Infinity War Who will die in Infinity war Part 1 and 2

[MbJ]

Gamora, Cap, War Machine, Okeye, Thor and temporarily Vision. Quote me.

Okoye is not going anywhere.

 

[KevTravels]

I don't see why you would pay Evans like 12 million dollars to be in Avengers 4 in that form? Seems like a waste of the character as well as money. I really don't see any of the big 4 dying in IW. I will be shocked if any of them do.

Avengers 4 is another story.

is he really getting $12 million?

 

[KevTravels]

Okoye is not going anywhere.

Exactly. She's safe. She has a trilogy to star in. Though it means we may be seeing way less of Michonne in The Walking Dead.

 

[Spider-Fan]

is he really getting $12 million?

Arbitrary number, but he got just under 7mil for AoU. My guess is he will get around $10.

 

[Venom'sDad]

I don't see why you would pay Evans like 12 million dollars to be in Avengers 4 in that form? Seems like a waste of the character as well as money. I really don't see any of the big 4 dying in IW. I will be shocked if any of them do.

Avengers 4 is another story.

Well, im not sure how much he's projected to get from his current contract; and i dont think it factor into how the brothers planning to use him.....given both he & his contract is done after this film anyway.

If the scenario plays out as i have suggested, it will have no bearings on fans going to see A4...i would even go so far to suggest tickets sales to A4 may receive a slight bump, because of. So i dont think Marvel & Fiege are that concern about how he is portrayed in A4 for rhe amount of money paid. I think they trust the brothers usage of the character, in closing out not on Cap's chapter in this saga; but, the overall conclusion of what amounts to 11yrs/22film arc & some of the most beloved characters on film.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Well, im not sure how much he's projected to get from his current contract; and i dont think it factor into how the brothers planning to use him.....given both he & his contract is done after this film anyway.

If the scenario plays out as i have suggested, it will have no bearings on fans going to see A4...i would even go so far to suggest tickets sales to A4 may receive a slight bump, because of. So i dont think Marvel & Fiege are that concern about how he is portrayed in A4 for rhe amount of money paid. I think they trust the brothers usage of the character, in closing out not on Cap's chapter in this saga; but, the overall conclusion of what amounts to 11yrs/22film arc & some of the most beloved characters on film.

I agree they should conclude his character well because the Russos clearly have gotten Cap, but that doesn't change my view that dying in IW is a massive waste. It's my trust in them that makes me think they won't do that. Not unless he gets resurrected in A4. Same goes for the other big 4 characters.

 

[SteveRogers41]

Well, im not sure how much he's projected to get from his current contract; and i dont think it factor into how the brothers planning to use him.....given both he & his contract is done after this film anyway.

If the scenario plays out as i have suggested, it will have no bearings on fans going to see A4...i would even go so far to suggest tickets sales to A4 may receive a slight bump, because of. So i dont think Marvel & Fiege are that concern about how he is portrayed in A4 for rhe amount of money paid. I think they trust the brothers usage of the character, in closing out not on Cap's chapter in this saga; but, the overall conclusion of what amounts to 11yrs/22film arc & some of the most beloved characters on film.

Doubtful that Cap will only be a BARF memory in Avengers 4. Spoilers as to why I feel this way...

Spoiler

This photo was taken from the Avengers 4 set:

Ant-Man's 'tech' is embedded into his suit, meaning that this is Pym tech. Stark and Cap have theirs as slip-ons. My theory is that Scott misses Thanos' attack because he is in the Quantum Realm (this is why Ant-Man and the Wasp is in the middle of Avengers 3 and 4), when he gets back from he grabs Stark and Rogers to use the Quantum Realm to travel back in time to fix things. Thus explaining this picture.

 

[Venom'sDad]

A4 is said to be a very different film...a conclusion; as well as, a beginning. You dont know how well his usage would be, in the context of the story...not only for A4; but, the whole narrative of all the films, if what I suspect be the case. I trust these guys. I suspect Steve's journey comes to an end in IW & we will witness Tony's journrey come to an end in A4, under different circumstances. A4 is sincerely believe is going to be about Tony & what he can despirately do, before somberly leaving the team in the best position possible, enlight of all what has happen, moving forward....that will be his Legacy.

 

[KevTravels]

Arbitrary number, but he got just under 7mil for AoU. My guess is he will get around $10.

Fair point. I do wonder if the cast salaries are for each film or a total of both. I could def see him getting near $12 million considering the success of Civil War (though a lot of that was due to so many Avengers being in it).

 

[Spider-Fan]

A4 is said to be a very different film...a conclusion; as well as, a beginning. You dont know how well his usage would be, in the context of the story...not only for A4; but, the whole narrative of all the films, if what I suspect be the case. I trust these guys. I suspect Steve's journey comes to an end in IW & we will witness Tony's journrey come to an end in A4, under different circumstances. A4 is sincerely believe is going to be about Tony & what he can despirately do, before somberly leaving the team in the best position possible, enlight of all what has happen, moving forward....that will be his Legacy.

Avengers 4 will be a different film, no doubt. But, even if it is a new beginning, I don't see a universe where any of the big 4 are reduced to a glorified posthumous cameo. I just don't see it happening, especially when they made a big deal about resigning them all to Avengers 4 like they did. If any of them die in IW, I just don't see it being permanent. You will not convince me otherwise. I may not know what they have planned, but that doesn't matter. I see it as a gigantic waste if they do.

 

[SteveRogers41]

A4 is said to be a very different film...a conclusion; as well as, a beginning. You dont know how well his usage would be, in the context of the story...not only for A4; but, the whole narrative of all the films, if what I suspect be the case. I trust these guys. I suspect Steve's journey comes to an end in IW & we will witness Tony's journrey come to an end in A4, under different circumstances. A4 is sincerely believe is going to be about Tony & what he can despirately do, before somberly leaving the team in the best position possible, enlight of all what has happen, moving forward....that will be his Legacy.

Actually, the Russos said Cap's arc that they started in Winter Soldier ends in Avengers 4, not Infinity War:

“For us, this was the challenge of telling the story but also completing the personal journey that we started as storytellers in Winter Soldier,” Joe Russo told Spin 1038 on the press circuit in London. “So the story that began in Winter Soldier and that ends in Avengers 4 is a, there’s a very personal arc there for us. I think you’ll understand our point of view as filmmakers and who we are as people when you watch all four of those movies together.”

https://www.cbr.com/avengers-4-concludes-captain-america-winter-soldier-story/

Of course, it goes without saying that "the story that began in Winter Soldier and that ends in Avengers 4" does not necessarily mean death. It could mean anything. I didn't post the quote to argue whether 'the end' means death or not but to point out the that Russo brothers confirmed Steve has a big part in Avengers 4 and that the story they started in Winter Soldier ends in Avengers 4, not in Infinity War.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Doubtful that Cap will only be a BARF memory in Avengers 4. Spoilers as to why I feel this way...

Spoiler

This photo was taken from the Avengers 4 set:

Ant-Man's 'tech' is embedded into his suit, meaning that this is Pym tech. Stark and Cap have theirs as slip-ons. My theory is that Scott misses Thanos' attack because he is in the Quantum Realm (this is why Ant-Man and the Wasp is in the middle of Avengers 3 and 4), when he gets back from he grabs Stark and Rogers to use the Quantum Realm to travel back in time to fix things. Thus explaining this picture.

Those wristbands can imply any number of reasons; however, i fail to understand why Cap would suddenly change clothes, shave, & revert persona under the circumstances they all are currently embedded in, with the Accords still in place. What if that Barf or another time period or dimension....Cap in present time, may be very well deceased.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Avengers 4 will be a different film, no doubt. But, even if it is a new beginning, I don't see a universe where any of the big 4 are reduced to a glorified posthumous cameo. I just don't see it happening, especially when they made a big deal about resigning them all to Avengers 4 like they did. If any of them die in IW, I just don't see it being permanent. You will not convince me otherwise. I may not know what they have planned, but that doesn't matter. I see it as a gigantic waste if they do.

Well, i wasnt trying to convince you of anything. I was just answering your question the best i know how, given how I see thing possibly panning out.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Those wristbands can imply any number of reasons; however, i fail to understand why Cap would suddenly change clothes, shave, & revert persona under the circumstances they all are currently embedded in, with the Accords still in place. What if that Barf or another time period or dimension....Cap in present time, may be very well deceased.

If it is time displacement, then the Accords may not be in place at this point in time. He might be trying to blend in with that period of time. Hence the costume and shave.

 

[Venom'sDad]

If it is time displacement, then the Accords may not be in place at this point in time. He might be trying to blend in with that period of time. Hence the costume and shave.

Which still doesnt confirm Cap's death or not, based on that set pic.

 

[SteveRogers41]

Those wristbands can imply any number of reasons; however, i fail to understand why Cap would suddenly change clothes, shave, & revert persona under the circumstances they all are currently embedded in, with the Accords still in place. What if that Barf or another time period or dimension....Cap in present time, may be very well deceased.

Spoiler

Easy: if you're going back in time and you know you're going back in time, you make yourself look like how you did then so as not to alert anyone that you're a time traveler messing with the space-time continuum.

Why would Scott give an Avengers 2012 era Steve Rogers Pym tech? Answer, he wouldn't. But he would give the current Steve, the one armed with knowledge of Thanos, Pym tech and a razor, and, if he was feeling generous, some after shave to go with it, before introducing Steve to the Quantum Realm. For all we know Scott could have Fury's help to do it, i.e. Fury giving Scott the Avengers suit for Steve to wear before traveling back in time. The Accords don't factor into this at all.

There is another benefit in enlisting Steve as the one to go back and time and prevent Thanos from getting the stones. Steve, out of all of the Avengers, spent the most time up close and personal with the space stone (tesseract).

 

[SteveRogers41]

If it is time displacement, then the Accords may not be in place at this point in time. He might be trying to blend in with that period of time. Hence the costume and shave.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[nypinta]

Maybe not time displacement, but they're in a different universe, one where the Accords might not have happened, and one that Doctor Strange says they defeated Thanos so they're there to find out how... just throwing that out there.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Which still doesnt confirm Cap's death or not, based on that set pic.

No, but same could be said for the other 2 characters as well.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Maybe not time displacement, but they're in a different universe, one where the Accords might not have happened, and one that Doctor Strange says they defeated Thanos so they're there to find out how... just throwing that out there.

Also possible. With the multiverse, really anything is.

 

[Venom'sDad]

No, but same could be said for the other 2 characters as well.

If you are referring to Iron & Ant Mans...i think they are well & alive at the end of IW. I'm just making a case why i feel Cap dies by the end of IW. Consequences are involved & what i suspect we will see in the mist of multiple storylines in A4 is Tony trying rectify or stop his vision from becoming complete & utterly reality...by any means necessary.

 

[SteveRogers41]

Maybe not time displacement, but they're in a different universe, one where the Accords might not have happened, and one that Doctor Strange says they defeated Thanos so they're there to find out how... just throwing that out there.

Could be! It is rather telling that the two movies between Avengers 3 and 4 are Ant-Man and the Wasp and Captain Marvel. I do feel they are going to explore the multi-verse in more thorough detail, using those two films to do it, before we get to Avengers 4.

 

[Spider-Fan]

If you are referring to Iron & Ant Mans...i think they are well & alive at the end of IW. I'm just making a case why i feel Cap is dies by the of IW. Consequences are involved & what i suspect we will see in the mist of multiple storylines in A4 is Tony trying rectify or stop his vision from becoming complete & utterly reality...by any means necessary.

If they go this route and kill Cap and have Tony go to prevent his vision from coming to light, then I see Cap being resurrected in the end.

 

[Venom'sDad]

If they go this route and kill Cap and have Tony go to prevent his vision from coming to light, then I see Cap being resurrected in the end.

Thats what most suspect will happen...and i dont see that occurring. Thanos will most likely win in IW; but, somehow be stripped of his power in A4, only for Tony to realize there would be grave consequences in undoing what has already transpired to this point.

It's like AoS....there is a much bigger picture involve. In order to save Billions on Earth; Coulson has to die. That is what being suggested on the show....yes there appear to be an alternative...but we are still not sure.

In this case, im suggesting an unknown count of life in the Universe vs one fellow human. When Tony reach that realization, it may be best that things remain as is.

Just one pov....

 

[Spider-Fan]

Thats what most suspect will happen...and i dont see that occurring. Thanos will most likely win in IW; but, somehow be stripped of his power in A4, only for Tony to realize there would be grave consequences in undoing what has already transpired to this point.

It's like AoS....there is a much bigger picture involve. In order to save Billions on Earth; Coulson has to die. That is what being suggested on the show....yes there appear to be an alternative...but we are still not sure.

In this case, im suggesting an unknown count of life in the Universe vs one fellow human. When Tony reach that realization, it may be best that things remain as is.

Just one pov....

In this scenario, I imagine more than just Cap would die. Possibly Thor, etc. also. I don't see Tony if he has the chance to save everyone not doing so. I see him sacrificing himself while saving everyone, and undoing as many of the deaths as he is able. I mean, why would he be able to potentially restore however much of a % of the universe Thanos wipes out, but the Avengers he kills...no can't undo those! Wouldn't make much sense. I agree, Thanos will win...likely have the gauntlet, end half the universe, etc. There we agree, but ultimately, I see in this scenario many of the deaths being undone once Thanos loses the gauntlet.