The Dark Knight Will the Joker eveh be the same?

[BubbaGump]

Face shape is all wrong. Nicholson's hair does not stick out the back either.

 

[Figs]

why cant nolan and his team just wikipedia jokers character and go by that as opposed to coming up with their own interpretation!

Simply because he's not a tool. He's the director, he has his own vision and ideas for this film. I also don't like the fact that Joker might be putting the makeup on himself but that won't ruin it for me since it's a movie and not the comic itself. Now if some new writer down the road decided to do that in the comic, that's when I would be pissed.

 

[Figs]

well i think putting on makeup is just a little dumb for a pyscho killer
its a tad pathetic!

Dumb? Not if he's psycho. If he were sane it would be more along the lines of childish and pathetic.

 

[ToddIsDead]

Grant Morrison already tried incorporating the cut smile and he failed miserably. Thank God DC decided to forget about that.

 

[Figs]

u dont c patrick bateman doin the same lol

LOL, so does that mean every psycho was born with their brain wired the same exact way? That being psycho means you will put on face paint? You can take 50 guys that are all declared psychotic study them and find that all of them are completly different and all have different quirks/methods/likes and dislikes.

 

[The Shredder]

Face shape is all wrong. Nicholson's hair does not stick out the back either.

Hairline is similar. Hairstyle is similar. Doesnt have to be exact. Hell, who could blame him for not wanting to draw The Joker with as full of a face as Nicholson. But quite frankly, it's easy to tell where the artist took his inspiration from.

 

[CaptainClown]

LOL, so does that mean every psycho was born with their brain wired the same exact way? That being psycho means you will put on face paint? You can take 50 guys that are all declared psychotic study them and find that all of them are completly different and all have different quirks/methods/likes and dislikes.

seriously look at Ed Geins and compare him to the Zodiac completely different mentalities.

 

[FCEEVIPER]

After The Dark Knight, will the Joker ever be the same?

I don't think I will be the same after TDK, let alone the Joker.

 

[DarkSuperman]

Sooooooooooooo....

The joker paints his face white and dyes his hair? Hmmm. How very Lame. Isn't part of his eccentricities the fact that he CANT take the make up off?

 

[CristoTheSecond]

Of course it matters. A black guy with no make up Joker is no Joker no matter how crazy he is.

I always thought that the Joker was Katt Williams before he fell into some acid that destroyed his mind and bleached his skin.

 

[Batman jr.]

Sooooooooooooo....

The joker paints his face white and dyes his hair? Hmmm. How very Lame. Isn't part of his eccentricities the fact that he CANT take the make up off?

Lame is your post my friend

 

[Brendan]

Yeah, by the time Nicholson portrayed The Joker for Tim Burton's Batman 1989 flick, he was already an actor that was seen as something of an acting force of nature by both the movie going public, as well as executives within the Hollywood studios. And rightfully so. When Batman 1989 made it's debut back in June of 1989, I believe Jack succeeded in lending himself to that younger generation at the time that may, or may not have seen many of his previous films, and gained a entirely different audience than what he had previously enjoyed up until that time. And that was the whole Generation Y/MTV crowd. Personally, I became a big Jack Nicholson fan following my first viewing of Burton's Batman and his awesome, and very memorable portrayal of The Joker way back when. And havent looked back since. With Ledger, I believe he definately has the potential to bring in a peformance that will not only dazzle audiences, but also convey a much more darker and sinister side of The Joker that will be much more akin to that of how that character was presented in The Killing Joke and what not. Which very possibly may shock some people who are only familiar with Jack's version, and semi-familiar with Romero's. Now will Ledger's take be just as memorable in the general publics mind?

That remains to be seen.

I really hope Heath Ledger gets approached with very different roles after this than what he was used to before.

 

[deathfromabove]

I still don't know where you guys are getting this carved cut slashed smile stuff from

what part of this welted burn-looking scar looks like a cut?

I could understand painted smile, bumpy smile, extended smile, I could even understand bullet-hole smile, but there's nothing there that looks like a chelsea grin

even the frontal shot from ibelieveinharveydenttoo looked, at best, like a raised surface wound, not a deep permanent curve through his cheek

sorry to bring this back from the dead but...


hahahahahahahahaha

seriously though, five months later do you think the dark knight will drastically effect mr. j in the comics?

 

[BubbaGump]

Batman Confidential kinda has the carved smile thing going...

 

[Mr. Socko]

It can't drastically change him because he has not been 'drastically changed' in the film, now has he?

The Dark Knight Joker look is fine, but I wouldn't want the white face with flesh toned everything else, half brown long hair, and glasgow grin to be incorporated into the comics. Bermejo is doing a graphic novel and his Joker looks very much like Heath's, that's fine, but I don't want the TDK design to stick with the comics...just because I prefer the more classic look.

As far as personality, the Joker in TDK is said to be very much like he is in the comics, so there wouldn't really be much to incorporate in that department if the characterization is pulled directly from these comics.

 

[Rorschach II]

Heath Ledger's Joker looks to be cool and entertaining and all, but I definitely would like to keep the old-fashioned Joker in the DCU.

 

[Solidus]

It can't drastically change him because he has not been 'drastically changed' in the film, now has he?

The Dark Knight Joker look is fine, but I wouldn't want the white face with flesh toned everything else, half brown long hair, and glasgow grin to be incorporated into the comics. Bermejo is doing a graphic novel and his Joker looks very much like Heath's, that's fine, but I don't want the TDK design to stick with the comics...just because I prefer the more classic look.

As far as personality, the Joker in TDK is said to be very much like he is in the comics, so there wouldn't really be much to incorporate in that department if the characterization is pulled directly from these comics.

To me its fine if they have both. I love the classic look, good ol Bolland always puts a smile on my face. But I like Lee's stuff too. I've really grown to like the new look of the Joker. Though I love the classic look just as much. I think if once in a while a graphic novel is made with the TDK look is fine, but sticking with the classic will always be around. There's no denying that.

 

[Rorschach II]

Well, Joker did lose his sympathetic origin and gain a carved smile in Confidential, now that I think of it.

Is the non-bleached skin & hair style next?

 

[Mr. Socko]

What do you mean he lost his sympathetic origin? The Killing Joke origin was one of many possible explanations.


And I agree Solidus. I personally am not a huge fan of Lee's other work, but his graphic novel is looking amazing. Big surprise for me

 

[Paste Pot Pete]

I would be fine with Joker taking on some of Heath's physical characteristics. Not the cut smile or the makeup (obviously, that would take a total overhaul of the character), but as far as the hair, the clothing, and the body size/shape, I would be down with that.

Heath's Joker is physically derivative of Kane's original Joker, so I would like a return to those roots. A little sturdier looking, not as gangly, less extreme facial features (sometimes the long nose and chin get out of hand), slightly more haggard looking (the bags under the eyes are great).

 

[Watson]

It will really depend on the artist IMO. Some will identify with the new look, and some will prefer the more exagerated cartoon look. Some something totally different (ie Morrison in AA, Miller in DKR). As long as the constent characterization is there I think different looks are OK (within reason).

 

[ronny]

All this movie will serve to do is put the final nail through the coffin of the camp version of the character. Writers will probably still keep his dandyish elements and perhaps his more outlandish weapons but I don't think that we'll see The Joker enter a surfboarding competition ever again.

 

[bunk]

Sooooooooooooo....

The joker paints his face white and dyes his hair? Hmmm. How very Lame. Isn't part of his eccentricities the fact that he CANT take the make up off?

Who's to say he still can't take it off. Technically he could remove the make-up, but is unable to bring himself to actually do it. I think that would really say more about the character because he has a choice.

 

[regwec]

Not if he is incarcerated in Arkham for a few months.

 

[Solidus]

Reguardless if that happens or not (which I doubt they will) Even with it off I still think the Joker is so insane he still sees himself with it on. Just in a delusional way.

Have a little faith regwec I know you don't want to, but Nolan ain't a moron