The Amazing Spider-Man Will Uncle Ben die....

[Immortalfire]

Firstly, the director revealed that the aggressive and sarcastic attitude Peter will have in the film stems from the fact that he was abandoned by his parents at a young age. In his words, ""a quippy, trickster Spider-Man," in a world that feels "emotionally and physically grounded."

Tolmach went on to say that the story in the reboot will steer away from the death of Uncle Ben being the catalyst for Peter's decision to become Spider-Man. However, there will be a "veiled variation" on the "With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility" line.

Oh joy.

 

[chaseter]

I know a lot of people feel that exploring Peter's missing parents could take away the impact from Uncle Ben's death, but I feel that if it's done right, it could very well enhance it. Here you have a story of Peter searching for his parents, he's caught up in it and to add to that, he's been given super powers. So, more or less, he neglects his aunt and uncle's presence in his search to find out what happened as well as indulge in his powers. However, Uncle Ben's death might make him realize how close and important Uncle Ben was to him as a father figure, more so than his own father and that all the while he was searching for his father, he couldn't appreciate the only person he'd really known as a father. In turn make him realize how important his only family (aunt may) is to him. Yeah?

That's all and fine as long as Ben is the catalyst for Peter becoming the man he was meant to be....not his parents who he barely remembers.

They had a line in SM1 when Peter told Ben that he wasn't his father. Then Ben dies. That's pretty damn heavy. Peter finding out that OSCORP had a hand in his parent's death so he uses those powers to investigate and Ben dies along the way is quite the bastardization...if that is the route they take.

 

[Immortalfire]

I know a lot of people feel that exploring Peter's missing parents could take away the impact from Uncle Ben's death, but I feel that if it's done right, it could very well enhance it. Here you have a story of Peter searching for his parents, he's caught up in it and to add to that, he's been given super powers. So, more or less, he neglects his aunt and uncle's presence in his search to find out what happened as well as indulge in his powers. However, Uncle Ben's death might make him realize how close and important Uncle Ben was to him as a father figure, more so than his own father and that all the while he was searching for his father, he couldn't appreciate the only person he'd really known as a father. In turn make him realize how important his only family (aunt may) is to him. Yeah?

No.

 

[SpideyFan866]

That's all and fine as long as Ben is the catalyst for Peter becoming the man he was meant to be....not his parents who he barely remembers.

They had a line in SM1 when Peter told Ben that he wasn't his father. Then Ben dies. That's pretty damn heavy. Peter finding out that OSCORP had a hand in his parent's death so he uses those powers to investigate and Ben dies along the way is quite the bastardization...if that is the route they take.

On the other side, Raimi and Co. bastardized and did away with the story of Peter's parent's (no even giving them a mention) just for the "I had a father...." line at the end of the movie.

I think Webb and Co. are doing the right thing.

Peter was Spider-Man before Ben died in the comics and I don't see why its a problem he will be in this film.

Ben's death will always have a profund effect of the character and including Peter's parents and how that affects Peter will not take away from that.

 

[SpideyFan866]

If anything, Webb and Co. are making what Raimi did better by having Peter yearn for a father he never had when he had a "father" there all along.

I think it will make Ben's death more impactful, not less.

 

[Anno_Domini]

I hope your right. Even with Peter's parents playing a big role, I hope Peter realizes that he had a father with him all along after Ben dies and takes that to heart.

 

[fireflyhatter]

Ben does die. There was a set video.

 

[chaseter]

On the other side, Raimi and Co. bastardized and did away with the story of Peter's parent's (no even giving them a mention) just for the "I had a father...." line at the end of the movie.

I think Webb and Co. are doing the right thing.

Peter was Spider-Man before Ben died in the comics and I don't see why its a problem he will be in this film.

Ben's death will always have a profund effect of the character and including Peter's parents and how that affects Peter will not take away from that.

Peters parents were added in years later. They really have no weight at all into why Peter becomes Spider-Man. They do in USM but I'm not a big fan of that run.

So, as long as Ben is the main focus of why Peter becomes Spider-Man and not just swept under the rug then I'm fine.

Peter is not a crime fighter before Ben dies. He was a wrestler and a kid with no emotional burdens that now had super powers. Once Ben died then he used those powers to help others.

 

[Poni_Boy]

Peters parents were added in years later. They really have no weight at all into why Peter becomes Spider-Man. They do in USM but I'm not a big fan of that run.

So, as long as Ben is the main focus of why Peter becomes Spider-Man and not just swept under the rug then I'm fine.

Peter is not a crime fighter before Ben dies. He was a wrestler and a kid with no emotional burdens that now had super powers. Once Ben died then he used those powers to help others.

USM, like it or not, is a big influence in this film. It had huge numbers and rekindled people's interest in the character. The only difference with his parents is swapping SHIELD for Oscorp

 

[chaseter]

I can like it or not. If this new series is heavily USM based then it will suck to me. The USM universe is crap and most of the USM villains are complete garbage.

 

[lordofthenerds]

All these people wishing death upon a poor, innocent old man makes me sick.

 

[Ken-Kaniff]

All these people wishing death upon a poor, innocent old man makes me sick.

lmfao

 

[Troy_Parker]

I can like it or not. If this new series is heavily USM based then it will suck to me. The USM universe is crap and most of the USM villains are complete garbage.

Is Gwen a trashy ****e? Is Uncle Ben rocking a pony tail? Is Aunt May a GILF?

Relax. This is going to be a mix of various Spider-Man universes, it's not heavily based on any one incarnation of the character. They're taking the best of what's available and mixing that with their own magic.

Peter is quite Ultimate.

Gwen and pretty much everybody else for the most part is the "standard"/"normal" version of themselves.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

All these people wishing death upon a poor, innocent old man makes me sick.

Although unfortunate and sad, his death carries with it a great purpose.

 

[Rodrigo90]

All these people wishing death upon a poor, innocent old man makes me sick.

That poor innocent old man who we all wish death upon is the father of Charlie Sheen!

 

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

That poor innocent old man who we all wish death upon is the father of Charlie Sheen!

 

[Resistance61513]

I don't understand why everyone was up in arms about Peter having the Spider-Man costume made before Uncle Ben dies? Like someone else mentioned, Peter made the costume for his show time performances and stuff.

 

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

Can't hurt the Tiger blood. No, sir.

 

[Anno_Domini]

USM, like it or not, is a big influence in this film. It had huge numbers and rekindled people's interest in the character. The only difference with his parents is swapping SHIELD for Oscorp

A big influence? No, I wouldn't say that. Gwen is very 616 and so is Uncle Ben(Aunt May seems to be a mixture since she is rather young in the reboot). Peter is really the only thing that seems Ultimate to me.

A MILD influence and a MIXTURE of Ultimate and 616? Yes, I would vote for this...and as much as Raimi's trilogy was a mix.

 

[Galactus123]

I don't understand why everyone was up in arms about Peter having the Spider-Man costume made before Uncle Ben dies? Like someone else mentioned, Peter made the costume for his show time performances and stuff.

True. Peter had the costume before Uncle Ben's death in comics too

 

[Doc Phosphorus]

The problem with reboots is that there has to be a deliberate attempt to differentiate the new series from the old.

In some cases, where the original adaptation got things "wrong," there's an opportunity to correct those "mistakes" - i.e. going from organics to webshooters.

Unfortunately, the opposite must be true, simply for the sake of differentiation. Those things that the original series got "right" must now be altered or thrown out. We see this in the case of the suit - the Raimi costume was about as perfect as you could ask for; there was no "improving" it. The filmmakers' only alternative was to go with a total redesign. The emphasis on Ben and "great power, great responsibility" was such a major part of the Raimi movies that now it has to be downplayed in the reboot.

I guess that's just the way it works.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

The problem with reboots is that there has to be a deliberate attempt to differentiate the new series from the old.

In some cases, where the original adaptation got things "wrong," there's an opportunity to correct those "mistakes" - i.e. going from organics to webshooters.

Unfortunately, the opposite must be true, simply for the sake of differentiation. Those things that the original series got "right" must now be altered or thrown out. We see this in the case of the suit - the Raimi costume was about as perfect as you could ask for; there was no "improving" it. The filmmakers' only alternative was to go with a total redesign. The emphasis on Ben and "great power, great responsibility" was such a major part of the Raimi movies that now it has to be downplayed in the reboot.

I guess that's just the way it works.

Two ways to improve the Raimi suit. Remove the silver raised webbing and brighten up the drab colors. The TASM suit does both of those things.

 

[Web face]

Two ways to improve the Raimi suit. Remove the silver raised webbing and brighten up the drab colors. The TASM suit does both of those things.

But it also takes away the belt and adds shoes (which I don't mind personally). The new costume is good but its not an improvement, its just better in some aspects while the old one was better in others.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

But it also takes away the belt and adds shoes (which I don't mind personally). The new costume is good but its not an improvement, its just better in some aspects while the old one was better in others.

Read the post I was quoting. I was trying to prove that the Raimi suit wasn't perfect and it still could have made improvements.

 

[Ultimatehero]

An 8 year old kid developed sarcasm as a coping mechanism?

I hope Ben's role isn't shirked by spy parents.

Um, as an 'orphan' that has - yeah, it is there as a coping mechanism and does come at the price of something as heavy as losing one's parents.

I seriously don't see what the big problem is here. Those who say Aunt May and Uncle Ben would "realistically" be his end all be all - I'm doubting ever lost their parents at any age and should count themselves lucky because realistically? It does have a key impact, especially when you're that young. They made the RIGHT decision in this impacting his life. And as I've said before, and as anyone who has lost a parent from early on knows, any loss beyond that first one stings a thousand times more. So focus here will undoubtably further the focus on Ben as well. Acting like Peter didn't have parents before he lost them? Is a thousand times worse and not in the least accurate. And THIS - is coming from a guy who would do ANYTHING to protect his adoptive parents. A loss is still a loss. And acting like that loss isn't there - would be doing the character a great injustice.

....not his parents who he barely remembers.

And the same could be said, hell ESPECIALLY said, about me. I never got to know them. But that loss? Is still very real. The first time I felt it? It felt like they had just died. But they, in me, are alive. And what I do? A large part of my motivation? Is them. And let's just say that motivation that is partly spurred on by them - has gotten me to a place, a career, many can only dream of. So yeah, it is strong and I'd say there is a reason why many mythological heroes are orphans. It's not to have the kid alone. It's what being alone gives the kid.

However, Uncle Ben's death might make him realize how close and important Uncle Ben was to him as a father figure, more so than his own father and that all the while he was searching for his father, he couldn't appreciate the only person he'd really known as a father. In turn make him realize how important his only family (aunt may) is to him. Yeah?

All depends on why they have him searching. The search isn't really to find his parents. It's more a search to find the question, "who am I?" The best way to put this is SMALLVILLE, or at least in my experience, got it right in that his parents could teach him how to channel his abilities but not how to use his abilities. Here, with his biological father, it's his love for science which I doubt Uncle Ben has. It's more of a search to find what he lost - a sense of who he is, as I think Avi Arad already mentioned in another interview. The thing is both fathers are very alive and strong within him as a character.

HOWEVER, if both Ben and Richard were alive and Richard was just 'gone' - he would still feel a lot worse about Uncle Ben's death since that's who raised him the longest and, in his heart, is more of the 'real' father. I feel like the only way Peter would realize Ben was not important to him is if he's shown as somebody who ignores his importance to him. Which, I don't really see them going that route here. Even when one shouts "you're not my father!" it's more from a displacement area and not really meaning/believing it - it's just a different variation on what every other kid/teen may say when extremely angry and out of control.

If guilt does arise from it, being similar to that, it would probably be focusing more on one set of parents than the other ("search now, since my adoptive parents are still here and will forever be here"). Meanwhile during that, he neglects or starts to pay attention to Ben and May less. Thus, the guilt would come from missing time hunting ghosts instead of being around them since he thought they would be around forever rather than favoring Richard over Ben.

... hope this whole, now really long post, explains further how everything would impact him and especially from the way it's been described in interviews. Because, from everything in these interviews that deal with being an 'orphan' - they've practically been describing ways I've felt for years.

Trust me, these guys? Are getting it right. So right, I'm actually wondering how personal this may be to someone behind it. Because just by what they're saying, even some of the terms that they're using, they've done their home work and then some. This Peter Parker is accurate.