The Dark Knight Will TDK Show Off Batman's Detective Skills?

[spider-neil]

Did you even watch Batman '89? The dude figured out the Joker's poison scheme when the police and everyone else were clueless.

that was good I must admit but that movie was nearly 20 years ago.

 

[Batman>all]

Wasn't their a Bale interview where they asked him this exact question?

He sort of dodged it but hinting that "yes there would be"

 

[FlawlessVictory]

Jon Nolan pretty much said that the detective aspect would play a major part in this story.

Yup and...

Christian Bale: *sips on water* "Does that answer your question?"

yup.

I'm pretty sure we'll be seeing Bats in all his detective glory based on J. Nolan and Bale's reactions to certain questions.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

Wasn't their a Bale interview where they asked him this exact question?

He sort of dodged it but hinting that "yes there would be"

He responded with what Borat posted.

Christian Bale: *sips on water* "Does that answer your question?"

 

[Steelsheen]

Bale does a lot of water sipping in interviews.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

Bale does a lot of water sipping in interviews.

True, but he was being purposefully dodgy as he never really answered the question of him showing his detective skills in TDK.

 

[Steelsheen]

True, but he was being purposefully dodgy as he never really answered the question of him showing his detective skills in TDK.

yeah that's what i meant man

water sipping= no comment.

 

[The Kid]

Yeah I hope batman solves the problem this time with more than "just blow it up real good"

heh.

 

[The Kid]

There was in Batman Begins.



Yes there was in Batman Begins.



There was in Batman Begins. Why wouldn't there be any in The Dark Knight?



Wrong.

THOSE are the closest you've seen him to his science genuis and his brilliant mind.

Cracking a chemical code ISN'T detective work. Solving a bunch of brain shatter teasers ISN'T detective work. Seriously....if that's detective work, then I guess what REAL detectives do is kids playing games.



Yup. Correct, again, my friend.



Genuis was shown in B89 and BF. There was some detective work.....very very minimal, in BR.....when Bruce was trying to uncover the Penguin's past and so forth.

Detective work was in Batman Begins. The only thing they didn't hint at was Bruce's Genuis intellect.

He couldn't create an antidote b/c he was knocked out by the fear gas.

A little hard to do something when your dying and not awake.....but, Bat-God would find a way. I guess that's what everyone wants. Bat-God. The guy who does everything, never gets hurt, can defeat everyone without a sweat, and needs no explaining on how he does anything....because he is Bat-God.

bye hype. nice knowin ya.

 

[Borat]

water sipping= no comment.

lol, Bale is awesome. the next time my boss asks me to do something im gunna sip on water...then laugh and walk away.

 

[Memphis Slim]

Begins never really showed us any of the criminology skills that Batman should have nor any of his scientific knowledge. IT was Lucious Fox who developed the antidote to the Fear toxin---not Bruce. Heck.....Bruce didn't build the car or his suit. He modified some things but for the most part, it was Fox's genious on display...

Will Nolan give us some of the "Brain Power" of Batman in this one?

 

[Rezzo]

Jonathan Nolan indicated that the film will show more of Batman as a detective

 

[jimmy]

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=275693

 

[Batman FREAK]

Yeah I'm really hoping for something clever from Bruce/Batman the detective in this one. I know Nolan and Bale can deliver that probably better than anyone, and in a sophisticated, smart manner as well.

 

[Keyser Sushi]

Begins never really showed us any of the criminology skills that Batman should have nor any of his scientific knowledge. IT was Lucious Fox who developed the antidote to the Fear toxin---not Bruce. Heck.....Bruce didn't build the car or his suit. He modified some things but for the most part, it was Fox's genious on display...

Will Nolan give us some of the "Brain Power" of Batman in this one?

Let me ask you a very serious question, Memphis Slim.

What does developing antidotes and building cars have to do with detective skills?

 

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

He responded with what Borat posted.

Christian Bale: *sips on water* "Does that answer your question?"

You know he could be dodging it because, maybe there isn't .

 

[killingyouguy]

Sherlock would have caught the Joker just from the playing card at the end of BB.

Game over man! Game over!

Holmes FTW

 

[Borat]

You know he could be dodging it because, maybe there isn't .

lol thats possible too.

 

[ihavecomputer]

i'm curious if wayne will have a full-out bat lab in this one, or at least some place to do forensics / research.

 

[Sun_Down]

I'm sorry, but if anyone is honestly trying to suggest that Begins had legitimately showed Batman as "The World's Greatest Detective" is completely full of it. OK, he delivered some documents to the police. That's not sleuthing, that's being an informant. Batman did no more detective work in Begins than any run-of-the-mill action protagonist.

And I don't buy that "it's early in his career" crap. That's what he was supposed to be learning in the years before he became Batman. How's he supposed go from having no real sleuthing skills at all to "World's Greatest Detective" now? What, is he gonna take a night class at the community college?

 

[blind_fury]

are they going to even HINT at this in the new movie.
there have been 5 movies now and if I didn't read the comics I'd be none the wiser as to his genius.

no hint of his deductive reasoning
no hint of observational skills
no hint of his forensic skills
no gathering of clues

if there is ONE avenue I wish they'd explore for ONCE is the fact bats is supposed to put sherlock holmes to shame.

I agree. It's one of the most important aspects of the character.

I would prefer the make Batman too smart than seem too dumb.

 

[Batman>all]

one of my favorite batman detective scenes is the batman v dracula

first he figures out that dr. alucard is drac (dracula backwards)
then he uses a sample of the joker's blood to work out an antidote and it is great seeing him try sample after sample before he gets it right.
he then uses the sample to take down the vampires using martial arts skill.

there is another great moment in 'the batman' when the city has been turned into zombies and he uses pure reasoning to work out it is in fact 'HE' that is under the influence rather than than the populace of gothem.

freaking fantastic and that what's I want to see more of.
there is no mystery to the criminal its joker but it would be really good for batman to work out where he (joker) is stationed (as an example)

reading through the thread it seems people are more than content with the hints rather than seeing his skill in action, if that's how you feel fine but I personally would like to see it.

i remember that movie and episode

That animated series isn't bad, is it odd that I am 18 and watch that cartoon from time to time?

 

[bunk]

You should be watching them all the time.

 

[smatt584]

Batman's detective skills have been shown in B89, Batman Returns and Batman Begins. Even Batman Forever had more than a handful of scenes that showed how smart Bruce really is. Go watch the films again.

If these are the best examples of "Genius Detective", then you've just shown us all exactly why there needs to be a decent display of detective work in the next film.

Let's just hope Goyer and the Nolans can deliver on it. I think that with how much they borrow from The Long Halloween, they should have enough material to squeeze a decent little mystery in there somewhere. There should be a much more psychological batman movie out there, i think. We all know it can be done, and done beautifully. I just hope that someday they can push the superhero movie from action/adventure into the territory of drama without sacrificing the things that made the comics so enjoyable. I mean, comics are still technically literature, the only thrills i've received from comic books came with two things; action and emotion, both of which were strongly tied to the dialogue and the psychological tone that was set by it. The Action should only compliment the emotion.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

bye hype. nice knowin ya.

Bye bye. Send me a postcard.

It's not, by the way.....

I'm sorry, but if anyone is honestly trying to suggest that Begins had legitimately showed Batman as "The World's Greatest Detective" is completely full of it. OK, he delivered some documents to the police. That's not sleuthing, that's being an informant. Batman did no more detective work in Begins than any run-of-the-mill action protagonist.

Running surveillence, eavesdropping on criminals, interrogations, running down a lead to the narrows and getting evidence, while getting the evidence as well to put away Falcone at the Docks.

Yeah, Jean Cluade Van Damm does that ALL the time. So does Jackie Chan.

All the time.

There was Detective work in Batman Begins. More like THE WIRE and less like CSI.

Did he seem like the Greatest? No. Rookie, remember? It's not bull****, either....being a rookie counts.

The question is will there be MORE EMPHASIS ON THE DETECTIVE WORK IN THE DARK KNIGHT?

Yes. ****ing, yes.