Worst Cases of Miscasting

[Infinity9999x]

let go back to this, obviously this comes down to personal taste but how is keaton different from kilmer and clooney in the role? all three were not extremely cut muscle wise or that tall. they looked about the same the only difference is keaton got into the role and knew how to work it while the other 2 didnt and were just cast for there pretty boy looks.

so if we go by your definition of miscast then anyone playing a race or gender other then there own are miscast? Im sorry but I cant agree there, to me when your miscast your miscast. here is a list of my miscast and tell me if you agree:

Hayden christensen - anakin skywalker
Sam jackson - mace windu (jackson is better suited for loud mouth cop or roles that require him to be a badass, not a jedi who has the energy of a snail)
michael clark duncan - kinpin
halle berry- cat woman
val kilmer- batman
george clooney - batman
chris oddonell - robin
ben affleck - jack ryan
timothy dalton - 007
harrison ford - air force one
ice cube -XXX
kirsten dunst - spiderman

please tell me how anyone of these are not a miscast based on this thread, all these have one thing in common, they dont fit the roles they were hired for hence a miscast.

Keaton was too short for Wayne, not as big as Batman should be, and he did not have the look of the classic charming playboy that Wayne has always had. However, he gave a good performance.

Clooney and Kilmer both fit the look of Bruce Wayne better. They are also both good actors. However, they had bad scripts. Clooney had a HORRIBLE script. And you're blaming him for that? A great actor can't do much with a horrible script. It was not Kilmer's or Clooney's fault that they had to act downright silly at times. Kilmer in particular fought hard to keep the dark edge to Batman, but an actor can only do what's given to him.

Someone who is miscast either does fit the

A.) Typecast for the role. Mostly the physical aspect. Race, height, weight, overall look. Again, my example of a white man playing Othello, it doesn't fit the typecast. More specific, Keaton not having the look of the handsome playboy bruce wayn.

B.) Acting requirements. The actor simply does not have the acting ability for the role. They don't have the experience to delve into the character and give a performance that does the character justice.

C. Both of the above.

Kilmer and Clooney fit perfect for Wayne. They had the ability and the acting chops. But their scripts and their direction SUCKED. That is not their fault. That is why they were not miscast.

Keaton was miscast, (on the physical aspect only) but pulled out a great performance, so we looked past it.

 

[Iron_Stark]

The entire cast of the Fantastic Four movies (the principals and supporting) except for Chris Evans. Of course that falls on the shoulders of the talentless hack that directed the movie.

Kirsten Dunst in Spider-Man, sure her acting wasn't bad, but MJ's supposed to be a model.

Denise Richards in The World is not Enough. A nuclear scientist?

Arnold as Mr Freeze

Kevin Coster as Robin Hood

Sofia Coppola in The Godfather III

Kate Bosworth as Lois Lane in Superman Returns

Van Damme as Guile. lol Guile with a Belgium accent.

that's all I can think of right now.

 

[GhostPoet]

Keaton - Bruce Wayne.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Tommy Lee Jones as Two-Face, Tobey Maguire as Spider-Man/Peter Park, Hayden Christensen/Jake Lloyd as Anakin Skywalker, Arnold as Mr. Freeze and Jim Carey as Riddler.

 

[jacobed]

I've always said that George had potential to be the best batman if his script wasn't so terrible.

 

[Panthro]

Jack Palance as Toriano in "Arrowhead".

 

[DarkSovereignty]

the entirety of The Last Airbender.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Tommy Lee Jones as Two-Face, Tobey Maguire as Spider-Man/Peter Park, Hayden Christensen/Jake Lloyd as Anakin Skywalker, Arnold as Mr. Freeze and Jim Carey as Riddler.

Again, TLJ was not miscast. He could have been a great Two-Face, but he had a cruddy script and cruddy direction. Arnold wasn't the best freeze, but I think he could have played a man with no emotion. He certainly was great as a Terminator. And I think even Jim Carey could do a great creepy Riddler.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Yes, another thing that annoys me is that most people clumb BF in with BR because of the BR hate. BF isn't that bad. It has some very campy parts, and it has some pretty good parts.

Kilmer actually fought to include darker material, he was very unhappy when he saw the lighter direction they were going with the movie.

Agreed. Kilmer doesn't deserve the blame. There's a reason why he didn't come back for B&R. Kilmer was an amazing Bruce Wayne and an average Batman.

In fact, I like Batman Forever a hell of a lot more than Batman Returns.

Keaton was too short for Wayne, not as big as Batman should be, and he did not have the look of the classic charming playboy that Wayne has always had. However, he gave a good performance.

Clooney and Kilmer both fit the look of Bruce Wayne better. They are also both good actors. However, they had bad scripts. Clooney had a HORRIBLE script. And you're blaming him for that? A great actor can't do much with a horrible script. It was not Kilmer's or Clooney's fault that they had to act downright silly at times. Kilmer in particular fought hard to keep the dark edge to Batman, but an actor can only do what's given to him.

Someone who is miscast either does fit the

A.) Typecast for the role. Mostly the physical aspect. Race, height, weight, overall look. Again, my example of a white man playing Othello, it doesn't fit the typecast. More specific, Keaton not having the look of the handsome playboy bruce wayn.

B.) Acting requirements. The actor simply does not have the acting ability for the role. They don't have the experience to delve into the character and give a performance that does the character justice.

C. Both of the above.

Kilmer and Clooney fit perfect for Wayne. They had the ability and the acting chops. But their scripts and their direction SUCKED. That is not their fault. That is why they were not miscast.

Keaton was miscast, (on the physical aspect only) but pulled out a great performance, so we looked past it.

The script for Batman Forever was actually pretty good. There were many scenes that didn't end up in the final cut and all the visual problems were Schumacher's doing. The script still had some corny dialogue, but not as much as the film.

The script for B&R however.....


If anyone was miscast in the 90s Batman films it was Burton with Batman Returns and Schumacher with both Batman films.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Agreed. Kilmer doesn't deserve the blame. There's a reason why he didn't come back for B&R. Kilmer was an amazing Bruce Wayne and an average Batman.

In fact, I like Batman Forever a hell of a lot more than Batman Returns.



The script for Batman Forever was actually pretty good. There were many scenes that didn't end up in the final cut and all the visual problems were Schumacher's doing. The script still had some corny dialogue, but not as much as the film.

The script for B&R however.....


If anyone was miscast in the 90s Batman films it was Burton with Batman Returns and Schumacher with both Batman films.

I actually don't think either director was that bad. Schumacher was forced to do a lot of things from corporate influence. Yes, he deserves some of the blame certainly, but he was forced in the kiddie direction by the studio.

Forever isn't that bad, it's just lumped in with BR automatically because of BR. But the majority of both casts would actually have been pretty solid with better scripts and directions.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I actually don't think either director was that bad. Schumacher was forced to do a lot of things from corporate influence. Yes, he deserves some of the blame certainly, but he was forced in the kiddie direction by the studio.

Forever isn't that bad, it's just lumped in with BR automatically because of BR. But the majority of both casts would actually have been pretty solid with better scripts and directions.

I know he was restricted to doing a few things because of WB but the biggest problems was his fault. Neon Lights, Bat-Nipples, and Joker reject two-face. The original script didn't saw once that Two-face was laughing. He was written as a slightly more serious character.

 

[Paradoxium]

Kilmer was not a miscast, just dealt with **** cards. He arguably has the best live-action Bat voice that didn't rely on rasping. Just a deepening of it. It was much more natural yet different.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Keaton - Bruce Wayne.

 

[bullets]

This has probably already been said but Hayden Christenssen as Anakin Skywalker. It's even worse when you know Leo DiCaprio was up for the role.

There's a chance even Leo wouldn't of been that good in the role following Lucas's direction . Ironically it could of been a side step and hurt Leo's career .
I haven't seen hayden really shine in anything although he s decent but I wish they went with Ledger or Brandis for Anakin. ​

 

[bullets]

The script for Batman Forever was actually pretty good. There were many scenes that didn't end up in the final cut and all the visual problems were Schumacher's doing. The script still had some corny dialogue, but not as much as the film.

I read the novelization and Riddler had an interesting backstory .

Kilmer and Clooney both got f***ed respectively .

 

[Octoberist]

Michael Keaton was great as Batman. Too bad it somewhat ruined his career.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Michael Keaton was great as Batman. Too bad it somewhat ruined his career.

To be fair Keaton was indeed miscast. But he gave a great performance. So I'm all right with it.

 

[Octoberist]

you know what i mean

 

[Infinity9999x]

you know what i mean

Yeah, I'm just a ball buster some timest:

know he was restricted to doing a few things because of WB but the biggest problems was his fault. Neon Lights, Bat-Nipples, and Joker reject two-face. The original script didn't saw once that Two-face was laughing. He was written as a slightly more serious character.

Good point about that. Especially Two-Face. I do remember reading somewhere that TLJ was especially angry with Schumacher about the direction he had with his character.

 

[marvelman2006]

Yeah, I'm just a ball buster some timest:



Good point about that. Especially Two-Face. I do remember reading somewhere that TLJ was especially angry with Schumacher about the direction he had with his character.

tell me about it LOL, its all good though, its fun to have healthy movie conversations.

 

[That-Guy]

Michael Keaton was great as Batman. Too bad it somewhat ruined his career.

I don't know... I think that Keaton gained a lot of respect for his performance in Batman. It was most of his later roles (One Good Flop, Multiplicity, White Noise, Herbie, JACK FROST) that cemented the death of his career (at least as a lead actor).

Of course, it is possible that almost all he was offered after Batman was crap scripts, so perhaps the cape and cowl did hurt him, I don't know. But before Batman, he had just done mostly screwball comedies.

 

[Octoberist]

My point being, it was the beginning of the end for him. But I'm happy for his new success as of late.

 

[That-Guy]

Yeah. He was awesome as Ken.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

My point being, it was the beginning of the end for him. But I'm happy for his new success as of late.

He was hilarious in the Other Guys as well as Toy Story 3. He was the best part of the latter scenes of the Other Guys.

Yeah, I'm just a ball buster some timest:



Good point about that. Especially Two-Face. I do remember reading somewhere that TLJ was especially angry with Schumacher about the direction he had with his character.

Lets put it like this. Everyone hated Schumacher's direction of Batman Forever.

I read the novelization and Riddler had an excellent backstory .

Kilmer and Clooney both got f***ed respectively .

Pretty much and not by the studio.

Schumacher tried to make it look like the 60s Batman series while making it serious.

He pretty much destroyed an amazing script.

 

[ross2287]

Kilmer was not a miscast, just dealt with **** cards. He arguably has the best live-action Bat voice that didn't rely on rasping. Just a deepening of it. It was much more natural yet different.

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree. Kilmer's voice--as both Batman and Bruce Wayne--was horrible.

"Tell me doctor, do you like the thircusth?"

"'R'? What's dat ssssthand for?"

He did look the part of Bruce Wayne though and was arguably in the best shape of the three.