I'm reposting my post on the last page because I felt some didn't see it.
Yes, indeed, but the images and the Scarecrow references led me to believe you wanted a more baddass, cunning, even truly frightening Mysterio. I wouldn`t like that.
But as I said in the last phrase of my post, I could still see most of your storyline ideas working (they are great), I just would not want a totally serious Mysterio. He could still be vengeful/playing off Peter`s memories while being same-old Mysterio, and working with a Bigger Bad.
I wouldn't consider my Mysterio frightening. He's more Freddy/Scarecrow influence in terms of he causes these illusions and you can't beat him by punching him. You sort of have to play his game to beat him.
In my first Mysterio story, he's really trying to entertain people in a way and trying to create news stories and buzz. In the third act with Spidey going to his place and the whole Circus thing, it does get a bit darker but Circuses are at times dark you know with the clowns and stuff.
In my second story, he decides if he can't get people to love him, he will make them love him and creates this world where he's the highest being so to speak. He's like Comstock in Bioshock Infinite. I can't say with the state of Rapture, he's like Ryan due to how depressing Rapture is. On the basis it does sound darker but this is a man who wants fame back who wants his name back and nobody will give him a chance so he's gonna make everyone suffer.
With the third story, he decides to put Spider-Man on the ride of his life by making him experience his worst nightmare with then his greatest dream in the hopes that Spidey never wakes up from that dream and won't be able to meddle in Mysterio's plans.
That is an excellent idea. I wouldn't mind seeing this at all. Not sure how I feel about Mysterio being a mutant/inhuman with illusion powers. There is already Mastermind and Lady Mastermind: mutants that have the power to create illusions. If Mysterio also has such an origin/power set, I would wonder why the story would not simply use Mastermind or Lady Mastermind.
Because I didn't know who Mastermind and Lady Mastermind is....
Also I think it's fair to share, there's bound to be mutants who share similar powers you know? It's not like everyone is different.
I don't know, I just feel that Mysterio having powers and using them to cash in really connects with Spidey and also helps in making his illusions seem possible.
Where do you see such an idea fitting into the Spider-Man atmosphere? The character has never really dealt with anything that is too cerebral.
While not hating my Mysterio, I wouldn't say I'm making him Doc Ock levels of smart. In the first story, he's primarily using his powers. The second story, he figures out a way to spread his powers and effect the entire island all at once. He would have done it on a small level in the audience of his shows being amazed his acts but now he's trying it on a larger scale. Third he just focuses on Spidey.
Also when you think of Spider-Man's rogues, besides Green Goblin, Kraven, Chameleon, and Doc Ock, there aren't that many cerebral beings. I consider why Connors is Lizard that Lizard is mindless you know? It always worked best for him to become a beast. Then you got guys like Shocker, Sandman, Electro, and Rhino who have never been known for their brains. Venom well you know how bad he is.
I don't see him as a true intelligent foe for Spidey. I see him as more of a rogue where Spidey does have to think a little more for then others simply because Mysterio in my take is a master of deceptive and illusion. How do you know if something is real or fake? When it hits Spidey and hurts him it sure feels real even though it makes not sense how.
I also got a brilliant and very, very different take on Chameleon that still respects the lore and what Chameleon is all about but it raises him above the B or C list of Spidey foes and makes him an A list. I would love to post it. Maybe tomorrow if you're interested.
Now with the post I want to reply to.
Brock is a character who I feel was burnt out due to over usage which was the same thing that happened to Green Goblin two decades before. Over usage kills interest. I think you could agree to that.
There's a difference. Green Goblin died and was dead for years. Norman was dead. Harry took over out of respect to his father.
With Eddie Brock, the problem is that he seems like a loser in a badass costume. You don't want to see Eddie, you want to see Venom.
And the amount of Venom usage isn't what has killed Venom. It's the fact we have Venom, Anti-Venom, Carnage, Toxin, Scorpion as Venom, female Venom. We have some many symbiotes it's too much and takes away from whatever makes Venom special. Honestly the only one I like is Carnage because Carnage is ****ing evil. Carnage is a serial killer. There are times where Venom is a hero and times he's a villain. With Carnage, he's 100% villain (except that recent comic arc).
When we look at Bane and Doomsday who came out around Venom and similar to Venom when compared to the heroes they are villains for, the reason Doomsday is a better character (and that's being nice to Doomsday saying he is a character) is because Doomsday is 100% monster. All he wants to do is kill and destroy everything. Writers use him more as a weapon because we know he isn't a mastermind and we always like seeing Doomsday fight Superman. With Bane, Bane is just as smart as Batman and a better fighter then Batman. Bane's only negative is his addiction to the Venom drug but even without it, he can still go toe to toe and beat Batman without it.
With Venom, there is nothing that makes him interesting other then the fact he's got Spider-Man's powers. Venom isn't a criminal mastermind like Bane. He's really Spider-Man's Doomsday but the problem is nobody knows it on the surface.
I only like Venom when he's with Flash. Agent Venom was the best thing ever to Venom. I love Agent Venom like I love Guy Gardner as a Red Lantern.
