The Amazing Spider-Man Will this movie avoid being a retread of the First Spider-Man movie?

[Anno_Domini]

I'll always want to see peter in high school, that's how I imagine him. spidey's best stories are when he was in high school, virtually his entire rogues gallery was introduced in high school (well not venom and carnage but who cares about them?) most of his supporting cast was introduced in high school.

This. Plus, I actually like Spider-Man as a teenager since the other two great superheroes are adults(Superman and Batman). It's nice to see a teenager superhero.

Actually, most of his most notable supporting cast members (or at least many of them) weren't introduced until Peter was in college, including Mary Jane Watson, Harry Osborn, and Gwen Stacy.

High school, college...I enjoy the idea of a young man growing up taking lessens from life and in school while taking in the responsibility of being a superhero.

Almost the entire Spider-Man fanbase.... (even though I'm pretty sure you're being sarcastic. )

I wouldn't say almost the entire fanbase...maybe like 40%. I think the fanbase would care more about his most earlier villains.

 

[Mr. Fixit]

I've been a Spidey fan for years...not too sure about the back-story with his parents though.

Thing is, I don't necessarily want to know about that aspect of the character.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Again Sandman has been a sympathetic villain in the comics since the 70s. Its not the fact that Sandman was sympathetic in the movie that was the problem, its how it was handled. Apparently the Sandman story was much better written in an earlier draft of the film.

I believe that. Sandman is actually handled pretty well for half the film. Then he is seemingly killed and does nothing the rest of the way before showing up in the final battle. Without all the symbiote crap ruining the second half that Raimi was forced to do there would have been more time to develop Sandman as a character. Vulture would be much easier to use because he doesn't require the convoluted setup that Venom does.

 

[Anno_Domini]

I've been a Spidey fan for years...not too sure about the back-story with his parents though.

Thing is, I don't necessarily want to know about that aspect of the character.

Since his parents had some type of interesting backstory in the comics, I think they could play an interesting role in the reboot. I mean, Raimi's trilogy was very light-hearted, even with dealing with the symbiote, so some mystery may actually do some good in the reboot that we haven't seen in the previous Spider-Man films.

Plus, if it ties into OsCorp, it's a nice way to bring the big corporation into the film without Peter just knowing Harry Osborn, imo.

I believe that. Sandman is actually handled pretty well for half the film. Then he is seemingly killed and does nothing the rest of the way before showing up in the final battle. Without all the symbiote crap ruining the second half that Raimi was forced to do there would have been more time to develop Sandman as a character. Vulture would be much easier to use because he doesn't require the convoluted setup that Venom does.

Sandman was ruined since the beginning when the retcon was created.

 

[spider-neil]

Sandman was ruined since the beginning when the retcon was created.

basically the writers needed a motivation for peter to be angry at sandman and when mixed with the black suit that anger grows into a murderous rage.
fair enough but you mean to tell me the only way for peter to be angry at sandman was having sandman involved with ben's killer?

there's is lazy writing and there is lazy writing and then there is the uncle ben retcon.

 

[Thundercrack85]

They couldn't have Sandman nearly kill Aunt May or something? Okay, the Green Goblin already did that, but they repeat a lot of stuff.

I was also bothered by how Sandman got his powers. He just happened to walk into a particle accelerator... thing? I thought that was meant to be a joke / parody at first.

 

[spider-neil]

They couldn't have Sandman nearly kill Aunt May or something? Okay, the Green Goblin already did that, but they repeat a lot of stuff.

I was also bothered by how Sandman got his powers. He just happened to walk into a particle accelerator... thing? I thought that was meant to be a joke / parody at first.

too many plotlines so things have to move ridiculously quickly.
ooze by the bike
sandman stumbles into the experiment
butler joins the dots for harry

too many spinning plates that all come crashing down.
reducing one of the villians (doesn't matter which one) would have meant more screen time and thus more character developement for the other two.

SM2 moves much more organically

doc ock performs experiement and is permanantly changed
ock needs money to continue experiment
ock robs bank
money stolen completes the machine
ock needs missing element to power machine
ock goes to person who gave him elelment for first experiement
harry tells ock to get spider-man/peter in exchange for element (doc has the power to take element by force but I digress)
ock goes after peter
enter spider-man
ock takes out spidey and brings him to harry for 'payment'
harry tells peter where ock is (don't ask me how he knows just go with it)
final battle

simple, elegant, organically moving from one scene to the next.

 

[Thundercrack85]

The problem is that neither villain can really hold a movie. Sandman is barely a villain. And Venom just comes off as a petty loser. He's not even threatening here. You need first rate villains (Green Goblin, Doctor Octopus, Kingpin, etc) Here we have a pseudo-villain, and a second rate villain.

But there is just so much wrong with this trilogy that it's beyond repair. It's just that by the third movie it was becoming apparent to everyone. The characters were tired (except Jameson), the villains were uninteresting (and not all that villainous either), and the plot was forced.

 

[spider-neil]

The problem is that neither villain can really hold a movie. Sandman is barely a villain. And Venom just comes off as a petty loser. He's not even threatening here. You need first rate villains (Green Goblin, Doctor Octopus, Kingpin, etc) Here we have a pseudo-villain, and a second rate villain.

But there is just so much wrong with this trilogy that it's beyond repair. It's just that by the third movie it was becoming apparent to everyone. The characters were tired (except Jameson), the villains were uninteresting (and not all that villainous either), and the plot was forced.

green goblin 2 - the culmination of 2 movie
you could definately have a whole movie + the sub plot of pete and mj fill a movie

sandman - dying daughter
this sub plot is dropped and could have been fleshed out

venom/EBJ - creation of
you could have fleshed out the brock character and then given a better climax to the movie

all three characters could have been fleshed out to fill a whole movie, at a push there should have been two, all three was SUICIDE.
LOADS of people (including myself) were saying at the time (i.e. before the movie was released).

I don't know what you mean by so much wrong with the trilogy though as SM2 is my go to superhero movie. if I had non comic book friend and I wanted to get them interested in superhero movies I would show them; SM2, IM and TDK.

 

[Godzilla2014]

green goblin 2 - the culmination of 2 movie
you could definately have a whole movie + the sub plot of pete and mj fill a movie

sandman - dying daughter
this sub plot is dropped and could have been fleshed out

venom/EBJ - creation of
you could have fleshed out the brock character and then given a better climax to the movie

all three characters could have been fleshed out to fill a whole movie, at a push there should have been two, all three was SUICIDE.
LOADS of people (including myself) were saying at the time (i.e. before the movie was released).

I don't know what you mean by so much wrong with the trilogy though as SM2 is my go to superhero movie. if I had non comic book friend and I wanted to get them interested in superhero movies I would show them; SM2, IM and TDK.

Completely agreed!