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Who's winning the Civil War/long term implications

That you can. But I'm still gonna be right.
 
I know Marvel has to sell books, but in reality, it makes no sense for the Hulk to come back to Earth for ANY reason...let alone to wage war.


The Illuminatti exiled him with the hope of him being off Earth forever, but having his own planet to live in peace. Well....in a roundabout way, that's what happened.

Sure, it was a long, violent ,bloody road, but the Hulk now has his own planet that he rules...his people LOVE him, his allies respect him, and he even has a hot warrior chick for a girlfriend.

If I'M the Hulk, i'm staying put.

Screw Earth. :down

But the Hulk holds grudges and likes to prove he's the strongest. Him coming back to wage war, is like saying "Hulk is the Strongest" plus to beable to come back with a whole planet on your side, its like throwing it back in there faces, pretty much its there fault for whatever happens with the Hulk. Plus I think that is what the Illuminati mini is showing us, that eventhough they try to manipulate events for the greater good of man, who are they to make those decisions, and what if there decisions make things worse, a group like the Illuminati is never a good thing. Plain and simple, if Hulk never returned, that would be stupid and out of character.
 
But the Hulk holds grudges and likes to prove he's the strongest. Him coming back to wage war, is like saying "Hulk is the Strongest" plus to beable to come back with a whole planet on your side, its like throwing it back in there faces, pretty much its there fault for whatever happens with the Hulk. Plus I think that is what the Illuminati mini is showing us, that eventhough they try to manipulate events for the greater good of man, who are they to make those decisions, and what if there decisions make things worse, a group like the Illuminati is never a good thing. Plain and simple, if Hulk never returned, that would be stupid and out of character.


If the Hulk returns and starts killing people, then the rest of the marvel U will want him dead[even his cousin].
 
I know Marvel has to sell books, but in reality, it makes no sense for the Hulk to come back to Earth for ANY reason...let alone to wage war.


The Illuminatti exiled him with the hope of him being off Earth forever, but having his own planet to live in peace. Well....in a roundabout way, that's what happened.

Sure, it was a long, violent ,bloody road, but the Hulk now has his own planet that he rules...his people LOVE him, his allies respect him, and he even has a hot warrior chick for a girlfriend.

If I'M the Hulk, i'm staying put.

Screw Earth. :down


But he's not alone or living in peace, hes the King, theres no peace in that.
 
Dude, I hope he doesn't die now so I can pull up every one of these posts and make you look stupid.


He wont die, he will fake his own death. Steve will do this because he will realize that as long as "Captain America" is leading the resistance, Tony will not let up, and will keep coming at them as hard as he can until he either makes Cap change his mind (which aint gon happen), brings him into custody, or Cap dies (which Tony would not want). So Cap will fake his own death for the greater good of the resistance, and then he will take up the guise of Ronin.

Cap is Ronin.
 
If the Hulk returns and starts killing people, then the rest of the marvel U will want him dead[even his cousin].


I dont think he will kill people, I think he will want to punish the people who exiled him, and because of this and the Registration, the Government will have there first true test, so whether the Hulk is just attacking specific characters or the whole super-hero community, the Government will have no choice but to attack Hulk and his followers. I dont think Hulk will come back to Earth with the intentions to start a war, but he will come back to get revenge on the ones who exiled him, I think the Government will push it to the point of War, thus World War Hulk.
 
I dont think he will kill people, I think he will want to punish the people who exiled him, and because of this and the Registration, the Government will have there first true test, so whether the Hulk is just attacking specific characters or the whole super-hero community, the Government will have no choice but to attack Hulk and his followers. I dont think Hulk will come back to Earth with the intentions to start a war, but he will come back to get revenge on the ones who exiled him, I think the Government will push it to the point of War, thus World War Hulk.


SO he is gonna be killing people.
 
I dont think he will kill people, I think he will want to punish the people who exiled him, and because of this and the Registration, the Government will have there first true test, so whether the Hulk is just attacking specific characters or the whole super-hero community, the Government will have no choice but to attack Hulk and his followers. I dont think Hulk will come back to Earth with the intentions to start a war, but he will come back to get revenge on the ones who exiled him, I think the Government will push it to the point of War, thus World War Hulk.

This is thing people aren't taking into account when talking about WWH. This is NOT the savage hulk. He's far more reasoned (he was willing to have discourse with the spikes while everyone arround him wanted to attack them). This hulk is a military strategist, he's a leader. He's no longer a savage beast, now he has the strength AND the brains to back it up. There'll still be plenty of smashing but this is a different kind of hulk and I don't see the innocent bystander casualties being that high at all. I just thank god they didn't give this to bendis otherwise he'd just start running round eating people :whatever:
 
This is thing people aren't taking into account when talking about WWH. This is NOT the savage hulk. He's far more reasoned (he was willing to have discourse with the spikes while everyone arround him wanted to attack them). This hulk is a military strategist, he's a leader. He's no longer a savage beast, now he has the strength AND the brains to back it up. There'll still be plenty of smashing but this is a different kind of hulk and I don't see the innocent bystander casualties being that high at all. I just thank god they didn't give this to bendis otherwise he'd just start running round eating people :whatever:

That is pretty much my point, this version of Hulk is very stable, but Hulk will always wanna prove he is the strongest. The Government wont realize what they are getting themselves into, the government will push to the point of War.
 
Where do I say or imply he will kill people. He has held back from willingly killing all these years, why would he do it now?

I dun think your following you own posts. Hulk comes back to earth for revenge like you said, you then said he might target certain people[those who sent him into space]. Thus one must assume this revenge he seeks is to beat his targets to death[killing certain people].
 
I dun think your following you own posts. Hulk comes back to earth for revenge like you said, you then said he might target certain people[those who sent him into space]. Thus one must assume this revenge he seeks is to beat his targets to death[killing certain people].

Revenge doesnt mean, a person has to kill, you can take it how you want, cause thats not what I was implying.
 
I think Hulk will eventually show up, to basically say **** off for doing what they did and to let them know he will stay on Sakaar, but because of the registration the government will attack before he explains what he is there for. The government will throw the first punch and kick off the war.
 
But the Hulk holds grudges and likes to prove he's the strongest. Him coming back to wage war, is like saying "Hulk is the Strongest" plus to beable to come back with a whole planet on your side, its like throwing it back in there faces, pretty much its there fault for whatever happens with the Hulk. Plus I think that is what the Illuminati mini is showing us, that eventhough they try to manipulate events for the greater good of man, who are they to make those decisions, and what if there decisions make things worse, a group like the Illuminati is never a good thing. Plain and simple, if Hulk never returned, that would be stupid and out of character.

Out of character how? Every Hulk comic i've read over the past 35 years shoes the Hulk not really wanting to fight. He really just wants to be left alone.

Besides that, the current version of the Hulk is not the "Hulk is the strongest" version. The current incarnation seems to be a 50/50 mix with Banner.

Logically, with all that he's accomplished, Banner would have no reason to return.
 
But he's not alone or living in peace, hes the King, theres no peace in that.

Again; he's surrounded by REAL friends and allies, and has united the planet under HIS rule.

There's no reason whatsoever for him to risk throwing that all away. If anything, his new planet wants and needs him a hell of a lot more than Earth ever has.

I'd much rather see him stay where he is, and further explore his own planet...maybe defend it from interstellar invasion, or whatever, then waste all his past efforts returning to Earth to "kick ass" on people that werent really trying to cause him any real harm to begin with.
 
Same here, Cap. I don't mind the Hulk being away from Earth, although I do still have to catch up with the current arc again. Probably trade wait though.
 
This weekend I was chatting with one of my best friends and he has pretty much the same opinion as Marvelman in regards to Hulk coming back and punishing those that wronged him. He went on and on on how they should be punished (including him impregnating Medusa to punish Black Bolt) to the point where he said that he should kill Tony. To which I replied: "Great! He should do all of those things to prove without a doubt that they were right in exiling him." He "watered down" the "punishments" so they wouldn't be so "severe".

I'll be honest in saying that I'm not much of a Hulk fan, but I've read Planet Hulk and found that it was pretty cool. The character has been WAY more interesting there than what he has been in a while. Like a lot of people have said: I fail to see what is the use of bringing him back to Earth. I know it's gonna be great for the Hulk zealots because Hulk is going to be pitted against the other heroes and he can smash them to their little zealot heart's content. To me, it's also great because it further solidifies that Hulk isn't a hero but an anti-hero on the edge. I can see why Marvel would take away Hulk from his ruling position, there are very few characters that DON'T become boring when they reach that status and I doubt Hulk would be one to achieve it.
 
Out of character how? Every Hulk comic i've read over the past 35 years shoes the Hulk not really wanting to fight. He really just wants to be left alone.

Besides that, the current version of the Hulk is not the "Hulk is the strongest" version. The current incarnation seems to be a 50/50 mix with Banner.

Logically, with all that he's accomplished, Banner would have no reason to return.


Out of character because, eventhough he wants to be left alone, he still holds grudges and he doesnt forget. Plus I have already stated in an earlier post that, I think he will come to earth but not intendeing to start a war or fight, but that the Government will just attack because he is the Hulk, and the Government wont care if he wants to be left alone, they will just see him show up out of nowhere and they will see him as nothing but a threat.
 

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