The Dark Knight Will TDK Show Off Batman's Detective Skills?

[smatt584]

Damn, i hope you're right.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

If I'm wrong then....well, then I'll be the first one complaining.

Trust me, I have expectations as well as everyone else.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

Bye bye. Send me a postcard.

It's not, by the way.....



Running surveillence, eavesdropping on criminals, interrogations, running down a lead to the narrows and getting evidence, while getting the evidence as well to put away Falcone at the Docks.

Yeah, Jean Cluade Van Damm does that ALL the time. So does Jackie Chan.

All the time.

There was Detective work in Batman Begins. More like THE WIRE and less like CSI.

Did he seem like the Greatest? No. Rookie, remember? It's not bull****, either....being a rookie counts.

The question is will there be MORE EMPHASIS ON THE DETECTIVE WORK IN THE DARK KNIGHT?

Yes. ****ing, yes.

 

[Sun_Down]

Bye bye. Send me a postcard.

It's not, by the way.....



Running surveillence, eavesdropping on criminals, interrogations, running down a lead to the narrows and getting evidence, while getting the evidence as well to put away Falcone at the Docks.

Yeah, Jean Cluade Van Damm does that ALL the time. So does Jackie Chan.

All the time.

There was Detective work in Batman Begins. More like THE WIRE and less like CSI.

Did he seem like the Greatest? No. Rookie, remember? It's not bull****, either....being a rookie counts.

The question is will there be MORE EMPHASIS ON THE DETECTIVE WORK IN THE DARK KNIGHT?

Yes. ****ing, yes.

I'm fairly certain Jackie Chan did all that and more in Rush Hour, so your little joke kinda fails. The simple fact that so many people feel that this aspect was lacking should be a sign that it probably was in fact lacking.

 

[Memphis Slim]

Let me ask you a very serious question, Memphis Slim.

What does developing antidotes and building cars have to do with detective skills?

Nothing.....But Forensics....scientific know-how were missing from the film.

 

[Keyser Sushi]

Nothing.....But Forensics....scientific know-how were missing from the film.

That really doesn't bother me, but if it bothers you, mazzel tov.

But it's funny how the first post in this thread has *nothing* to do with the thread title.

 

[Memphis Slim]

That really doesn't bother me, but if it bothers you, mazzel tov.

But it's funny how the first post in this thread has *nothing* to do with the thread title.

That's cool.
Ya'll have a nice day.

I still want to see a little more of this side of the Batman.

 

[Keyser Sushi]

That's cool.
Ya'll have a nice day.

I still want to see a little more of this side of the Batman.

Why are you saying "ya'll" when there's only one of me?

(And it's spelled "y'all," btw)

 

[Memphis Slim]

Why are you saying "ya'll" when there's only one of me?

(And it's spelled "y'all," btw)

LOL

 

[Borat]

Bruce doesn't have detective skills. Batman has detective skills...Bruce has pimping skills.

 

[scifiwolf]

I liked the bits with Bruce doing surveillance in street clothes and some recon in the Narrows. For Begins, I thing little bits like that were an appropriate start. He's gotta build his skillset, and the stuff he was doing in Begins provides a good foundation.

For TDK, I'd like to see that skillset grow, but not be spot-on. He really shouldn't show any real mastery as a detective until the third movie.

 

[The Kid]

Detectives solve complex problems, plain and simple. I want batman figure out somethnig no one in the police force could figure out, thanks

 

[The Guard]

I'm of the opinion that BATMAN BEGINS DID feature some detective work and deductive reasoning. Some, nothing terribly impressive, but it was there. After all, Bruce basically figured out Ra's Al Ghul's plan. Granted, it was pretty easy with the orgy of evidence and convenient stumbling onto of the theft of the Microwave Emitter, but he figured it out, nontheless.

He also did his homework earlier on, poring over files of Faden, Gordon, and Rachel. So he has done some detective work...but a lot of it involved snooping, spying, and blackmailing.

I think a lot of you expect to see Sherlock Holmes style "getting it in a flash", which isn't very realistic, and isn't how real detective work happens. Detective work involves legwork and constantly considering many angles of a problem or case.

Doug Moench's THE CASE FILES OF BATMAN is a fantastic read that contains some of the kinds of things I'd like to see in the next film.

 

[The Kid]

Begins never really showed us any of the criminology skills that Batman should have nor any of his scientific knowledge. IT was Lucious Fox who developed the antidote to the Fear toxin---not Bruce. Heck.....Bruce didn't build the car or his suit. He modified some things but for the most part, it was Fox's genious on display...

Will Nolan give us some of the "Brain Power" of Batman in this one?

I hope so. I'm a bit of a Dick Tracy, Hardy boys, sherlock holmes, nut so I think I know how a detective handles business. they solve mysteries of course. I'm surprised the man behind memento didn't give us much mystery solving. Perhaps that will change.

 

[Jack Rabbit]

Let me ask you a very serious question, Memphis Slim.

What does developing antidotes and building cars have to do with detective skills?

Word.

 

[Hole Shot]

I know you all are thinking of detective work in a more sophisticated sense, but if you think about it the entire second act of Batman Begins is an investigation. He sets out to gather evidence to help the DA prosecute Falcone which leads him to Ra's Al Ghul's plot.

It's not like he's going to bust out all CSI right away, he spent his time away from Gotham tripping out in the Himalayas with ninja's not learning the arts of forensic science. Nolan will develop his skills as an investigator as Bruce further develops Batman.

 

[Gilpesh]

Didn't Batman also figure out the entire thing at the end before we had needless explanation from some pipe worker?

Also, wouldn't the destroying the track count towards detective? Before he even faught Ra's Al Ghul, he knew he had to destroy the train even if he was still on it.

 

[CConn]

are they going to even HINT at this in the new movie.
there have been 5 movies now and if I didn't read the comics I'd be none the wiser as to his genius.

no hint of his deductive reasoning
no hint of observational skills
no hint of his forensic skills
no gathering of clues

if there is ONE avenue I wish they'd explore for ONCE is the fact bats is supposed to put sherlock holmes to shame.

Uh, he showed all of those things in B89.

First he gathered clues on The Joker. Observing he may be Jack Napier, then looking at Napier's personal files to deduct Joker's motivation and motis operandi.

Then he used both forensic and chemistry skills to uncover how the Joker was killing people with his "new and improved" products.

B89 actually did a really good job of showing Batman as a great detective, I think.

 

[Nepenthes]

Sure BB had some detective work but I don't think the average viewer came away from the movie thinking 'gee that Batman he's one sharp guy'. Things just kinda fell into place the way they often do in action movies. TDK needs to showcase the detective work much more and fortunately Jonah Nolan has hinted it will.

 

[Keyser Sushi]

I know you all are thinking of detective work in a more sophisticated sense, but if you think about it the entire second act of Batman Begins is an investigation. He sets out to gather evidence to help the DA prosecute Falcone which leads him to Ra's Al Ghul's plot.

It's not like he's going to bust out all CSI right away, he spent his time away from Gotham tripping out in the Himalayas with ninja's not learning the arts of forensic science. Nolan will develop his skills as an investigator as Bruce further develops Batman.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand we have a winner.

 

[WormyT]

are they going to even HINT at this in the new movie.
there have been 5 movies now and if I didn't read the comics I'd be none the wiser as to his genius.

no hint of his deductive reasoning
no hint of observational skills
no hint of his forensic skills
no gathering of clues

if there is ONE avenue I wish they'd explore for ONCE is the fact bats is supposed to put sherlock holmes to shame.

Watch Batman Begins again!!


Even up the last act (in the mansion) Bruce is questioning Ras in order to put the final pieces of the puzzle together.
The movie is riddled with investigation, research, recon and interrogation.

 

[Catman]

Batman's detective skills have been shown in B89, Batman Returns and Batman Begins. Even Batman Forever had more than a handful of scenes that showed how smart Bruce really is. Go watch the films again.

Yup. And, lets not forget Adam West. Now...that dude was the best detective!

 

[Darknightnomis]

Batman 89 - Batman figures out the Jokers chemicals ONLY work when mixed together.

Batman Returns - Deduce that the Penguin was the missing aquatic boy from the circus and was looking for more information at city hall than his linage.

Batman Forever - Figures out every clue the riddler set up for him include figuring out he's Edward Nigma.

Batman and Robin - Figures out that Poison Ivey is using something extra to make Batman and Robin fight against one another.

Batman Begins - Figures out Ras plot as well that Ducard is Ras himself..

 

[GoogleMe94]

actually, he did crack the jokers chemical code in B89, in Returns he did some detective work on his computer, and in forever he cracked the riddlers riddles. B&R i dont remember if he didn any detetive work, and in begins, he played a dumb blonde and displayed absolutly no detctive skills whatsoever, let alone being a "genious". hopefully they will fix this in TDK.

 

[Mysterio]

I remember the scene where he surrounded by papers exactly what was he studying I thought that scene was to show him getting up to speed with the going on with gothem.

the toxin - anti serium was competely the work of fox what exactly was bruce analyzing.

to my knowledge I've seen one sceen that hints at his detective skills and that is B89 where he works out the combination of chemicals made the joker virus, other than that nada.

they hint detective skills and at his matial arts prowess rather than actually show he is argubly the best in the world at both.

its like peter in spider-man they hint at hi genius without actually showing it, I want them to really show it.

what do you want him to do, walk around with a funny hat and a magnifying glass? interview people?