Transformers will Energon factor into the plot?

[Hypestyle]

in the old cartoons, the main subplot involved the mad dash to develop energon cubes, to refuel a return to cybertron...

anybody know if this figures into the live-movie plot at all? I guess my next question is, what type of power would these alien/robots need to keep going for centuries?

 

[Oerwinde]

I heard somewhere, possibly roberto orci but I'm not sure, that energon cubes will at least be mentioned in the film.

 

[Spark]

The Matrix was called the 'Energon Cube' but I think they dropped it.

I've not heard anything about actual Energon cubes though. The Transformers are looking for the Matrix and Megatron (in no particular order).

 

[TNC9852002]

Heh...Almost every episode had them preparing energon cubes... Those robots sure had determination.

-TNC

 

[Oerwinde]

The Matrix was called the 'Energon Cube' but I think they dropped it.

I've not heard anything about actual Energon cubes though. The Transformers are looking for the Matrix and Megatron (in no particular order).

Yeah, I'm not talking about the Matrix. Orci or someone recently mentioned that they managed to get energon cubes into the movie or something like that.

 

[TigerClaw]

If I remember correctly, Part of the movie will take place at a Dam, In the original cartoons, The Decepticons took over a dam and tried to flood a neighborhood while trying to create energon cubes. Basically the Decepticons were trying to use earth's energy resource to create energon cubes in order to power there spacecraft to head back to Cybertron.

 

[Oerwinde]

I think the Dam in this is a military base though.

 

[TigerClaw]

And I would guess they did something like try to take over the dam but the military being there is putting up a fight with them.

 

[Spark]

Yeah, I'm not talking about the Matrix. Orci or someone recently mentioned that they managed to get energon cubes into the movie or something like that.

Oh yeah, I remember that. It was just someone posting random quotes though IIRC and nothing to do with Roberto specifically. Assuming we're talking about the same guy/source.

And I would guess they did something like try to take over the dam but the military being there is putting up a fight with them.

Indeed. Megatron and the "Cube" are there (apparently), so yes.

Although I think the actual scrap moves on to a town, as depicted in the set leaks.

 

[Hotwire]

Energon could be factored into the movie, just not as cubes. Would be kind of wierd to see this real giant robot holding a glowing purple cube and then absorbing it into it's chest.

 

[TigerClaw]

But they would need something to contain the energy source, If not a cube, Then what?

 

[Oerwinde]

Energon could be factored into the movie, just not as cubes. Would be kind of wierd to see this real giant robot holding a glowing purple cube and then absorbing it into it's chest.

No no no, they didn't absorb them into their chest, Soundwave could create empty cubes from his chest. Energon is a liquid fuel, as evidenced by the transformers drinking it various times in the show.

:P

 

[MagicPrime]

Like said above, there were rumors of the Matrix being called "The Energon Cube." Me thinks that the reason this change was made - knowing how hollywood is, Warner Bros. or the Wachowski Bros. have a legal standpoint if the word "Matrix" even comes close to a movie screen in the next 20 years.

 

[Spark]

It's nothing to do with that, especially since Transformers used the 'Matrix' at various points during the last 20 years.

They just believe the audience will be confused over the TF Matrix and keanu's Matrix. Personally though, if someone's that dumb they probably shouldn't be allowed in enclosed public spaces for health & safety reasons.

 

[WalkingDead]

I imagine Energon will be used in a passing moment or two; referred to, maybe shown in one scene. But I highly doubt it will be used as a major plot point. The plot so far as we've heard is that the Transformers are after a form of the Creation Matrix (dubbed the "Energon Cube"** for the story) that has been lost here on Earth. Megatron is supposedly here too, captured by the military and being experimented on for the last several decades.

There will probably be a reference to the fact Earth could potentially produce high amounts of Energon, but as for the raiding of natural resources...I just don't see it happening in the first film.



**This name is more than likely just a Place Holder like the Decepticon Names. It has been rumored as such for a long while now that "Energon Cube" is not going to be the finalized name.

 

[Casius--J]

it should have some part in the plot, i mean the early episodes where about the rush to get energon cubes.

 

[WalkingDead]

it should have some part in the plot, i mean the early episodes where about the rush to get energon cubes.

This isn't G1. It's a new interpretation drawing on every TF storyline, toyline, and comic in some form. G1 is being used for the most amount of focus, but still the movie is using every TF continuity to some extent. So I highly doubt they'll touch much on the Energon race.

 

[MagicPrime]

It's nothing to do with that, especially since Transformers used the 'Matrix' at various points during the last 20 years.

They just believe the audience will be confused over the TF Matrix and keanu's Matrix. Personally though, if someone's that dumb they probably shouldn't be allowed in enclosed public spaces for health & safety reasons.

All the instances of the Transformers using the term "Matrix" have been on television shows on early saturday morning cartoons or syndicated on deep cable cartoon channels. A very diffrent venue than block-buster films. The average person can watch episode after episode of diffrent transformer shows over the era and by missing a handful of them miss any mention of the Matrix. In the world of Hollywood however, a second movie with the main theme or plot-point being an object called "The Matrix" would certianly rub the WB people the wrong way.

TV and Movies are two diffrent worlds.

 

[Oerwinde]

All the instances of the Transformers using the term "Matrix" have been on television shows on early saturday morning cartoons or syndicated on deep cable cartoon channels. A very diffrent venue than block-buster films. The average person can watch episode after episode of diffrent transformer shows over the era and by missing a handful of them miss any mention of the Matrix. In the world of Hollywood however, a second movie with the main theme or plot-point being an object called "The Matrix" would certianly rub the WB people the wrong way.

TV and Movies are two diffrent worlds.

The first TF mention of the Matrix was the movie, which had a wide release in theaters.

WB has no legal options to stop them from using the term Matrix. They don't want to use it because audiences are dumb and some people will be confused.

 

[The Guard]

Latino Review revealed in an early script review that the plot did indeed focus on the Autobots and Decepticons fighting over Energon resources.

 

[WalkingDead]

The first TF mention of the Matrix was the movie, which had a wide release in theaters.

Technically the first mention of the Matrix was in 1984 G1 Comics, before the movie was even planned.

 

[Spark]

Latino Review revealed in an early script review that the plot did indeed focus on the Autobots and Decepticons fighting over Energon resources.

Energon Cube aka The Matrix.

And they thought the latter would cause confusion.

 

[Anubis73]

This isn't G1. It's a new interpretation drawing on every TF storyline, toyline, and comic in some form. G1 is being used for the most amount of focus, but still the movie is using every TF continuity to some extent. So I highly doubt they'll touch much on the Energon race.

If this is true, that they are using every storyline, how do G.I Joe and Cobra fit into this?

Also when did Energon become a race?

 

[Oerwinde]

Technically the first mention of the Matrix was in 1984 G1 Comics, before the movie was even planned.

I figured that, but I meant more in TV and movies.

 

[WalkingDead]

If this is true, that they are using every storyline, how do G.I Joe and Cobra fit into this?

Also when did Energon become a race?

They are drawing something from every storyline. Megatron being experimented on happened in GI Joe vs. Transformers. It's still something that happened and gives predecent to that idea. It doesn't mean they use every single thing in the story, just pull something from each storyline. So far they're drawing on something from:
G1, G2, TF: Universe, Armada, Energon, Cybertron, G1 Comics, GI Joe vs. TF Comics, and Dreamwave Comics.


Energon - It's a race to see who can get the most, who can get enough to get back to Cybertron the fastest and best equipped, and who can be powered up enough to win the war. That's they way it was for the first little bit and at different points of the TF G1 Cartoon. That's why I referred to it as a race.