would say it.

 

[Zig-Zag Man]

But yes I think Ang's version would take Abom apart. I agree with you 100%, but I just think you need to learn some physics.

Naw, no need. I didn't need to know physics to know that twirling a tank and throwing it is a greater physical feat than picking up a forklift and chest passing it.

 

[ArtTeacher]

wow your stupid did you see the comments and periods.

"Wow, you're stupid. Did you see the commas and periods?"

-7.

F.

A couple points:
If you were walking into a swarm of harmless gnats, you might block your face, just because they're annoying and it would be easier to see if you did.

A have a strange feeling that if there was a tank in The Incredible Hulk, Louis Leterrier wouldn't say, "Okay, make sure the Hulk can't pick this up. The Hummer, fine. A forklift...well...okay. But in no way, shape, or form can this Hulk pick up a tank, because I'm making a Hulk that is far weaker than Ang Lee's Hulk. Got that?!"

 

[Midnight Black]

so what 03 hulk threw a tank he was still scared of the army imo, everytime he ran away it always was a look of im running for my life face. Hulk 08 didnt run from anything accept after he beat abomination and after he defeated the army , come on people hulk 08 isnt as powerful but he could kill this 03 hulk with his smarts and his abilitity to think for himself. I know for a fact that this hulk is more smart then 03 hulk because he can talk and he use shields, were as 03 hulk in the face of danger didnt even know what to do.

Ok..this is irrelevant about who would win AND 08 outsmarting the 03 Hulk. The 03 Hulk just became Hulk...he was an immature Hulk IMO, a baby Hulk.
08 Hulk has been around for 5 years and has been around the block.

It's like comparing Wolverine (on X-Men team) to Weapon X. Age grants experience, intelligence, and skills. Not a fair comparison

And YOU would run too if it were your first time fighting the Army&USAF. BUT the Hulk was smart enough to bite off the missile head and spit it out, jump on the chopper and bring it to the ground, etc.

 

[Anubis Raptor]

Yeah, none of those instances show the level of strength of physical feats of how fast Ang Lee's Hulk runs, how far he jumps, how he managed to rip a dog apart with his bare hands (gamma irradiated flesh and bone) ... flexing his trap and splitting a dog's jaw, or being able to hold onto an F-22 headed towards the stratosphere ... or how about the earthquake he creates in San Francisco. How about catch a missle and biting it?

Catch a missle and biting it then spitting it out~Withstanding a grenade at close range then saying leave me alone

Rips mutant dog apart~Over powering someone who is stronger than you (Abomination)

Breaks Dog's jaw~Beats Abomination's head through the ground

Earth quake in SF~Obliterating what looks to be an entire express way (beginning credits)

I'd say this is arguable.........what about you????????

 

[Lexar128]

Naw, no need. I didn't need to know physics to know that twirling a tank and throwing it is a greater physical feat than picking up a forklift and chest passing it.

Twirling a tank IS harder to do than throwing a forklift. So maybe there is a point where this debate inside of a debate can be met halfway.

Can we say its harder to throw a tank like you would a baseball than it would be to throw it like a discus?

 

[Anubis Raptor]

No, you got it right. That would be how a nerdy white guy, or someone's parents would say it.

LMAO

 

[Midnight Black]

Naw, no need. I didn't need to know physics to know that twirling a tank and throwing it is a greater physical feat than picking up a forklift and chest passing it.

Yes, it is a greater show of strength...If you read my earlier posts in this thread I am not debating that. I am on your side. However, after thinking about it swinging the tank would be easier for the 03 version [keep in mind I said 03 version Hulk] than it would be for him to simply pick it up over his head. Dead lifting would be harder.

And the tank would not rip apart if you swung it from the barrel. That is welded on there and bolted very tightly. What would bend the barrel would be if he held it at a still angle where the shaft could not support the weight of the body of the tank.

I need a teaching license.

 

[ironwez20]

Ok..this is irrelevant about who would win AND 08 outsmarting the 03 Hulk. The 03 Hulk just became Hulk...he was an immature Hulk IMO, a baby Hulk.
08 Hulk has been around for 5 years and has been around the block.

It's like comparing Wolverine (on X-Men team) to Weapon X. Age grants experience, intelligence, and skills. Not a fair comparison

And YOU would run too if it were your first time fighting the Army&USAF. BUT the Hulk was smart enough to bite off the missile head and spit it out, jump on the chopper and bring it to the ground, etc.

that was always my other arguement, i always thought that 03 hulk was somewhat of a baby hulk, but i dont think hulk can grow in intelligence according to movies, 03 hulk would be smart enough to make shields but he didnt, 08 hulk imo always had that intelligence even from the begining.

 

[Midnight Black]

No, you got it right. That would be how a nerdy white guy, or someone's parents would say it.

I don't know if that is sarcasm, but I too am LMAO.

 

[Midnight Black]

that was always my other arguement, i always thought that 03 hulk was somewhat of a baby hulk, but i dont think hulk can grow in intelligence according to movies, 03 hulk would be smart enough to make shields but he didnt, 08 hulk imo always had that intelligence even from the begining.

If Banner can learn to defend himself and fight and evolve from a book worm. Then IMO the Hulk can learn like a caveman [enter Gico cavemen]....actually I think even better. He just doesn't feel the need to express his vernacular all the time because:
Hulk voice, "Hulk thinks conversation with puny humans is boring and stupid...Waist Hulk's time"

Growing in intelligence is a GREAT idea. It gives Hulk depth and a humanity. I remember reading in comics where he let kids ride his back as he jumped through the air. He doesn't have to be violent all the time.

 

[Kirmit]

that was always my other arguement, i always thought that 03 hulk was somewhat of a baby hulk, but i dont think hulk can grow in intelligence according to movies, 03 hulk would be smart enough to make shields but he didnt, 08 hulk imo always had that intelligence even from the begining.

Just to point out, '03 did make a shield out of the top of the tank.

 

[Arc-Light]

Just to point out, '03 did make a shield out of the top of the tank.

I am pretty sure he wasnt using it as a shield, he tore off the top and was handling it when he was shot by the other tank, it just seemed like he was using it as a shield. Now of course he used parts of the tank as a club.

 

[Midnight Black]

I am pretty sure he wasnt using it as a shield, he tore off the top and was handling it when he was shot by the other tank, it just seemed like he was using it as a shield. Now of course he used parts of the tank as a club.

Definitely a shield. He saw the other tank aiming at him and he put the top of the tank in front of his chest to soften the blow. Though it looked like it hurt like H*ll!!!