Transformers Why does the "black guy" always die first in a movie?

[tekken]

the transformers are organic...arent they?

 

[Avangarde]

Nope

 

[Hotwire]

jazz wasn't black, he was silver wasn't he??

According to the Pontiac website, the color is called, "Sly."

 

[Prolific]

Bonecrusher was Black?

-TNC

Of Course Bonecrushers black t:

'I AINT NEVER SCARED!!!!!!!'

 

[Figs]

Thanx, cosmicherosa. Are you speakin' about the "college preppy rick jack*sses" like in Animal House? And sorry if i missed it, which movie was your favorite.




Both of these are filed under "D*mn Shame", with Soul Plane... But I see there's room to discuss this later, so I'll wait.


Yeah, I know. But an interesting point was brought up which lead to others and i guess we just had at it... :P

What I was saying in my previous post still applies to this though. There were some people who were offended by Jar-Jar in the latest Star Wars movies. Not just because he was downright annoying, but because some say he resembled the "scarred, annoying, troublesome character" usually reserved for blacks in minstrel shows. I know someone just said, "What?!" but its true. And this is what many people get offended by when they have to see actual black actors in rediculous roles that perpetuate stereotypes. I'd mention Flavor of Love, but one could argue, "well, that really WAS Flava in the show. He wasn't 'acting'..."


Haha, i'd said in my previous post, someone would drop these names. Then, i also mentioned that for every "respectable" role for them, there's an entire cast of movies like Phat Girlz, to refute them. And you think these characters didn't have to pay certain "dues" to get there. I'd argue Halley wouldn't have garnered her precious oscar if she didn't #@$!# hardcore on screen like she did. And Denzel won his Oscar for portraying what, An Angry Corrupt Black Man...

Denzel has said, he's really wanted to do a romantic movie. I'd say his charisma and charm would work wonderfully. The Preacher's Wife was a wonderful example of that. But since then there's been few movies he's acted in where he hasn't held a gun. Or yelled in anger. (Remeber the Titans and... uh...).


YES!!! Everybody should watch this movie. Especially before trying to say people can make certain choices in Hollywood.


Throught history, there has always been someone to take the role. Someone needs the money. Just like when a group decides to go on strike, the employer can chose to find someone to fill their place. Its easier in Hollywood where people are looking for opportunities. Some of our greatest actors and actresses have taken roles they've verbally regretted to get to where they are now.


Mmm... Maybe like Gunmetal Grey? Lol.


Thank you. I was telling a friend, that I was really starting to dig Anderson as an actor after playing (ironically) a really tough Ganglord on The Sheild. When I'd first heard about it, I didn't think "the guy from Kangaroo Jack" could pull it off. Boy did he. I saw that he could really "act"! I'm even more excited to see he's going to STAR in his own tv Drama on FOX and pray that its actually good and doesn't deserve to be cancelled after the third episode. But when I saw him this time, I sighed outloud.


No. At some point, actors are able to choose which roles they can be in. But sometimes they can't. Sometimes movies are custome made as vehicles for a specific actor (like Katie Holmes' in Batman: Begins). But when it comes to black romance movies, the whole scene is a mess. Hollywood believes (and Will Smith apparently agrees with this) that audiences won't go out to see a romance movie with two black lead characters. They believe that because they're not "represented", some white audiences won't invest their money into the film. I think sometimes it comes down to the quality of the story, but from what I've seen, I sadly agree with this too.

Back to "representation". The fact that Anderson was acting a complete fool, playing playstation and whatnot wouldn't have been too much of a problem if I'd felt the other characters of color had served up better representations. Tyrese yelled and played basketball. Jazz danced a jig then said something "offensive". Amaury Nolasco served no great purpose as a Latino character. Bernie yelled at his grandma. Anthony Anderson yelled at his grandma.


I don't think anyone was really saying the creators of this movie had it in mind to put down any race. I think the problem is that the creators didn't take in consideration that their cookie-cutter characters could possibly offend someone.

I mean, John Voight's character bothered me! Lol, after a point, i realized his character served no purpose greater than offering redundant information and demands, "Get those boys here NOW!" (as if that wasn't the plan). <Not the greatest example, but he was a pretty bad leader...

*Sorry for any misspellings. I'm at work and don't have time to proofread and whatnot. Oh and sorry if this got long-winded. ...There's no good excuse for that unfortunately.

I gotta head to work so in short.......no one holds them at gun point to take those roles. As far as mocking the point where I brought up those actors I mentioned, their the proof that your not entirely right. Don't even start with the their black and yelling at their mom/grandma..........not just black people would do that, take your one sided head out of your ass. My best friend that I grew up with (who is white) always yelled and cussed out his mom and grandma. We are your typical white kids from suburbia......it's not a ****ing black thing. That is extremely stretching your argument. I do believe their is a lot of type casting, same can be said about people of any color including whites. You get some white guy who only gets comedys because that's what he originally was good at, or look at Statham, he's typecast for only action films. I don't see any white people crying about it. As for Denzel playing a corrupt cop................ watch Copland. I think all the corrupt cops in that were white, not to mention there are plenty of other movies about corrupt cops, ones that aren't all black.

 

[CFlash]

I gotta head to work so in short.......no one holds them at gun point to take those roles. As far as mocking the point where I brought up those actors I mentioned, their the proof that your not entirely right. Don't even start with the their black and yelling at their mom/grandma..........not just black people would do that, take your one sided head out of your ass. My best friend that I grew up with (who is white) always yelled and cussed out his mom and grandma. We are your typical white kids from suburbia......it's not a ****ing black thing. That is extremely stretching your argument. I do believe their is a lot of type casting, same can be said about people of any color including whites. You get some white guy who only gets comedys because that's what he originally was good at, or look at Statham, he's typecast for only action films. I don't see any white people crying about it. As for Denzel playing a corrupt cop................ watch Copland. I think all the corrupt cops in that were white, not to mention there are plenty of other movies about corrupt cops, ones that aren't all black.

I think you missed his whole point of TB's post. Nobody is saying there is no such thing as a corrupt white cop. Nobody is saying black people are the only ones yelling at their grandma either. The point is that many people have thought for a long long time that Denzel deserved an Oscar way way way before that... for his brilliant work as Malcolm X, for instance (among many). Forest Whittaker wins for playing a violent African but not for his role in Crying Game or for directing Waiting to Exhale. Why?

Nobody is saying that things haven't improved. I thought Will Smith was awesome in I Robot... paying it straight-up (non-cartoony). And he looks like he'll be good in I Am Legend. I brought it up before, but IMHO you only need look at a show like Heroes and feel a pang in your heart when you think "man! why can't more movies- especially blockbusters- be like this?!"

I get the sense that this is something that will just forever "go over people's heads." Nobody is crying... nobody is saying this is the end of the world... some people just realize that things aren't as perfect as you think. Some of it Hollywood's fault. Some of it is the actor's faults for taking the roles. And some of it is your fault for actually buying into it and not getting it.

After years of being a cartoon, Eddie Murphy tries to play it straight-up in Boomerang (one of my fave movies when I was younger) but gets panned and is back making crap like Norbit. Now he's best known for being a donkey (never mind that he gets no credit for being the one who actually shopped Shrek around and pushed for it for years).

I wholeheartedly agree with TB that Hollywood Shuffle is a required prerequisite before discussing this whole subject. The problem is that you don't want to believe that these cartoons are stereotypes... that black people for the most part are idiots like Anthony Anderson in Transformers. It's funny, right?! It gets tiresome after a while.

 

[Figs]

I think you missed his whole point of TB's post. Nobody is saying there is no such thing as a corrupt white cop. Nobody is saying black people are the only ones yelling at their grandma either. The point is that many people have thought for a long long time that Denzel deserved an Oscar way way way before that... for his brilliant work as Malcolm X, for instance (among many). Forest Whittaker wins for playing a violent African but not for his role in Crying Game or for directing Waiting to Exhale. Why?

Nobody is saying that things haven't improved. I thought Will Smith was awesome in I Robot... paying it straight-up (non-cartoony). And he looks like he'll be good in I Am Legend. I brought it up before, but IMHO you only need look at a show like Heroes and feel a pang in your heart when you think "man! why can't more movies- especially blockbusters- be like this?!"

I get the sense that this is something that will just forever "go over people's heads." Nobody is crying... nobody is saying this is the end of the world... some people just realize that things aren't as perfect as you think. Some of it Hollywood's fault. Some of it is the actor's faults for taking the roles. And some of it is your fault for actually buying into it and not getting it.

After years of being a cartoon, Eddie Murphy tries to play it straight-up in Boomerang (one of my fave movies when I was younger) but gets panned and is back making crap like Norbit. Now he's best known for being a donkey (never mind that he gets no credit for being the one who actually shopped Shrek around and pushed for it for years).

I wholeheartedly agree with TB that Hollywood Shuffle is a required prerequisite before discussing this whole subject. The problem is that you don't want to believe that these cartoons are stereotypes... that black people for the most part are idiots like Anthony Anderson in Transformers. It's funny, right?! It gets tiresome after a while.

I don't think anything is perfect so don't put words, thoughts or whatever else in my mouth. I agree that Denzel should have won for something else other than Training Day but hey most of the awards shows are bull**** anyway. As far as Forrest winning for a "violent african" but not in a movie like The Crying Game, I believe your just seeing things, everyone sees something different out of everything. I did enjoy seeing Will Smith in I, Robot as a more serious character other than just being in comedic roles. As for the Eddie Murphy in Boomerang, if there was a reason why that movie got panned it was because it was simply about hooking up with woman. It's because he started out in comedy, that's what people know him from as well as like him in. Same with Jim Carrey, he's white and same thing happened. Most people I know didn't care for his serious roles they wanted another Ace Ventura or whatever. He does a few serious movies and his fame starts to sink, does Bruce Almight and he's on top for awhile until he does another serious film Number 23. I don't see how Anthony Anderson's character is an idiot in Transformers when he seems to be a major hacker. The part with the donuts was just him messing with the girl and being nervous since the FBI of all people had him. I don't see black people as idiots, this is like the 7th time and Last with you and the arguments we've had were you try to assume **** and put words in my mouth. I don't need to see Hollywood shuffle to have a legitimate argument on this topic. That movie is fairly old, I don't believe it's as bad as it was then.

 

[CFlash]

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Not meaning to put words in your mouth figman. I apologize. I just think you missed some good points in TB's post.

As for thinking Hollywood Shuffle is outdated without ever seeing and thinking stuff is "better" nowadays, well that's really a matter of perspective.... and experience......

I do think some things are better. But I also think a lot of the stereotypes have become adopted by mainstream and "made OK." Ghetto stereotypes have been adopted by white kids... great!.... except (and I've seen this personally MANY times), of course, when they have to show up to court or go for a job interview dressed in a suit and they can *shed* that persona right as rain. Whereas black kids sometimes can't. Or when you they do, they're still made fun behind their backs for other reasons (who does that guy think he is? President Palmer?).

I mean, really, how many people actually understand why Dave Chappelle quit? I love Chappelle... I think he's a genius... but it was obvious he was way more popular with my white friends than my black friends... and the stuff they laughed at was just.... I dunno... odd. To this day I don't understand why the Rick James skit- though funny- was so much more popular than (the much funnier IMHO) Prince skit. It just goes to show you what white people laugh at.

 

[GhostPoet]

I'm not gonna read this whole thread....but I will say that I believe Hollywood really does create a lot of steretypes in films. when was the last time you saw a black character used for more than his brawn? Where are the really smart ones? Yes...you have President Palmer...and...er....maybe a couple others.

but they tend to be used mainly for comedy relief, the big guns or the one who dies to show the situation is grim.

But I don't think it's completely hollywoods fault for creating those stereotypes either. I think people get that assumption because many black men in REAL life don't seem to act all that different from their hollywood stereotypes. Take a look at 10 rap videos in a role...they are ALL THE SAME. Thuggin' and Pimpin'. That right there is a stereotype...but one that was made BY black men.

All in all...I think the stereotypical black man was created BY black men who choose to be or act uneducated...and then Hollywood just feeds off that.

 

[Figs]

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Not meaning to put words in your mouth figman. I apologize. I just think you missed some good points in TB's post.

As for thinking Hollywood Shuffle is outdated without ever seeing and thinking stuff is "better" nowadays, well that's really a matter of perspective.... and experience......

I do think some things are better. But I also think a lot of the stereotypes have become adopted by mainstream and "made OK." Ghetto stereotypes have been adopted by white kids... great!.... except (and I've seen this personally MANY times), of course, when they have to show up to court or go for a job interview dressed in a suit and they can *shed* that persona right as rain. Whereas black kids sometimes can't. Or when you they do, they're still made fun behind their backs for other reasons (who does that guy think he is? President Palmer?).

I mean, really, how many people actually understand why Dave Chappelle quit? I love Chappelle... I think he's a genius... but it was obvious he was way more popular with my white friends than my black friends... and the stuff they laughed at was just.... I dunno... odd. To this day I don't understand why the Rick James skit- though funny- was so much more popular than (the much funnier IMHO) Prince skit. It just goes to show you what white people laugh at.

Actually, believe it or not I agree and found the Prince skit waaaaay funnier then the Rick James crap. C'mon, making someone pancakes after you whooped their ass at basketball LOL. As well as the chest up scene where he slam dunks and hovers for awhile staring at the screen, had me rolling. I think it was the whole "I'm Rick James, *****!" tagline that made it popular with a lot of fools. Me being white, I am actually sickened and disgusted with how, so many fake ass mother****ers pretend to be from the ghetto because it's the "cool" thing . I personally think it's brought our society down quite a few pegs and needs to die out. Sometimes I see people in our society and truly believe we are de-evolving. It's morons like that, from the ghetto and the wannabes, with the whole "don't hate the playa, hate the game" crap that have quickly moved our society down the drain faster with increased teen pregnancies and ******* living on welfare because they were irresponsible and think it's cool to be.

I don't think there is as much 'behind the back' **** talking anymore. Not saying there isn't any at all, just not as much. I believe a black, or hispanic for example, could show up to a job interview or court dressed nicely and walk away without having people talk crap in most cases. Not all but a lot more than the past decades. It mainly comes down to if they happen to use to much slang as well. Some people will give you less respect if you can't speak proper english.

 

[blind_fury]

The real reason they killed off the symboite.

 

[Figs]

I'm not gonna read this whole thread....but I will say that I believe Hollywood really does create a lot of steretypes in films. when was the last time you saw a black character used for more than his brawn? Where are the really smart ones? Yes...you have President Palmer...and...er....maybe a couple others.

but they tend to be used mainly for comedy relief, the big guns or the one who dies to show the situation is grim.

But I don't think it's completely hollywoods fault for creating those stereotypes either. I think people get that assumption because many black men in REAL life don't seem to act all that different from their hollywood stereotypes. Take a look at 10 rap videos in a role...they are ALL THE SAME. Thuggin' and Pimpin'. That right there is a stereotype...but one that was made BY black men.

All in all...I think the stereotypical black man was created BY black men who choose to be or act uneducated...and then Hollywood just feeds off that.

Exactly!! It's ignorant to think all black people act like that, but the fact is so damn many have that it created the stereotype. That goes for just about all stereotypes, they were created for a reason. Some large percentage of a certain group were saying or doing something that people noticed over a long period of time and a "stereotype" came out of it.

 

[CFlash]

Exactly!! It's ignorant to think all black people act like that, but the fact is so damn many have that it created the stereotype. That goes for just about all stereotypes, they were created for a reason. Some large percentage of a certain group were saying or doing something that people noticed over a long period of time and a "stereotype" came out of it.

But it's the "selective" noticing of this stereotype that hurts. Sure, that hispanic over there... his mom is a cleaning lady. And the movies show that (all the f***time). That's fine. But how many show that cleaning lady's son is a successful software developer and not a cartoon? Not many. Same goes for this movie... why wasn't Anthony Anderson part of those (3 floors? they said) of programmers working for the defense dept? Why wasn't he in college at least? The establishment picks and chooses what they want to hone in on.

As for stuff being better now... that you keep saying.... I dunno about that. I kinda long for The Cosby Show and the days before Michael Jackson went crazy, Mike Tyson went crazy, before Mariah became a **** and, when Dela Soul and Public Enemy ruled before corporations seized the Hip Hop movement and the Eddie Murphy "stereotype" (which now seems benign) seemed to be the worst of our problems. From my POV, stuff hasn't changed much at all. In fact, I'll take I'm Gonna Git You Sucka and In Living Color over Soul Plane any day.

 

[Figs]

But it's the "selective" noticing of this stereotype that hurts. Sure, that hispanic over there... his mom is a cleaning lady. And the movies show that (all the f***time). That's fine. But how many show that cleaning lady's son is a successful software developer and not a cartoon? Not many. Same goes for this movie... why wasn't Anthony Anderson part of those (3 floors? they said) of programmers working for the defense dept? Why wasn't he in college at least? The establishment picks and chooses what they want to hone in on.

As for stuff being better now... that you keep saying.... I dunno about that. I kinda long for The Cosby Show and the days before Michael Jackson went crazy, Mike Tyson went crazy, before Mariah became a **** and, when Dela Soul and Public Enemy ruled before corporations seized the Hip Hop movement and the Eddie Murphy "stereotype" (which now seems benign) seemed to be the worst of our problems. From my POV, stuff hasn't changed much at all. In fact, I'll take I'm Gonna Git You Sucka and In Living Color over Soul Plane any day.

That's one problem with the argument right there though. I remember watching In Living Color and I actually own I'm Gonna Git You Sucka. With those two in mind, it goes to the whole..........well it's ok if Black people want to use these stereotypes against themselves but not ok for someone else for the sake of humour??? As for Anthony Andersons' character, he was clearly a hacker. I don't believe the government would trust an illegal hacker. If you want to argue against the he was a hacker thing, well I don't see why he would be excited to find out its extremely illegal not to mention has a program that can run what was on the chip. I never saw Soul Plane but it was in the same vein as Barbershop and Carwash, they were made prominently by black people. I believe it was Story who did the FF movies that also did Barbershop....or it could have been Carwash. If your implying that Soul Plane was crap filled with stereotypes(like I said, never seen it.) it just goes back to the argument that certain people of that group are the ones keeping those dumb stereotypes about their people alive anyway.

 

[XXTBWCXX]

African Americans should really stop using the term "The black guy always die first."

It's really not the case at all, I mean...Optimus Prime can't die in the first movie, Ironhide was too b-a and the veteran-type soldier needed to stay alive, Bumblebee can't die because he needs to stay as Sam's guardian, and Ratchet needed to live because he of course fixed up BB's legs.

Hey, Anthony Anderson lived, but he probably won't be in the sequel which sucks, cuz I like that guy.

I'm gonna watch his new series K-Ville.

 

[LostSon88]

Epps (Tyrese) survived also.

 

[partypooper]

probably cause he is easier to see

 

[TrueBeliever]

Of Course Bonecrushers black t:

'I AINT NEVER SCARED!!!!!!!'

LOL...

I gotta head to work so in short.......no one holds them at gun point to take those roles. As far as mocking the point where I brought up those actors I mentioned, their the proof that your not entirely right. Don't even start with the their black and yelling at their mom/grandma..........not just black people would do that, take your one sided head out of your ass. My best friend that I grew up with (who is white) always yelled and cussed out his mom and grandma. We are your typical white kids from suburbia......it's not a ****ing black thing. That is extremely stretching your argument. I do believe their is a lot of type casting, same can be said about people of any color including whites. You get some white guy who only gets comedys because that's what he originally was good at, or look at Statham, he's typecast for only action films. I don't see any white people crying about it. As for Denzel playing a corrupt cop................ watch Copland. I think all the corrupt cops in that were white, not to mention there are plenty of other movies about corrupt cops, ones that aren't all black.

I think you missed his whole point of TB's post. Nobody is saying there is no such thing as a corrupt white cop. Nobody is saying black people are the only ones yelling at their grandma either. The point is that many people have thought for a long long time that Denzel deserved an Oscar way way way before that... for his brilliant work as Malcolm X, for instance (among many). Forest Whittaker wins for playing a violent African but not for his role in Crying Game or for directing Waiting to Exhale. Why?

Nobody is saying that things haven't improved. I thought Will Smith was awesome in I Robot... paying it straight-up (non-cartoony). And he looks like he'll be good in I Am Legend. I brought it up before, but IMHO you only need look at a show like Heroes and feel a pang in your heart when you think "man! why can't more movies- especially blockbusters- be like this?!"

I get the sense that this is something that will just forever "go over people's heads." Nobody is crying... nobody is saying this is the end of the world... some people just realize that things aren't as perfect as you think. Some of it Hollywood's fault. Some of it is the actor's faults for taking the roles. And some of it is your fault for actually buying into it and not getting it.

After years of being a cartoon, Eddie Murphy tries to play it straight-up in Boomerang (one of my fave movies when I was younger) but gets panned and is back making crap like Norbit. Now he's best known for being a donkey (never mind that he gets no credit for being the one who actually shopped Shrek around and pushed for it for years).

I wholeheartedly agree with TB that Hollywood Shuffle is a required prerequisite before discussing this whole subject. The problem is that you don't want to believe that these cartoons are stereotypes... that black people for the most part are idiots like Anthony Anderson in Transformers. It's funny, right?! It gets tiresome after a while.

I don't think anything is perfect so don't put words, thoughts or whatever else in my mouth. I agree that Denzel should have won for something else other than Training Day but hey most of the awards shows are bull**** anyway. As far as Forrest winning for a "violent african" but not in a movie like The Crying Game, I believe your just seeing things, everyone sees something different out of everything. I did enjoy seeing Will Smith in I, Robot as a more serious character other than just being in comedic roles. As for the Eddie Murphy in Boomerang, if there was a reason why that movie got panned it was because it was simply about hooking up with woman. It's because he started out in comedy, that's what people know him from as well as like him in. Same with Jim Carrey, he's white and same thing happened. Most people I know didn't care for his serious roles they wanted another Ace Ventura or whatever. He does a few serious movies and his fame starts to sink, does Bruce Almight and he's on top for awhile until he does another serious film Number 23. I don't see how Anthony Anderson's character is an idiot in Transformers when he seems to be a major hacker. The part with the donuts was just him messing with the girl and being nervous since the FBI of all people had him. I don't see black people as idiots, this is like the 7th time and Last with you and the arguments we've had were you try to assume **** and put words in my mouth. I don't need to see Hollywood shuffle to have a legitimate argument on this topic. That movie is fairly old, I don't believe it's as bad as it was then.

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Not meaning to put words in your mouth figman. I apologize. I just think you missed some good points in TB's post.

As for thinking Hollywood Shuffle is outdated without ever seeing and thinking stuff is "better" nowadays, well that's really a matter of perspective.... and experience......

I do think some things are better. But I also think a lot of the stereotypes have become adopted by mainstream and "made OK." Ghetto stereotypes have been adopted by white kids... great!.... except (and I've seen this personally MANY times), of course, when they have to show up to court or go for a job interview dressed in a suit and they can *shed* that persona right as rain. Whereas black kids sometimes can't. Or when you they do, they're still made fun behind their backs for other reasons (who does that guy think he is? President Palmer?).

I mean, really, how many people actually understand why Dave Chappelle quit? I love Chappelle... I think he's a genius... but it was obvious he was way more popular with my white friends than my black friends... and the stuff they laughed at was just.... I dunno... odd. To this day I don't understand why the Rick James skit- though funny- was so much more popular than (the much funnier IMHO) Prince skit. It just goes to show you what white people laugh at.

Sorry, I don't have much time to respond. ...At all. But CFlash has been on point here, I don't need to say too much more.

And I see where you're coming from on some points, FigmanJ, but wish there were a better way to explain what I'm trying to... uh, explain. But maybe this'll help:

Please watch these selections from Hollywood Shuffle (i hope i'm allowed to post these...):
[There's some choice language here, but i've seen we're all adults here]
http://youtube.com/watch?v=y3NQB3i_MSQ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kFrcEGlON-g

Excelsior!

 

[Mr. Socko]

Fat Joe should have voiced an autobot

 

[CFlash]

Fat Joe should have voiced an autobot

Heh he. At least Fat Joe knows how to properly and convincingly speak spanglish... unlike Amaury Nolasco (the dude in the beginning of Transformers) who seems to have attended the New Yorican Acting School of Connecticut. I mean, the guy speaks English perfectly, attended the American British Dramatic Arts School... and what's he doing? Dumb con in Prison Break? Ha. Hollywood Shuffle indeed.

 

[Venomfan]

i took this from IMDB, according to this Bumblebee was actually the black one lol

Here it is again. If people can use stereotypes to point out why jazz is black, i should be able to do the same to show how bumblebee was black. If they do not let it stand, then iMDB is a hypocrite site!!!




1. We first see Bumblebee as a beat up old a$$ 70's car (a decent camaro, but still) and most black folk I know, especially the younger ones in my town, roll in late 60's to late 70's GM cars, granted they are Impalas and the like but, still old and busted looking.


2. Bumblebee speaks mostly through his radio and as you can hear, he must have one BOMB AZZ system since it is loud and has some bass. Like most black folk, he put more money into his sound system then what was put into the body to make it look good. Also, I thnk the longest song he plays is SEXUAL HEALING by MARVIN GAY!!! Also, he uses clips of UHURA, a black chick on star trek, 3 different times, and the speech about how he CAME FROM THE HEAVENS obviously sounded like a black southern minister.

3. After being made fun of, he rolls up on 2 wheels (pretending like hes got hydraulics maybe) and then scans another car (almost like car jacking it, a stretch, but so are most of the "jazz is blac" threads)


4. When prime introduces him, he starts shadow boxing to an 80's type rap song I believe (sounds like bring the pain but I forgot the name of the song)


5. After he saves sam and mikela from the overpass the prime drops them off of, he saves them and while just standing there, minding his business, sector 7 (aka the MAN) starts shooting him with harpoons and takes him down, then they procede to shoot him with liquid nitrogen (basically the same as using a nightstick, but the nightsticks would not have worked so they instead gave him a beat down with the liquid nitrogen, I was thinking Rodney King at this point) and then the essentially cuff him and take him to the hoover dam (jail)


6. While in the hoover damn, they start to torture him, like been flogged back in the 1800's. And while doing this, Jazz is asking prime to save him and Prime says no, he will have to fend for himself. Like in other movies, if the black man gets taken to jail, his white buddies wouldnt help him out, they would leave him there and basically say "Oh well, his bad for getting caught, if we get to him, we get to him"


7. When Sam gets Sector 7 to stop the torture, he automatically pulls a gun (he transforms his arm) and gets ready to shoot all the white men in the lab.


8. He gets his legs blown off and his own friend (jazz) doesnt even care enough to transform and help him out. Basically, it was like "Sorry brotha, you just f ucked up!!)


9. Mikella (who bumblebee also seems to like and lets face it, brothas like them some fine white women) attaches him to the back of a tow truck and then says "I'll drive, you shoot" and they go off and bumblebee knocks cars out of the way and starts to fire his arm cannon and hits Brawl with every shot. Do you see what this is?? ITS A F UCKING DRIVE BY!!! ONLY A BLACK MAN COULD HIT A TARGET ABOUT 100 FT AWAY WHILE DRIVING AT 60 MILES PER HOUR.


10. Finally , at the end where he says he wants to "Stay with the boy" in a white sounding high pitched voiced, my first thought was "Damn, thats like he sounds like and saying something like Michael Jackson would say" and since he was once black, that is another point.


So you see, 10 reasons why Bumblebee is the black autobot. Ok, more like 9 as the last one was a joke, but after you read this, you should realise that it was in fact Bumblebee, not jazz, who was the black autobot!!!

 

[dancing_on_fire]

i took this from IMDB, according to this Bumblebee was actually the black one lol

hahahaha that was good, makes many points

 

[Venomfan]

hahahaha that was good, makes many points

lol yah i think everyone here needs to give it a read

 

[ProfeZZor X]

lol yah i think everyone here needs to give it a read

Meh... most of those situations are clearly coincidence.

But, credit is given where it is due...

 

[Grinder]

ONLY A BLACK MAN COULD HIT A TARGET ABOUT 100 FT AWAY WHILE DRIVING AT 60 MILES PER HOUR.

LMAO

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You guys really take that sh^t way too serious. It's a silly toy movie with nice action.