The Fox hate is non-sensical, childish and hypocritical MCU fanboyism.
MCU fanboys delude themselves into thinking Marvel are perfect, comic accurate, respectful of the source material and only make the movies to please comic fans.
• The MCU is just as far removed from the source material as the XCU.
• Marvel is out to make money just like Fox, Sony and WB, they don't care anymore about the adaptions than others.
• Marvel has bastardised characters just as much as Fox.
Fox has been making X-Men movies for 13 years, thats 8 years longer than Marvel Studios, The XCU iis more established than the MCU.
Lets start at the beginning.
Marvel Enterprises sold the rights to their biggest characters to various movies studios as they were going bankrupt.
Fox didn't steal them by force, MARVEL sold them willingly to stay in business.
Why should Fox logically sell something they've been developing and are invested in for so long?
Without Fox and some other studios, but mainly Fox, and the money they paid Marvel for the characters, Marvel Comics may have gone under and wouldn't even have been able to start making movies.
Fox is indirectly responsible for the MCU coming to fruition.
Not only that but are responsible for kickstarting blockbuster Marvel movies, they and Bryan Singer were the first to bring iconic franchise marvel characters to the big screen and starting the genre.
Not all have been good, but Respect is due for their contributions to the genre, without them Marvel comics movies wouldn't be where they are now or possibly not at all.
Aside from that, lets look at the X-Men movies, their main focus.
4/6 are good to great movies, thats a 66% positive track record.
Disney is around 4/7 good to great movies, that's 57%.
So the X-Men movies have a better overall track record for quality than Disney. Now this is subjective based on individual opinion of movies but no matter how you shake it, it comes up at least even in good/bad movies.
MCU Fanboys complain about Fox bastardising and raping certain characters and claim Marvel would "do them right".
Well lets look at the differences of "correctly" adapted MCU characters and events:
• Jarvis is not an A.I but an actual Human butler.
• Red Skull wasn't created by Dr Erskine, he was trained by Hitler and given a Red Skull mask to invoke fear.
• Whiplash is bastardisation of Backlash and Crymson Dynamo with little resemblence to each character.
• Mandarin... you all know how that turned out.
• T'Challa gave the Vibranium Shield to Captain America not Howard Stark
• Steve Rogers didn't know Bucky Barnes before he became Captain America
• Jane Foster is a Nurse not a Scientist
• Antman and Wasp were among the founding members of The Avengers not Black Widow and Hawkeye.
• Aldrich Killian didn't form A.I.M he worked for Futurepharm, developed Extremis, sold a sample to some terrorists and feeling guilty killed himself
• Red Skull didn't use the Cosmic Cube in WW2
• Black Widow fought the Avengers and Iron Man long before joining them or SHIELD
• Thor isn't Thor the whole time. Odin placed his being into a disabled Medical Student Donald Blake, Blake found Mjoinir and transformed into Thor. He transforms back and forth and has this secret identity life too
• Heimdall and Sif and brother and sister in the Comics but not in the movies.
• SHIELD did not form the Avengers.
• Ultron was created by Hank Pym, aside from slapping his wife it's the only contribution he's made to the universe, they are taking that from him and giving it to Iron Man.
Disney is just as guilty of changing the comics for the screen. When you think of changing Ultrons origin a brillaint stroke but go nuts over changing an X-Men characters origin you are a bias hypocrite.
Fanboys claim that it's 'Wolverine and the X-Men' all the time and Marvel wouldn't do that.
Well the fact is that Wolverine is the most popular and bankable X-Man and is naturally the one to build the movies around.
Sound familiar?
That's because Marvel have done the same thing with Iron Man.
In just 5 years Tony Stark has made 5 appearances, thats one less than Wolverine over 13 years so to be sick of Wolverine taking the spotlight over 13 years and not sick of Iron Man taking the spotlight over less than half that time is hypocritical rubbish.
Let's look at The Avengers.
Who saved Captain Americas butt in Germany?
Who fought Thor?
Who walked ino the briefing and spelled out what the villain was looking for?
Who was the one to talk smack to the supposed leader?
Who was the one to believe in Banner being able to control the beast?
Who was the one to title them The Avengers and face down the villain all alone?
Who was the one to sacrificed himself at the end?
It sure as hell wasn't Captain America the supposed "leader" and main character of the team.
The Wolverine/Cyclops dynamic and screenhogging was played the same in the MCU with Iron Man/Captain America.
On to the costumes. Most don't like the costumes in the X-Men franchise, me included. But instead of asking why people just whine.
It's pretty clear. X-Men came right off of the Bat-Nipple campiness fiasco. Not only would the brightly coloured costume look odd in quite a grounded and serious movie but people weren't ready for such garish costumes. over time costumes became more colourful as the genre grew, but back in 2000 they'd have been laughed off the screen.
I'm a Marvel Characters fan, in the real world.
This means changing things doesn't bother me if they work better for the big screen.
I am open to ALL Marvel movies. ALL are valid, ALL have crappy movies in their record, ALL adapt and dilute the source material, ALL have good and bad attempts.
The people who don't consider non-MCU movie as "not really Marvel movies" aren't real marvel fans. It's the same as those who claim to be Batman fans but disregard everything except all mighty Nolan.
They're petty, ignorant pissants who need a reality check. and especially need to **** about rights and trying to make out that things are terrible before they have been even made or released.
i cant stand marvel studio fan boys they wont support fox super hero films because it is not marvel studios even tho x men first class was a really good film with stellar performances and i just got back from the wolverine and it was such a beautifully crafted film and jackman's best performance to date
why cant you just enjoy all marvel films i personally preferred wolverine to im3 and first class to thor and cap and even rise of the apes was one of my fav. movies from 2011
fox has directors like mangold,vaughn,singer all stellar directors with strong visions and directing ability but they wont support their work because it is not part of the mcu
Precisely, someone with common sense.