Infinity War Will there be no Adam Warlock? (spoilers)

[metaphysician]

If you've seen Age of Ultron, then you know that Vision has been combined with Adam Warlock, with the mind gem embedded in his forehead, and he will replace Adam Warlock in Infinity War.

The reason for this is likely because Warlock is owned by Fox because of his origin in Fantastic Four comics. I'm still unsure how I feel about this. They aren't simply sticking the mind gem in Vision's head to augment Vision and use him in Warlocks place-- they used Warlock's origin with the cocoon and synthetic tissue.

The first part is almost certainly true. I can't see them introducing another "newborn friendly god-being with an infinity stone in his forehead" character.

I think your stretching for an explanation on the why. I'm very iffy on Adam Warlock actually being a Fox controlled character, given the many other characters who aren't so controlled with at least as good an argument. I mean, its *possible*, given how illogical the contracts often seem to be, but I don't think there's any actual evidence.

 

[Picard Stewart]

The first part is almost certainly true. I can't see them introducing another "newborn friendly god-being with an infinity stone in his forehead" character.

I think your stretching for an explanation on the why. I'm very iffy on Adam Warlock actually being a Fox controlled character, given the many other characters who aren't so controlled with at least as good an argument. I mean, its *possible*, given how illogical the contracts often seem to be, but I don't think there's any actual evidence.

He probably doesn't belong to Fox. This was Marvel deciding the two should be merged for storytelling purposes.

 

[The_Manhunter]

If you've seen Age of Ultron, then you know that Vision has been combined with Adam Warlock, with the mind gem embedded in his forehead, and he will replace Adam Warlock in Infinity War.

The reason for this is likely because Warlock is owned by Fox because of his origin in Fantastic Four comics. I'm still unsure how I feel about this. They aren't simply sticking the mind gem in Vision's head to augment Vision and use him in Warlocks place-- they used Warlock's origin with the cocoon and synthetic tissue.

I really liked Vision so I am very much OK with this, but I think there is still an opportunity to do Adam Worlock.

 

[thorstone]

So apparently Gunn had already confirmed the cocoon no longer meant anything.

In the commentary for GOTG which was recorded last November, he still said it was Adam. January 2015 he changed his tune. He must have gotten word soon after the commentary that Vision would become Adam in AOU.

Alf expresses his condolences to those who were wrong about GOTG.

 

[Tony Stark]

Combining them makes sense in that they are both androids, their origins are very similar in artifical beings that rebel against their creators.

There's no truth that Warlock belongs at Fox.

 

[Drizzle]

It's looking less and less likely that Adam Warlock is going to pop up. We'll know for sure once production on GOTG2 is well underway, because if they chose to introduce him to the MCU, that would be the film to do it. It's a little disappointing, but on the other hand, there are going to be so many cooks in the kitchen already for Infinity War. Between the Avengers, the Guardians of the Galaxy (probably), the Defenders (possibly), plus all the remaining heroes that have yet to be introduced in the MCU like Black Panther, Doctor Strange and Captain Marvel, it's going to be jam packed as is.

 

[Dasher10]

So who was in the cocoon? Who will have the Soul Gem? If the Guardians sequel won't be based on any story in particular, then wouldn't it make the most sense to use the Matriarch and Universal Church of Truth as antagonists who are naturally connected to Adam Warlock?

Adam Warlock kind of needs to show up considering that Infinity War: Part 2 is most likely going to involve the Magus as the main antagonist who's the evil version of Adam Warlock?

Didn't James Gunn confirm that Adam Warlock hatched from the Collector's lab?

If J'Son isn't Star Lord's father in the MCU, doen'st it make the most sense for it to be Adam Warlock?

Since Marvel don't own the rights to Deathbird, The Brood, the Badoon, Blaastar or Annihilus, the Guardians 3 options are Celestial Madonna (presumably Supreme Intelligence and a resurrected/cloned Ronan), Annihilation Conquest (Ultron again) and Count Abyss, the latter of whom is connected to Adam Warlock.

So remind me,why no Adam Warlock in Guardians 2? I feel like he and Phylla-Vell are the most likely new members since James Gunn confirmed that there will be no Nova in the sequel.

 

[Dasher10]

And if Fox don't own the rights to Namor, Black panther or Inhumans, then there is no way that they own Adam Warlock who is far more connected to the Guardians than he is the FF.

 

[Tony Stark]

I posted something about this in the general Marvel forums, but I'll answer this here as well.

The easter egg scene was nothing more than that. Yeah it's AW's cocoon, but it's just an easter egg, it wasn't meant to promise anything. When they shot the tag scene for TDW, they had a limited budget for that scene, you don't get the full scale of the collectors museum like you do in GOTG. Gunn said he just wanted to find stuff that would be interesting to put in there.

To my knowledge there have been no definitive statements from Gunn that any particular character will be in any given movie.

Vision is given the mind gem, and he's born bursting out of a metal coccoon so to speak. It's still Vision, there's a big intentional hint put in with him saving Wanda, and both of them are on the new Avengers team.

This is really no different than Making Tony the creator of Ultron. They didn't make Tony Stark into Hank Pym, they took an existing Avengers character for a purpose that was already being put forth in the sequel.

Again, there may be an "Adam Warlock" in GoTG 2, but it will be altered.

This is speculation but I feel the soul gem will be part of Doctor Strange, and the time gem would either be a part of Captain Marvel, or perhaps Inhumans.

 

[Spiderine]

Time Gem would be introduced well before Inhumans and Captain Marvel. I think the gems will already be in play for the first Infinity war movie. Thanos is probably in the process of collecting them and have them by the end of Infinity war 1. Soul Gem in Strange as an intro to the supernatural side. Ragnorok is the last film before Infinity war 1.

 

[Picard Stewart]

I really liked Vision so I am very much OK with this, but I think there is still an opportunity to do Adam Worlock.

There's an opportunity to do him properly - via Vision.

Here's an easy way to do it in Civil War.

INT. AVENGERS HQ - DAY
Cap walks down the halls of the sleeping quarters for the Avengers. He walks into Vision/Warlock's room. Vision/Warlock meditates.

Cap: "Time to head out."
Vision/Warlock: "I know."
Cap: "Ok."

Cap walks towards the door and then stops suddenly and turns back to Vision/Warlock.

Cap: "Hey, Vision, not to make things weird but me and the guys have been wondering, what's with the orange skin and the blonde hair? We're not saying we don't like you looking more "human", its just...unexpected."
Vision: "If I told you what was coming...I doubt you'd expect that either."

Cap looks intrigued.

Cap: "Wait for you in the hangar. Three minutes, Vision."
Vision: "Adam."
Cap: "What?"
Vision: "Call me Adam, Steve."
Cap: "Alright."

Then at the end of the movie have him ascend into the cosmos in search of the Guardians.

As long as he looks like Adam during Infinity Wars I'll forgive Whedon and Marvel for having done this.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

This is the absolute stupidest, dumbass fanboy jumping to conclusions thread I have ever read. Based on absolutely nothing. Seriously, go back to reading comics in your parents basement if this kind of thing is what you're going to perpetuate here on the Hype

 

[Venom 1988]

There's an opportunity to do him properly - via Vision.

Here's an easy way to do it in Civil War.

INT. AVENGERS HQ - DAY
Cap walks down the halls of the sleeping quarters for the Avengers. He walks into Vision/Warlock's room. Vision/Warlock meditates.

Cap: "Time to head out."
Vision/Warlock: "I know."
Cap: "Ok."

Cap walks towards the door and then stops suddenly and turns back to Vision/Warlock.

Cap: "Hey, Vision, not to make things weird but me and the guys have been wondering, what's with the orange skin and the blonde hair? We're not saying we don't like you looking more "human", its just...unexpected."
Vision: "If I told you what was coming...I doubt you'd expect that either."

Cap looks intrigued.

Cap: "Wait for you in the hangar. Three minutes, Vision."
Vision: "Adam."
Cap: "What?"
Vision: "Call me Adam, Steve."
Cap: "Alright."

Then at the end of the movie have him ascend into the cosmos in search of the Guardians.

As long as he looks like Adam during Infinity Wars I'll forgive Whedon and Marvel for having done this.

lol ok

 

[BatsDC]

How many of you have actually read Infinity Gauntlet or Infinity War?

You honestly think the( likely) final Avengers movie with the current cast is going to focus on a bunch of characters nobody knows and have literally just been introduced?

Warlock would have never had a large role, and I doubt he's completely off the table. The Infinity War we get is going to carry over the base concept of the Infinity Gauntlet story - but in no way will be a direct adaptation of it.

 

[Tanin]

I'm glad they chose Vision over Adam.... Adam's appearance is just grating to my eyes.

 

[Picard Stewart]

This is the absolute stupidest, dumbass fanboy jumping to conclusions thread I have ever read. Based on absolutely nothing. Seriously, go back to reading comics in your parents basement if this kind of thing is what you're going to perpetuate here on the Hype

If after watching AOU you still can't see that they've merged the two then I don't know what to tell you. Maybe try familiarizing yourself with Adam Warlock a bit?

Also, if you want people to take your opinions seriously, try chiming in with something that doesn't look like it was written by a child.

 

[Tony Stark]

He's not aruging that they are using Vision in the role of Adam Warlock. He's disagreeing with your description of how he can change his appearance in to Adam Warlock, that's not going to happen.

 

[Mike Murdock]

The whole reason Ultron, Scarlet Witch and QS are in the movie is for Vision.

You have that backwards. The whole reason Vision is in the movie is because of Ultron (probably Scarlet Witch too, but who knows). The movie exists for far more than a setup for Infinity War. Whedon always wanted to use Ultron, even before he came up with introducing Thanos.

Now it's entirely possible that Adam Warlock won't be in because they deem him too similar to their premise for Vision or, more likely, they'll sever the character's ties to the Soul Gem (give it to Mordo in service of Dormammu), but they didn't create Age of Ultron for the purpose of replacing Adam Warlock with Vision.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

Ah, the theories in this thread is still based on just as much hot air as last time I looked.

 

[MbJ]

How many of you have actually read Infinity Gauntlet or Infinity War?

We have. It just doesn't mean anything. The movies take liberties all the time.

This is a rehash of all those people yelling that you couldn't possibly make an Avengers film without the Wasp and Hank Pym.

 

[MbJ]

Seriously?

So you think people are lying just for the sake of lying?

No just that the OP doesn't know what he's talking about and is making wild accusations about behind the scenes stuff they know nothing about. Such as insisting that the only reason Ultron was the villain and that the Maximoff twins appeared is that Marvel wanted to replace Warlock with Vision.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

If after watching AOU you still can't see that they've merged the two then I don't know what to tell you. Maybe try familiarizing yourself with Adam Warlock a bit?

Also, if you want people to take your opinions seriously, try chiming in with something that doesn't look like it was written by a child.

You are an idiot if you think this is even remotely true. I have read comics since the 80's and I'm very familiar with all things Marvel. Feige and co have already stated that cosmic Marvel is important to them so why would they then replace one of the most important cosmic characters for an Earth based Avenger? Just because there are similarities between 2 characters does not mean one is replacing the other. I highly doubt FOX owns Adam's rights considering Inhumans would then belong to them if we are going to play that game. This is just some of the absolute dumbest fanboy fever dream I have ever read here on the Hype. I only return to this thread out of pure morbid curiosity from it's sheer stupidity.

 

[Picard Stewart]

You are an idiot if you think this is even remotely true. I have read comics since the 80's and I'm very familiar with all things Marvel. Feige and co have already stated that cosmic Marvel is important to them so why would they then replace one of the most important cosmic characters for an Earth based Avenger? Just because there are similarities between 2 characters does not mean one is replacing the other. I highly doubt FOX owns Adam's rights considering Inhumans would then belong to them if we are going to play that game. This is just some of the absolute dumbest fanboy fever dream I have ever read here on the Hype. I only return to this thread out of pure morbid curiosity from it's sheer stupidity.

Your condescending approach to posting makes me wanna vomit. If you took a break from being a five-year-old you could learn something from this thread. You didn't recognize the BLATANT portrayal of Adam Warlock Bettany gave in AOU so your alleged knowledge of "all things Marvel" is epically flawed.

You'd think the butterfly nod would tip people off.

 

[DoubleO88]

There's an opportunity to do him properly - via Vision.

Here's an easy way to do it in Civil War.

INT. AVENGERS HQ - DAY
Cap walks down the halls of the sleeping quarters for the Avengers. He walks into Vision/Warlock's room. Vision/Warlock meditates.

Cap: "Time to head out."
Vision/Warlock: "I know."
Cap: "Ok."

Cap walks towards the door and then stops suddenly and turns back to Vision/Warlock.

Cap: "Hey, Vision, not to make things weird but me and the guys have been wondering, what's with the orange skin and the blonde hair? We're not saying we don't like you looking more "human", its just...unexpected."
Vision: "If I told you what was coming...I doubt you'd expect that either."

Cap looks intrigued.

Cap: "Wait for you in the hangar. Three minutes, Vision."
Vision: "Adam."
Cap: "What?"
Vision: "Call me Adam, Steve."
Cap: "Alright."

Then at the end of the movie have him ascend into the cosmos in search of the Guardians.

As long as he looks like Adam during Infinity Wars I'll forgive Whedon and Marvel for having done this.

That sounds lame as fuk, it would actually be easier to introduce the real Adam Warlock in Guardians than what you just suggested.
People's whole argument for this is because Visions origin is similar? Who says Adam's origin has to be exactly the same as the comics anyway?

 

[KDM1986]

I fully expect Adam Warlok to not only be in The Infinity Wars movies but also GOTG 2. He has already been teased and like most have said he plays a big part in the infinity storyline. I saw this somewhere else but it makes a lot of sense to me.

T-Tesseract-Space Stone
H-HIM/Adam Warlok-Soul Stone
A-Aether-Reality Stone
N-Necklace/eye of agamotto-Time Stone
O-Orb-Power Stone
S-Secpter-Mind Stone