Wonder Woman Rotten Tomatoes Prediction Thread

[Iceman]

I prefer the route WB has taken. Origin films don't need to come before the team-up event films. It's worked well for WW. Fans got a taste of her in BvS and clamored for more of her. They followed up with her origin film.

The WW introduction in BvS is similar to the Black Panther and Spidey introductions in CW before their solos. We'll have to see how it works with the characters who haven't been properly introduced before JL.

 

[flickchick85]

I've got an impression they speak in general. About all DC films. I mean, if you have a problem with superheroes being out of their element (BvS) - it's one thing. But if all DC films for some reason should strive for hope, optimism, American way and stuff like that...

I think Roger Ebert's reactions to Batman Begins and Superman Returns pretty much sum it up:

Batman Begins: Yay, this is so dark and serious. It's Batman!

Superman Returns: Yikes, why is this all grey and gloomy like Batman? It's Superman!

What works for one character shouldn't be applied to all. Hell, even if you want to turn the mirror on Marvel, look at how much excessive praise CA:TWS got for going against the Marvel grain and being more "serious." Because that suited the character at the heart of it. I think if BvS had ONLY been a Batman movie, critics wouldn't have complained about its tone (they might have still had OTHER complaints, though...). It's the fact that it dragged two of DC's most optimistic and hopeful heroes into it that they took issue with. I mean in terms of tone, anyway. As I said, there were obviously other issues, too.

 

[markjoedelonge]

The WW introduction in BvS is similar to the Black Panther and Spidey introductions in CW before their solos. We'll have to see how it works with the characters who haven't been properly introduced before JL.

Yup, agreed. Although it looks like we might get a bit of origins in JL with Cyborg and Flash. Cyborg has the football scene we saw in the trailer.

 

[StormC]

If they're all going to be the same, what's the damn point of even making the film?

People like movies.

 

[harlequinade]

I know everyone has an opinion, but critic comments like "no more grim darkness" are annoying. They didn't care when Logan was super-dark and depressing, but DC for some reason should distance itself from it for some reason.

Well what else are they supposed to say with the whole Snyder situation? When I write my review I too will probably blame how awful the rest was on 'grim' because I refuse to mention Zack 1. out of respect 2. because he doesn't have much to do with WW and 3. because some of the people would probably claim it's disrespectful just to mention Zack and I have no time for stupid feuds

 

[-JKR-]

I hate to be the party pooper, but... I'm kinda worried. In a landscape where critics are in love with Captain America: Civil War and Doctor Strange, which I both found kinda unremarkable (especially the latter, they're nowhere near the best MCU entries IMO), are mildly disappointed with Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 and totally hate Man of Steel and Batman V Superman, are critics giving this a pass just because it seems like it's an "uplifting movie"?

I hope there's more to it, because I'm actually intrigued by Zack Snyder's take on the DC superheroes, and I would hate this to be too "vanilla."

 

[Filmfan93]

I hate to be the party pooper, but... I'm kinda worried. In a landscape where critics are in love with Captain America: Civil War and Doctor Strange, which I both found kinda unremarkable (especially the latter, they're nowhere near the best MCU entries IMO), are mildly disappointed with Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 and totally hate Man of Steel and Batman V Superman, are critics giving this a pass just because it seems like it's an "uplifting movie"?

I hope there's more to it, because I'm actually intrigued by Zack Snyder's take on the DC superheroes, and I would hate this to be too "vanilla."

I am sure it will be great Make up your own mind about it when you go see it.

 

[harlequinade]

I would have skipped this movie if it got bad reviews. I'm sure many posters here feel similarly.

Same. I was not going to see it but DCEU film getting reviews this good has me intrigued. If it got bad reviews I'd wait for DVD. But now I'm hyped.

 

[-JKR-]

I am sure it will be great Make up your own mind about it when you go see it.

Of course. I always do. I love Iron Man 3, Man of Steel and Batman V Superman - Ultimate Edition. t:t:t:
There's not much more you can do to make up your own mind about movies.

 

[harlequinade]

I hate to be the party pooper, but... I'm kinda worried. In a landscape where critics are in love with Captain America: Civil War and Doctor Strange, which I both found kinda unremarkable (especially the latter, they're nowhere near the best MCU entries IMO), are mildly disappointed with Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 and totally hate Man of Steel and Batman V Superman, are critics giving this a pass just because it seems like it's an "uplifting movie"?

I hope there's more to it, because I'm actually intrigued by Zack Snyder's take on the DC superheroes, and I would hate this to be too "vanilla."

I think it's a legitimately competently made film. So that's a first for DCEU. And it probably helped all those critics expected trash fire and were served entertaining, well done, well acted movie. I think tone had little to do with it just that it is not a mess.

 

[-JKR-]

I think it's a legitimately competently made film. So that's a first for DCEU. And it probably helped all those critics expected trash fire and were served entertaining, well done, well acted movie. I think tone had little to do with it just that it is not a mess.

Well...

 

[Filmfan93]

Well...

I have to agree with this. It indeed is. While MoS, BvS and SS have redeeming aspects, they are highly flawed.

The UC of BvS is essentially the same film, but a bit longer and it fleshes Superman's arc better. While people treat is as a completely different film is beyond me. It's an extension of BvS.

SS's editing, lack of character development (focus entirely on Harley and Deadshot), the cringeworthy Hoola-dancing Enchantress with Delevingne's bad acting and Leto's Joker all contribute to one great mess.

I am very happy that WW is getting great reviews. It's putting the DCEU back on track and I am very hyped for it!

 

[markjoedelonge]

Same. I was not going to see it but DCEU film getting reviews this good has me intrigued. If it got bad reviews I'd wait for DVD. But now I'm hyped.

You were really going to skip watching the first ever Wonder Woman film if it got bad reviews?

 

[jmc]

One thing that's going to be a consequence of WW being a critical success is it's going to be the first time in a while Marvel is going to have any real pressure put on them. Had WW been another mixed or critically panned movie they could have gotten away with another vanilla flavoured movie with Captain Marvel that does enough to not be bad. Now they've essentially got to ensure their first female lead movie is on par with WW.

 

[-JKR-]

I have to agree with this. It indeed is. While MoS, BvS and SS have redeeming aspects, they are highly flawed.

The UC of BvS is essentially the same film, but a bit longer and it fleshes Superman's arc better. While people treat is as a completely different film is beyond me. It's an extension of BvS.

Them being flawed doesn't make them less legitimately competent.

Anyway, the Ultimate Edition of Batman V Superman adds several important elements to the different subplots, making it a cohesive story, whereas in the theatrical cut it didn't flow as well.

Of course if you're upset about Batman's collateral damage or that the movie doesn't have the same uplifting and light tone as The Avengers you're not going to like either cut.

But the Ultimate Edition does make a difference from a storytelling point. To me the movie's major flaws are the forced Justice League teaser with Diana browsing through the videos and the CGI-heavy showdown vs Doomsday.

 

[markjoedelonge]

One thing that's going to be a consequence of WW being a critical success is it's going to be the first time in a while Marvel is going to have any real pressure put on them. Had WW been another mixed or critically panned movie they could have gotten away with another vanilla flavoured movie with Captain Marvel that does enough to not be bad. Now they've essentially got to ensure their first female lead movie is on par with WW.

And I'm so glad that DC beat them to the punch, and did it so well. If anything else, so it can shut up the MCU fans who have been snobbish about DC playing "catch up".

 

[Capsfan]

One thing that's going to be a consequence of WW being a critical success is it's going to be the first time in a while Marvel is going to have any real pressure put on them. Had WW been another mixed or critically panned movie they could have gotten away with another vanilla flavoured movie with Captain Marvel that does enough to not be bad. Now they've essentially got to ensure their first female lead movie is on par with WW.

Yeah, they aren't gonna pass Marvel's typical romantic subplot being screwed up so easily, when everyone is praising WW for the great Diana/Steve relationship.

 

[jmc]

And I'm so glad that DC beat them to the punch, and did it so well. If anything else, so it can shut up the MCU fans who have been snobbish about DC playing "catch up".

They still are in a sense but this is very much the first time since Nolan's film that the outcome has been positive. One film doesn't change everything, but at the very least this stops the bleeding. But this will be good for Marvel too, it gives them something to aim at for Captain Marvel.

 

[harlequinade]

You were really going to skip watching the first ever Wonder Woman film if it got bad reviews?

I don't have the time to see everything I want to see, let alone in theaters

 

[StormC]

You were really going to skip watching the first ever Wonder Woman film if it got bad reviews?

Given the dumpster fire 2016 was for DC movies, yes.

 

[Greenlite]

I can't help but wonder what the attitude towards this franchise would be if they started with this movie first.

Imagine this been the first one, and there are Superman, Batman to come, and they make a Trinity film, and JL as the sequel.

Oh well.

But Gal's appearance in BvS helped this one, otherwise she's totally an unknown and a negative narrative around DC, so it's not all bad.

Very pleased to see my signature prediction to be miles out t:

Lol it's like your predictions have to be halved or doubled, JL might get 17% or 70%

One thing that's going to be a consequence of WW being a critical success is it's going to be the first time in a while Marvel is going to have any real pressure put on them. Had WW been another mixed or critically panned movie they could have gotten away with another vanilla flavoured movie with Captain Marvel that does enough to not be bad. Now they've essentially got to ensure their first female lead movie is on par with WW.

Yup, Good public reception and products of another powerhouse CBM brand is good for the genre as a whole, otherwise if there's only one company making all the products and money, consumers will get products with less quality and creativity, and it will get stale over time and kill the genre, now WW might help Captain Marvel's awareness and interest, and if DC pumps out a few well received ones, people would want to watch the Marvel flavor to refresh themselves, variation is good.

Of course. I always do. I love Iron Man 3, Man of Steel and Batman V Superman - Ultimate Edition. t:t:t:
There's not much more you can do to make up your own mind about movies.

I also like IM3, though I feel bad for Mandarin fans afterwards, I did LOL at the time. It's clearly a Shane Black movie.

 

[Greenlite]

I would like to congratulate the 7% of posters who voted for 90-100%

PS I voted for that just now, so I'm not the prophets of the hype.

 

[Mz. Hyde]

I would like to congratulate the 7% of posters who voted for 90-100%

PS I voted for that just now, so I'm not the prophets of the hype.

Ooh, I was one of those. I voted ages ago too, well before the social media embargo was lifted. Glad to see my blind faith paying off.

 

[harlequinade]

Well...

I cannot speak for MoS because I only saw it once when it was released and it could be that there was nothing offensive from filmmaking standpoint there, but stuff like Adams being allowed to get onto alien ship for some reason, that I still remember. So MoS story was not the best. BvS...that was just overstuffed. And Squad...I have friends who make movies. They couldn't watch beyond 10 minutes. The editing, the sound, just...horrific. I had fun during Squad but in no way, shape or form is it well made.

Doctor Strange may be forgettable as hell but at least watching this I didn't think it barely even works as a movie and didn't wonder about plot holes and continuity errors. So Wonder Woman not being as mess was enough to get good reviews. But this is getting glowing ones, so it seams in addition to cinematic spine it also has a heart.

 

[Jumpman]

They still are in a sense but this is very much the first time since Nolan's film that the outcome has been positive. One film doesn't change everything, but at the very least this stops the bleeding. But this will be good for Marvel too, it gives them something to aim at for Captain Marvel.

Maybe but they don't get let off the hook for having Scarlett Johansson, probably the biggest female action star in the world right now in their ranks for 7 years, and she not be the first female Marvel character to get her solo film in the MCU.

It's a damn travesty, especially since damn near everyone has been wanting it. Her Black Widow is the single most interesting character they have.