Who has been healed in a Lazarus Pit?

[ChrisBaleBatman]

They've changed that. Ra's improved the pits so that sideffect was removed.

Really? So, the Pits doesn't create gradual insanity over a long period of time? Or the short burst of it after using it? Both?

I haven't read much about Wonder Woman apart from JLA, but I don't think she has any extra healing powers that are powerful enough to cure major damages. In Trinity somekind of with stabbed her in the side with a huge spear and she was losing a lot of blood fast.

Yeah, now that you mention it.....I've never actually seen her heal from a major injury, like I have seen Superman have.

If he did use it I would bet it was in the Bane of the Demon story. I haven't read it, thoguh so I can't be sure. I checked the summary on thebatsquad.net, but that didn't mention the pits. It did say that Ra's wanted Bane to marry Talia, but I don't think it actually happened.

Do you know if he and her ever got into it? I mean, I could see Ra's trying to push hionto her with her not wanting Bane at all (I mean, eewww.)

You know, its got to suck to be the daughter of a psycho like Ra's.
He's tried to pawn her off on Batman, Bane and Azrael. Not to mention her little 'crush' on Jason Todd. Ten bucks says Talia ends up playing for the other team if you get my drift.

Dude.....did Ra's actually try to pawn her off to Azrael??

She seems ****tier and ****tier.......

I read "Bane of the Demon" when it first came out, and again a few years ago. I don't remember Bane dying and going into a Lazarus Pit in that story either. Other people have said he did, in fact, go into a Lazarus Pit, but I don't know when yet.

Well, one of the things I would believe that Ra's would want is for his heir to have a taste of the fruit.....or something, think like a madman and it could make sense.

Also, you don't have to be dead or dying to use the Pits. I think something as simple as a cold, or something as uncurable as actually aging, gets fixed up by the Pits.

Evidently in "Robin #91." I haven't read that one, so I don't think I knew about it either. And according to the people who told me about it, being dunked in the Pit restored Sir Edmund Dorrance's eyesight. However, he soon lost it again because of a new injury. (Presumably DC wanted that to happen so that they could continue the King Snake's schtick as "the world's greatest blind martial artist, who likes to fight in the dark," instead of letting him fight on more even terms with other skilled martial artists in broad daylight from now on).

Wow....what a downer. You go blind, you then get it cured by the Pits....only to lose yor eye sight again. What's the saying? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me?

 

[trustyside-kick]

One of the Batman comics I have on my computer happens to be Bane of the Demon so gimme some time and I will answer both of your questions. :P

 

[Lorendiac]

I see people wondering about an old story where Talia got pregnant with Batman's child. Yeah, that's a subject that's caused a lot of confusion over the years. I'll be going into that in my "Ra's al Ghul FAQ." But here's a quick version.

1987. DC publishes "Batman: Son of the Demon," an original graphic novel written by Mike Barr. In it, Batman and Talia regard themselves as married, and she gets pregnant. Then she tells him she miscarried. Then they break up as if they were never "married" after all. Then, on the final page of the story, we see a healthy baby boy that's just been adopted by what appears to be a nice normal American couple. It is heavily implied that this is Batman's son that he doesn't know he has.

For the next seven years: None of the stuff from the plot of "Son of the Demon" is ever referred to in the regular continuity of Batman's monthly titles, as far as I know. Maybe it "really happened"; maybe it didn't.

1994. As one of the retcons that use Zero Hour as an excuse, Denny O'Neil (editor in charge of all Batman's series at the time) decrees that Batman has never had sex with Talia under any circumstances, "married" or "unmarried." Therefore, "Son of the Demon" never happened. ("Bride of the Demon" didn't happen either. It was a graphic novel also written by Mike Barr, but it hardly matters here because although it was a "sequel" to "Son of the Demon", it told us absolutely nothing new about the child of Batman and Talia!)

For the next twelve years: "Son of the Demon" is definitely "out of continuity" and, as before, its events never get mentioned in any of the monthly issues of the regular Batman titles that come and go during this time. However, an awful lot of fans apparently ended up reading copies of "Son of the Demon" during this twelve-year span, and often they didn't know it was officially supposed to be "out of continuity" because there was nothing on the cover to tell them so. Thus, a great deal of confusion.

2006. There are rumors that Grant Morrison intends to drag "Son of the Demon" back into continuity in his run on the Batman titles that will start in another couple of months. Allegedly, he will be using the long-lost kid as a character (much older than he used to be) and the story arc will be called "Batman and Son."

 

[trustyside-kick]

Okay for those of you who have not read Bane of the Demon here is what basically happens. If you do not wish to read it and spoiler it for you then do not highlight it. But to answer one of your questions..not Bane never uses the Lazarus Pit in this story.

This is a really long spoiler too...I went pretty good into detail.

Spoiler

The story starts off with Bane traveling the world trying to find out who is father is and about his past. They reveal how he was put in jail as a boy for merely being a son of a revolutionary in the caribbean. Bane finds men along his journey seeking names and answers and a priest tells him of two men that could possibly be his father that he refers to as "The Englishman" and "The Swiss".

Bane goes down the "pipeline" of people with information and while getting some information about The Swiss from someone Talia and her father's league happens to attack the same place. Bane takes Talia hostage but that does not last for long, she breaks free with an elbow to Bane and then Bane gets captured.

Talia decides to bring him to her father. To answer some other questions about Bane and Talia's "love life" here is your answer: Talia is swimming and an eel attacks her and Bane kills the eel. She gets all mad saying she does not need a man to protect her and that no man is to see her dressed that way. Bane basically says "so what" and grabs her and kisses her. Next page you see them in bed and talking.

Next big thing is that you find out Ra's has a big plan in mind. He is looking for old writings/papers about something called the wheel of plagues. He sends Talia and his assassins along with Bane to find more of the papers. Bane finds the book but tears out some pages to keep for himself. When Bane finds it he tells Talia and talks to her saying stuff like "My Love" which Talia does not like. You later find out that Talia no longer has no interest in Bane.

Ra's is happy to recieve the book but then notices there are pages missing and gets furious. While he is talking to Talia about this Bane is in the library and some librarian comes in and Banes asks him about some stuff. This leads to the librarian showing Bane one of the Lazarus Pits and the history behind it and Ra's Al Ghul. Bane then decides he wants to use the Pit for himself and makes plans of his own.

Bane confronts Talia in a garden and kisses her and talks to her about what happened between them. Talia refuses his love again and gets all mad and her father along with some men come. She tells him that she wants Bane dead and Ra's instead throws him into like a well-prison. Bane escapes the prison and finds Talia in her room and tells her of his plans to kill her father and her and he will be together forever no matter what she wants and he will be immortal with the lazarus pits.

This plan of Bane fails when after killing many of Ra's men he duels Ra's in a fencing match and loses. Before Ra's is about to kill Bane he tells him about the papers he stole from the book that Ra's wanted. Ra's seems to admire Banes cleverness or something and says that he wants Bane to be Talia's mate.

The story ends with them looking for the last part of finding the wheel of plagues and Bane is with Ra's and Talia in the desert.

Hope I did not leave anything out...that answer some of your questions guys? :P

 

[TheFalcon]

Anybody got a copy of "Bride of the Demon" handy? I remember the character, the movie star who was worried that she was losing her looks, but I can't remember her name. So I just called her "What's-Her-Name!"

Her name was Evelyn Grayce.

As I understand it, nobody at DC has told us that "Trinity" is in continuity, but I've seen some of its diehard fans arguing that it "could be" or "ought to be" or "will be" or whatever

The write up on the back of the HC collection of Trinity says that this is the story of the first meeting between Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman and it also says it's from their formative years.

Because of that I've always though it was in continuity, but then I read on a message board somewhere that it was not.
I think it should be. I can't see anything that contradicts other continuity, but as I mentioned earlier in the thread I'm not very familiar with Wonder Woman, so if there are any contradictions I would guess that they are about her.
There's also "the kiss", but that's a minor thing.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Wow......I think I see why Batman doesn't even want to touch Talia with a 50 foot stick.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Wow......I think I see why Batman doesn't even want to touch Talia with a 50 foot stick.

You read my huge ass summary? lol.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Well, I mean......she's had a thing with Bane. That dude, I mean.....I would never even want to touch a chick who's even kissed that guy. That dude is just.......ewwww. And she slobbered into Jason's mouth. I mean.....is there anyone else I should know about that has rung her bell?

And then Catwoman....well, aside from her being a hooker and not knowing who the father of her daugther is.....she's not so ****ty.

Sigh.....why can't my boy Batman find a good girl. That Superman fellow has such a great girl.....sigh......

 

[trustyside-kick]

Meh. Bruce is a rich playboy. :P

 

[TheDarkKnight_NL]

in the Batman/Superman series : Martian Manhunter/Flash and i think one other person have been healed in the Lazarus Pit in the dimension where Ra's was ruler of the world and Batman's parents were still alive

 

[Fledermaus]

Yeah he brought the whole JLA back to life.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Yeah, that's right.....I think Barry, Aquaman, Manhunter....maybe someone else, were brought back to life. But, seeing as how that took place in a time that never existed......I dunno, continuity time pardox, anyone?

Bruce being a rich playboy......ya know, up until that Morrison quote....I wouldn't have thought him being one meant anything. But, seeing as how he should have some fun (ya know....to keep up the whole act....) yeah.....it's good to be Wayne.