Who has been healed in a Lazarus Pit?

[Fledermaus]

In Detective 818, i'm pretty sure. Big badda boom. Car bomb.

 

[TheFalcon]

Death and the Maidens is a 9-part maxi-series. There is a story setting it up in Detective 783 as the back-up story.

It has also been collected in a TPB.

What happens in the Detective back-up story?

 

[TheFalcon]

In Detective 818, i'm pretty sure. Big badda boom. Car bomb.

That's good. I thought she was a pretty bad character. She didn't seem to have an agenda and after Death and the Maidens she's hardly been seen at all. It seemed as if the writers didn't know what to do with her.

Hopefully Superboy Prime's reality punching or something has brought back the real Ra's.

 

[Andy C.]

Wonder Woman was healed by one in Trinity when Ra's Al Ghul ran her through, but I don't know if that one counts since it was a stand-alone series.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Death and the Maidens is a 9-part maxi-series. There is a story setting it up in Detective 783 as the back-up story.

So...it is in Detective Comics then.

 

[Fledermaus]

What happens in the Detective back-up story?

I'm pretty sure it's just an introduction to Nyssa.

So...it is in Detective Comics then.

Yes it is, but as a back-up story, about 7-10 pages.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Lazurus.

Your attempt at a wize-crack would have been better if you spelled his name right

 

[TheFalcon]

So...it is in Detective Comics then.

No, there was just a small story in Detective Comics #783.
Death and The Maidens was in it's own series which was 9 issues long.

And as I said earlier those 9 issues are collected in the Death and the Maidens TPB, so you don't have to look for the issues themselves.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Oh ok. Thanks. Been confused about that for a while lol.

 

[trustyside-kick]

And here is what I found on wikipedia about the Lazarus Pits:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazarus_Pit

The following people have used it:

- Nyssa
- Black Canary
- The Riddler
- Lady Shiva
- Cassandra Cain

I do not know why they did not say Talia since she used it to give Jason back from being a shell (Batman Annual #25).

 

[Mr. Socko]

Something is wrong

Because Bane's wikipedia page says he's been in the Lazarus Pit before...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bane_(comics)

 

[trustyside-kick]

Well you gotta take into consideration the fact that wikipedia is a huge online database encyclopedia created by average people.

But I think for the most part it is accurate with this.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

She didn't do it voluntarily. Nyssa shot her, threw her in, shot her again etc. about ten times in Death and The Maidens.

She did it to get Talia to side with her and forget about Batman, though I didn't really understand why killing/ressurecting her ten times would make her do that.

Hmmm.....I've got to pick up that book. But, I'm guessing the brain damage could do the trick. I think the Pits cause slight amounts of insanity with every use......so maybe doing that to her that many times that amount of time, crazy could do it.

Death and the Maidens is a 9-part maxi-series. There is a story setting it up in Detective 783 as the back-up story.

Is there a Hardcover edition?

Wonder Woman was healed by one in Trinity when Ra's Al Ghul ran her through, but I don't know if that one counts since it was a stand-alone series.

Doesn't Wonder Woman heal naturally though? Accelerated healing, or something....?

I'm not sure if Bane used the Pits........he might have, wasn't he banging Talia for a while?

 

[TheFalcon]

Hmmm.....I've got to pick up that book. But, I'm guessing the brain damage could do the trick. I think the Pits cause slight amounts of insanity with every use......so maybe doing that to her that many times that amount of time, crazy could do it.

They've changed that. Ra's improved the pits so that sideffect was removed.

Is there a Hardcover edition?

No and I don't think there will be.

Doesn't Wonder Woman heal naturally though? Accelerated healing, or something....?

I haven't read much about Wonder Woman apart from JLA, but I don't think she has any extra healing powers that are powerful enough to cure major damages. In Trinity somekind of with stabbed her in the side with a huge spear and she was losing a lot of blood fast.

I'm not sure if Bane used the Pits........he might have, wasn't he banging Talia for a while?

If he did use it I would bet it was in the Bane of the Demon story. I haven't read it, thoguh so I can't be sure. I checked the summary on thebatsquad.net, but that didn't mention the pits. It did say that Ra's wanted Bane to marry Talia, but I don't think it actually happened.

 

[Fledermaus]

You know, its got to suck to be the daughter of a psycho like Ra's.
He's tried to pawn her off on Batman, Bane and Azrael. Not to mention her little 'crush' on Jason Todd. Ten bucks says Talia ends up playing for the other team if you get my drift.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Isn't there some comic series that someone was talking about Batman having a kid and it is Talia's? I remember talking to someone in a thread about that but at the moment it is mainly a blur.

 

[Lorendiac]

They've changed that. Ra's improved the pits so that sideffect was removed.

(For those who came in late, TheFalcon was talking here about the "temporary insanity" thing that used to happen everytime Ra's (or anyone else) got dunked a Lazarus Pit.)

I don't think I had heard about the temporary insanity glitch having been removed. When did we hear about this? If I can track it down and confirm it, preferably with a specific issue number, then it's exactly the sort of thing that needs to be added to the Second Draft of my Ra's al Ghul FAQ before I post it anywhere!

If he did use it I would bet it was in the Bane of the Demon story. I haven't read it, thoguh so I can't be sure. I checked the summary on thebatsquad.net, but that didn't mention the pits. It did say that Ra's wanted Bane to marry Talia, but I don't think it actually happened.

I read "Bane of the Demon" when it first came out, and again a few years ago. I don't remember Bane dying and going into a Lazarus Pit in that story either. Other people have said he did, in fact, go into a Lazarus Pit, but I don't know when yet.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Ya I do not recall Bane using the Lazarus Pit either in that. When I get home I think I am going to skim through it incase I overlooked that.

 

[Lorendiac]

After seeing feedback on several forums, here is my current list of people in the "regular continuity" DCU timeline who have gone into a Lazarus Pit and been "resurrected" or at least "healed." Some of them people were still alive when they entered the Pit, as I understand it.

01. Bane ("Gotham Knights #49")
02. Batgirl III (Cassandra Cain) ("Batgirl #73")
03. Batman ("Birth of the Demon" graphic novel)
04. Black Canary II ("Birds of Prey #34")
05. Brian Bryan ("Azrael #6")
06. Jason Todd (Retroactively revealed to us in "Batman Annual #25" -- he was already alive again when he went into the pit, but it cured some amnesia for him)
07. Joker (The story arc titled "The Demon Laughs," in LOTDK #'s 142-145. I haven't read it, so I'm not sure which issue)
08. King Snake ("Robin #91")
09. Lady Shiva (Seen dead, hanging in the air above a Lazarus Pit, in "Batgirl #73." Apparently it is widely presumed that sooner or later she fell into the Pit and was resurrected.)
10. Nora Fries ("Batgirl #69")
11. Nyssa
12. Ra's al Ghul
13. Riddler (retroactively revealed to us in "Batman #619." We didn't actually see it happen)
14. Talia
15. What's-Her-Name (the aging actress who was the title character of the "Bride of the Demon" graphic novel. She apparently married Ra's and became pregnant with his child)
16. Wonder Woman (in Matt Wagner's "Trinity" miniseries)

I didn't bother citing sources for Ra's, Nyssa, or Talia. The Pits have been a family secret for a long, long time.

Anybody got a copy of "Bride of the Demon" handy? I remember the character, the movie star who was worried that she was losing her looks, but I can't remember her name. So I just called her "What's-Her-Name!"

Some of those stories are of "doubtful status" in continuity at the moment, but I decided to include them on this list for the time being, just to be on the safe side.

As I understand it, nobody at DC has told us that "Trinity" is in continuity, but I've seen some of its diehard fans arguing that it "could be" or "ought to be" or "will be" or whatever

Once upon a time, LOTDK stories were understood to be "apocryphal" -- some of them might have happened in continuity; others might not have. I don't know if "The Demon Laughs" is definitely in continuity or just "might be."

The graphic novels "Son of the Demon" and "Bride of the Demon" (sequel to "Son") were ruled to be "out of continuity" by Denny O'Neil at the time of Zero Hour. In those days he was the editor in charge of all the Batman titles, so he had the authority to make that stick. However, he is no longer in that position, and I hear rumors that Grant Morrison intends to drag "Son of the Demon" back into continuity soon. At any rate, I've heard that he plans a run on Batman; a long story arc called "Batman and Son". There are rumors that he has explicitly said this will be following up on the events of "Son of the Demon." (Does this mean that "Bride of the Demon" will also be dragged back into continuity? Beats me!)

 

[hippie_hunter]

In Detective 818, i'm pretty sure. Big badda boom. Car bomb.

No, she died in Robin

 

[trustyside-kick]

Bane's father went into the Pit?!?

 

[Lorendiac]

Bane's father went into the Pit?!?

Evidently in "Robin #91." I haven't read that one, so I don't think I knew about it either. And according to the people who told me about it, being dunked in the Pit restored Sir Edmund Dorrance's eyesight. However, he soon lost it again because of a new injury. (Presumably DC wanted that to happen so that they could continue the King Snake's schtick as "the world's greatest blind martial artist, who likes to fight in the dark," instead of letting him fight on more even terms with other skilled martial artists in broad daylight from now on).

 

[trustyside-kick]

Ah I see.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Isn't there some comic series that someone was talking about Batman having a kid and it is Talia's? I remember talking to someone in a thread about that but at the moment it is mainly a blur.

I've read that somewhere before too. But what happened to the child?

 

[trustyside-kick]

I've read that somewhere before too. But what happened to the child?

No clue.