Homecoming Who should reboot villain be? (Poll Version)

[CaptainWagner]

No, I was saying only three of Spidey's villains have the goods to carry a Spidey movie all by themselves. Plenty of them could be a main villain, but they couldn't carry the movie as the sole antagonist for various reasons.

I see, I misunderstood you. But I do agree, I GG, Ock, Venom, Lizard, and maybe Mysterio are the only villains that could carry a movie all by themselves. But I don't expect the movies to have only one villain.


And kudos to the Tombstone mention. He needs to show up something awful.

 

[Mike Murdock]

I voted Kraven. I think he has a skill-set that would make for an interesting movie. I've always liked the character. That being said, I'm not upset Mysterio is winning. I think he'd be a strong contender too. The most important thing is to do somebody new. Don't repeat the past.

Regarding Vulture, I think he's an underrated villain. That being said, he doesn't have the pizzazz to attract the general audience. It's very easy to go "but he's just an old guy."

That being said, I'm surprised the mafia-related villains aren't even in the poll. I think there's potential in Silvermane, Hammerhead, and Tombstone. I'm stealing from the Spider-Man TV show, but I think there's potential in a rivalry between Toomes and Silvermane where Spider-Man has to fight both. It allows them to start small (Spider-Man fighting street level villains) while still allowing spectacle (Spider-Man fighting in the skies of New York). On top of that, there is an interesting (although completely inadvertent when I started writing this post) dichotomy between a young, High School aged Peter Parker fighting Silvermane and Adrian Toomes.

 

[SyntaxError]

I'd say Shocker as a minor villain to open the movie. Just a short 5 minute action sequence.

Then either Mysterio or Scorpion for the main villain. Both would be great as villains for the first film as they don't require much ground work and would establish Spidey's abilities. Easier to bring in PP's high school life.

And then, for the second film, directly after Infinity War, have Venom. Get Spidey to come back with the symbiote. And then, Carnage to follow. Either as a spin-off or as the third movie.

Afterwards, they can get Norman/Green Goblin (who I expect to be teased throughout the franchise from the beginning) or Kraven. But I really want them to tackle Venon/Carnage beforehand.

 

[SyntaxError]

1st film - Kraven
Infinity War - Black suit
2nd film - Venom
3rd film - Carnage
4th film - Green Goblin

This would be pretty perfect for me. If they cast young like they said there is no reason we can't get 4 Spidey movies.

Would love to see this.

 

[I'm Batman.]

And then, for the second film, directly after Infinity War, have Venom. Get Spidey to come back with the symbiote. And then, Carnage to follow. Either as a spin-off or as the third movie.

Ugh. Why are people trying to rush Venom again? It would make more sense for them to end the second film with a post-credits tease of Venom and have him as the villain in the third film. I can't think of a better idea for a sequel after Infinity War than the symbiote being brought to Earth, but to do that and use Venom as the villain in the same movie would be repeating Spider-Man 3.

 

[Spider2099]

Ugh. Why are people trying to rush Venom again? It would make more sense for them to end the second film with a post-credits tease of Venom and have him as the villain in the third film. I can't think of a better idea for a sequel after Infinity War than the symbiote being brought to Earth, but to do that and use Venom as the villain in the same movie again would be repeating Spider-Man 3.

Exactly. They should take their sweet time with Venom and let the whole symbiote story progress in a more organic fashion. Utilize inifinity war and let Spider-Man acquire the symbiote from space.

 

[Ultron-5]

Yeah they should introduce the symbiote in IW.

 

[Spider2099]

Yeah they should introduce the symbiote in IW.

It's a missed opportunity if they don't. Otherwise the symbiote will either fall from space via shuttle or meteorite or just come out of Oscorp.

 

[The Joker]

Ideally there should be no symbiotes at all. Symbiote villains suck.

 

[SyntaxError]

Ugh. Why are people trying to rush Venom again? It would make more sense for them to end the second film with a post-credits tease of Venom and have him as the villain in the third film. I can't think of a better idea for a sequel after Infinity War than the symbiote being brought to Earth, but to do that and use Venom as the villain in the same movie would be repeating Spider-Man 3.

Thats true, as long as the symbiote is brought from Infinity War. The reason why I want to get Venom early is because Infinity War is probably the best way to introduce the symbiote. I don't want another messy explanation ala Spider-Man 3.

But I see where you are coming from. Maybe have the symbiote introduced in Infinity War, and have it festering throughout the second solo movie with Kraven/etc. the main villain. Then at the end of that movie, tease the symbiote bonding with PP. Then have Venom as the main villain in the following (third) movie.

on another note, I really hope we see Carnage on the big screen one day. Maybe a Venom spin-off?

 

[Morbius]

Ideally there should be no symbiotes at all. Symbiote villains suck.

That's just like, your opinion man #thedude

I'd like to see Norman Osborn done right. So much wasted talent with Chris Cooper getting 2 minutes of screentime

 

[Spider2099]

2 minutes of Chris Cooper is terrible. They need to establish Norman Osborn as a big threat somewhere down the line in this reboot. A Spider-Man without the Goblin is like a Batman without a Joker.

 

[The Joker]

That's just like, your opinion man #thedude

 

[UltimateWebhead]

Ideally there should be no symbiotes at all. Symbiote villains suck.

I really wish they'd just stay away from that storyline(s) altogether.

 

[Morbius]

I guess you didn't understand the reference.

I'm going to go ahead and say, I think Morbius would feel out of place in a Spidey movie. Not sure the average moviegoer would like seeing a vampire go toe to toe with Spidey.

 

[Morbius]

I really wish they'd just stay away from that storyline(s) altogether.

While id like to eventually see Venom, there's other more interesting villains, however popular he is.

 

[Spider2099]

I want to see Venom done well on film though. That's been my dream since the 90s animated series. But I don't think there is a need to give him a spin-off or even make Spider-Man fight Carnage afterwards. Just conclude it with Venom and leave it at that.

 

[Morbius]

I want to see Venom done well on film though. That's been my dream since the 90s animated series. But I don't think there is a need to give him a spin-off or even make Spider-Man fight Carnage afterwards. Just conclude it with Venom and leave it at that.

Mine too. Brock done well would provide an excellent buildup to a frightening super powered villain. A million miles away from the pathetic, almost Mr.Freeze-style Electro we got in TASM2. Ryan Kwanten's performance in this Spidey short absolutely blew me away - very Patrick Batemanesque

http://youtu.be/7YDYL6oECjU

 

[Spider2099]

Mine too. Brock done well would provide an excellent buildup to a super powered villain. Ryan Kwanten's performance in this Spidey short absolutely blue me away - very Patrick Batemanesque

http://youtu.be/7YDYL6oECjU

Such a fantastic short film. So well done.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

While is like to eventually see Venom, there's other more interesting villains, however popular he is.

I want to see Venom done well on film though. That's been my dream since the 90s animated series. But I don't think there is a need to give him a spin-off or even make Spider-Man fight Carnage afterwards. Just conclude it with Venom and leave it at that.

I totally empathize with the fans of Venom. You want to see a character you love be properly represented on screen. I can dig it. I'm still waiting for my beloved Green Goblin to get his due.

I'm just not a Venom supporter. Other than being a visual treat he's not a very interesting villain. I'm not sure I understand why he's so popular.

 

[Morbius]

Absolutely!

 

[Morbius]

I totally empathize with the fans of Venom. You want to see a character you love be properly represented on screen. I can dig it. I'm still waiting for my beloved Green Goblin to get his due.

I'm just not a Venom supporter. Other than being a visual treat he's not a very interesting villain. I'm not sure I understand why he's so popular.

McFarlane's art and hank Azaria's voice acting, coupled with the nostalgia of The Animated Series in the 90s...
The young me wants to see Venom done right on the big screen, but I can't ignore how dull he can be otherwise. He's visually quite an exciting creature, but he doesn't offer much depth to a story other than referencing addiction and hitting things really hard

 

[SyntaxError]

I like Venom because it has so much potential. The idea of dual-life form, shape-shifting, PP being possessed... just think there is so much room for exploration. And as an added bonus, visually and aesthetically its wonderful.

Also the best story for a darker, grittier Spider-Man movie.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Regarding the Symbiote and Venom. If Marvel and Sony want to truly align their interests, it will be a good idea. However, part of my thinking is that Sony will go ahead with a Venom movie regardless so it would be a good idea not to screw that up. Have Spider-Man get the black suit in Infinity War, then have either a Spider-Man movie with the black suit or go with the Sinister Six idea which will apparently have Spider-Man in the black suit (that they also plan to go ahead with), finally, you can spin that off into a Venom film.

Yes, my idea is essentially "save Sony from themselves," but I still think it works.

BTW, my earlier idea I said was inspired by the Spider-Man cartoon. I meant the 90s cartoon, but it appears it is very, very similar to the first episode of the Spectacular Spider-Man. The only difference is I suggested Tombstone, Hammerhead, and Silvermane over the Enforcers. I don't regret that suggestion.

 

[Spider-Gnome]

Regarding the Symbiote and Venom. If Marvel and Sony want to truly align their interests, it will be a good idea. However, part of my thinking is that Sony will go ahead with a Venom movie regardless so it would be a good idea not to screw that up. Have Spider-Man get the black suit in Infinity War, then have either a Spider-Man movie with the black suit or go with the Sinister Six idea which will apparently have Spider-Man in the black suit (that they also plan to go ahead with), finally, you can spin that off into a Venom film.

100% agree!

BTW, my earlier idea I said was inspired by the Spider-Man cartoon. I meant the 90s cartoon, but it appears it is very, very similar to the first episode of the Spectacular Spider-Man. The only difference is I suggested Tombstone, Hammerhead, and Silvermane over the Enforcers. I don't regret that suggestion.

I didn't see your initial suggestion, I'm just trying to catch up, but I think they should use a lot of the ideas from the first episode of Spectacular in that it introduces a lot of the supporting cast and villains, before they become super villains. Just changed Tombstone with Kingpin.