Why are there no Daredevil style vigilantes??

[sinewave]

there's the guardian angels that started in nyc back in the late 70's. they were basically a neighborhood watch/vigilante organization that patrolled the streets and subways in groups. they're still active today and have spread to countries like japan, new zealand and the uk. you can read more about them here.

there's also people like this who claim to fight crime in costume.

 

[Addendum]

No doubt there is a difference, and I dont want my post to sound like I am condoning vigilantism, I was just saying it is possible to find some of the bad apples and try and handle it yourself. Im a law enforcement guy, so I say let the police do their job, but if it is time to defend yourself, do what is necessary.

Of course. If some dumbass breaks into a house, the home-owner has every right to shoot, if they own a firearm.

The only legalities that arise would be if that firearm isn't registered, if that home-owner has a gun license, and if the intruder wasn't inside the house if he was killed.

 

[jaguarr]

No doubt there is a difference, and I dont want my post to sound like I am condoning vigilantism, I was just saying it is possible to find some of the bad apples and try and handle it yourself. Im a law enforcement guy, so I say let the police do their job, but if it is time to defend yourself, do what is necessary.

Yeah, I knew what you were saying, dude. Defending yourself is a given, IMHO. Going out looking for trouble is another thing, though, which is what vigilante's do.

For perspective, though, keep in mind that the kids that shot up Columbine thought they were vigilantes.

jag

 

[Eros]

why are we humering the thread starter? He actually sat and wondered why suprheroes do not exist in the real world.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

No doubt there is a difference, and I dont want my post to sound like I am condoning vigilantism, I was just saying it is possible to find some of the bad apples and try and handle it yourself. Im a law enforcement guy, so I say let the police do their job, but if it is time to defend yourself, do what is necessary.

Right, but as me and Jag agree...if that Marine, Boxer or whathaveyou were to make a practice out of defending his turf, his longevity would be severely shortened.

 

[jaguarr]

Of course. If some dumbass breaks into a house, the home-owner has every right to shoot, if they own a firearm.

The only legalities that arise would be if that firearm isn't registered, if that home-owner has a gun license, and if the intruder wasn't inside the house if he was killed.

*points gun*

"Freeze! Step back inside the house. Turn and face me!" *BANG! BANG! BANG!* "Oh, I thought he had a gun. At least he was inside the house."

(Simple solution for that.)

jag

 

[Qwerty©]

why are we humering the thread starter? He actually sat and wondered why suprheroes do not exist in the real world.

Actually the thread starter is wondering why we haven't heard of people who try to be vigilantes.

 

[jaguarr]

why are we humering the thread starter? He actually sat and wondered why suprheroes do not exist in the real world.

I don't plan on hummering anyone, dude.

jag

 

[Eros]

I don't plan on hummering anyone, dude.

jag

Kiss my bum bum!

 

[Qwerty©]

The question is, why hasn't anyone tried being a costumed vigilante in the UK? No guns here.

I do not believe a costumed vigilante would ever be as successful as the ones in comic books though, unless someone finds a way of getting superpowers.

 

[jaguarr]

Kiss my bum bum!

I'm not tossing any salads, either.

jag

 

[Apollo]

sorry...I'm still working on my costume..

 

[Venom.Symbiote]

I understand that its illegal (vigilantism) but sometimes doing things legally isn't going to work. How often do criminals get away with stuff because the police don't have evidence of their wrongdoings even though everyone knows they are guilty as sin? Prime example is Al Capone. If he hadn't been arrested for tax evasion he probably wouldn't have been arrested for anything even though everyone knew what he did. Sometimes criminals need to be taken out without the help of the law. It would have to be quick with no collateral damage. You'd also have to get the leaders first, there's a reason why the're the head guy. Take them out and things fall apart, at least for a little while anyway.

 

[Cmill216]

http://www.worldsuperheroregistry.com/world_superhero_registry_maine.htm

 

[Venom.Symbiote]

Of course. If some dumbass breaks into a house, the home-owner has every right to shoot, if they own a firearm.

The only legalities that arise would be if that firearm isn't registered, if that home-owner has a gun license, and if the intruder wasn't inside the house if he was killed.

Yes but with the laws being what they are, the intruder would probably be able to sue the homeowner. I remember hearing about a guy who was breaking into someone's home, fell through their skylight in the kitchen and hit a knife on the counter, (I don't know how it was positioned that it stabbed or cut him) he ended up suing the homeowners for his injuries. I think the laws protect criminals more than victims sometimes. I think that if you violate someone else's rights then you should lose yours.

 

[Golgo-13]

I understand that its illegal (vigilantism) but sometimes doing things legally isn't going to work. How often do criminals get away with stuff because the police don't have evidence of their wrongdoings even though everyone knows they are guilty as sin.....

Agreed.

Even a simple thing like forgetting to read a person their rights, or a slight technicality can get a criminal (even one caught with a smoking gun in his/her hand) off, scott free. I believe there a vigilantes out there, not trying to rid the world of ALL criminals so to speak, like Batman, but maybe just killing those that wronged him/her or someone in their family. There's a lot of unexplained killings in the news around the country, and most brush it off as a randomn killing, or a mugging gone wrong etc,etc..but i'm sure some of these deaths were due to a vigilnate dishing out his/her own form of justice.

 

[Cyrusbales]

well people can't just go out and fight crime, you need to know what you are doing, as in where the particular criminals are. Unlike the movie, when you go outside in the street, you can't exactly find criminals like in video games etc.

If you were in possession of files and locations of these criminals, then perhaps you'd be more encouraged.....

 

[Dorian Gray]

**** Daredevil

 

[mrvlknight21]

Of course. If some dumbass breaks into a house, the home-owner has every right to shoot, if they own a firearm.

The only legalities that arise would be if that firearm isn't registered, if that home-owner has a gun license, and if the intruder wasn't inside the house if he was killed.

Depends on the state you live in actually.

 

[Addendum]

Yes but with the laws being what they are, the intruder would probably be able to sue the homeowner.

I'm not talking about a dumb criminal crashing through a skylight.

I'm talking specifically about a guy breaks in, and the homeowner draws his firearm, and shoots and kills the intruder.

If the homeowner obtained his firearm legally, has the proper license for a firearm, and the criminal was inside the home when he was killed, the homeowner faces no criminal charges.

If the firearm the homeowner used wasn't legal, and/or doesn't have a license for a firearm- then yes, the homeowner can face criminal charges

 

[Darthphere]

Not every city has kids with guns.

And as I said before, if a vigilante were serious and were smart he wouldn't just skulk about waiting for **** to happen, jumping at guys without knowing if they're armed or not.

I watched a movie called Dead Man's Shoes. Excellent movie, I recommend people watch it. Download it if you have to. Awesome movie. Well, its about this guy who comes home from the Army, the movie hints that he's either ex-paratrooper or ex-SAS. And his mentally disabled brother had been abused by a local gang. So the guy systematically takes them out vigilante style. He does it in a smart way. It's one of the things that makes me wonder "how come this **** never actually happens?".

Movies aren't real.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Not every city has kids with guns.

If you're in a city, and you have crime worth stopping...then yes, those "kids" will be carrying guns.

 

[Darthphere]

If you're in a city, and you have crime worth stopping...then yes, those "kids" will be carrying guns.

Kids dont carry guns, guns carry kids.

 

[GoldenAgeHero]

oh darth, you're so wittah!

 

[Harlekin]

Media actively keep this out of the news to avoid copycats. Not only is vigilantism illegal, half of the vigilantes end up with a bullet between the eyes.