Batman Begins Why do people dislike the 3rd act so much?

[El Payaso]

Not really. Wouldn't have to have seen Wayne Tech's applied science department to believe they have one. It's not even Lucius that explains about the Emitter to the audience. It's some random board member guy who explains it to Earle when he tells him about the theft.

I'm a believer that not everything has to be spoon fed to the audience. It certainly wouldn't have hurt the Microwave Emitter plot if we had not seen Applied Sciences, IMO.

Which reminds me... I seem to remember that Fox himkself gave the same explanation about the microwave emitter than the random board member. And I mean the exact same, word by word, like... like there was a writer behind the whole thing.

 

[Travesty]

Which reminds me... I seem to remember that Fox himkself gave the same explanation about the microwave emitter than the random board member. And I mean the exact same, word by word, like... like there was a writer behind the whole thing.

No, it wasn't even close to being "word for word". The boardroom guy gave a full explanation, which he narrates how one of their cargo ships went missing, and that one of the microwave emitters was on it, and was stolen when it was turned on. Then, Mr. Earle went down to ask Fox what 47B1ME(the microwave emitter)is/what it does, and Fox explained what it is, and how the army didn't really use it, and of course, asked if he lost one. He then got fired. Afterwords, he explained to Bruce how the poison could be vaporized by a microwave emitter, the very one that was stolen.

The only thing that was 'similar', was that boardroom guy and Fox said the machine was used to vaporize enemy water supplies....that's it. Not a "word for word" explanation.

 

[sanjuanslasher]

Batman begins is clearly grittier and more comic book-like compared to its sequel TDK. Which, personally, I think Nolan made it more of his own.

 

[The Joker]

Batman begins is clearly grittier and more comic book-like compared to its sequel TDK. Which, personally, I think Nolan made it more of his own.

Ummm, that's not really the topic of my thread. We're discussing why the third act gets so much flak.

I don't agree with you either, btw

 

[Harry_Lime02]

I honestly thought the 3rd act was the best bit.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

It's out of sync with the rest of the film. The first two acts are like some super-serious melodrama, then the final comes off like Sam Raimi's Spider-Man. Not that I hate either the first two acts or the final climax, just that they seem like two entirely different kinds of films. I personally think Batman's origin is better left explored over the course of many, many movies. I think Batman Begins diminished the Bat-man legacy quite a bit. To me Batman Begins almost made the conclusion that "ninja=Batman". His ninja training definitely has it's importance, but Batman is not some master's apprentice, he developed his OWN method that was superior to the methods of others. He sought out masters to teach him skills he found or thought necessary for his journey. Furthermore in "Batman Begins" it's almost as if they had spell out everything he had learned. I completely disagree. I personally, for example, love in B89 when Knox and Vale wander into Bruce's trophy room. The movie shows Bruce had been and seen many things, without actually showing all he had seen and done. So we knew Bruce was a very cultured and learned person without actually spelling out all of, or most of, his origin.

I think Batman Begins could've either focused more on Batman's first mission (the third act), or more on his journey (the first two). I appreciate what they tried to do, but I feel it might have been too ambitious.

 

[The Joker]

It's out of sync with the rest of the film. The first two acts are like some super-serious melodrama, then the final comes off like Sam Raimi's Spider-Man. Not that I hate either the first two acts or the final climax, just that they seem like two entirely different kinds of films. I personally think Batman's origin is better left explored over the course of many, many movies. I think Batman Begins diminished the Bat-man legacy quite a bit. To me Batman Begins almost made the conclusion that "ninja=Batman". His ninja training definitely has it's importance, but Batman is not some master's apprentice, he developed his OWN method that was superior to the methods of others. He sought out masters to teach him skills he found or thought necessary for his journey. Furthermore in "Batman Begins" it's almost as if they had spell out everything he had learned. I completely disagree. I personally, for example, love in B89 when Knox and Vale wander into Bruce's trophy room. The movie shows Bruce had been and seen many things, without actually showing all he had seen and done. So we knew Bruce was a very cultured and learned person without actually spelling out all of, or most of, his origin.

I think Batman Begins could've either focused more on Batman's first mission (the third act), or more on his journey (the first two). I appreciate what they tried to do, but I feel it might have been too ambitious.

Good post