Worst MCU movie?

[DA_Champion]

The fact this discussion is up for debate in part shows how much this industry has improved by.

Has there been a genuinely awful-by-consensus comic book movie (from any studio) since Green Lantern?

 

[Lantern Venom]

The fact this discussion is up for debate in part shows how much this industry has improved by.

Has there been a genuinely awful-by-consensus comic book movie (from any studio) since Green Lantern?

RIPD and Fantastic Four (2015).

 

[Eddie]

The fact this discussion is up for debate in part shows how much this industry has improved by.

Has there been a genuinely awful-by-consensus comic book movie (from any studio) since Green Lantern?

Um... you may have heard of the Fantastic Four debacle last year. Far more trashed than Green Lantern.


As for the main topic, my least favorite MCU film is The Incredible Hulk. I still like it quite a bit, though. The Hulk vs Abomination fight in particular was a highlight in the theater.

 

[TeeKay]

The fact this discussion is up for debate in part shows how much this industry has improved by.

Has there been a genuinely awful-by-consensus comic book movie (from any studio) since Green Lantern?

Fan4stic.

 

[DA_Champion]

OK, so I missed two movies, but over a time span of five years in which we got like 25-30 movies, I think that proves my point.

 

[chamber-music]

Ant-man. This was the first time that Marvel didn't fully trust its source material. They went with the campy cliche in Scott Lang instead of the superior Hank Pym as the centerpiece. It's not a bad film, but EMH did more justice to Ant-man than the film.

The only thing that disappointed me about ant-man was the cool cold war prelude mission in Panama scene they filmed yet cut from the movie. We saw glimpses in the cross presentation scene and in the trailers. The didn't even included it on the blu-ray deleted scenes.

 

[BH/HHH]

Iron Man 2 very closely followed by Thor the Dark World.

Tbh the only Marvel films I don't like at all are Iron Man 2, Iron Man 3 and Thor the Dark World.

Avengers AOU is down that way aswell but there are some parts of that film I do like.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

You really think there are no redeeming qualities outside of Pena? I have to wrack my brain to find a movie that I truly believe to have only one redeemable quality. Even ones I dislike with a passion have something I can look at and go "that works".

Same here, even poor CBMs I don't like have more than 1 redeeming feature and Marvel have yet to make a poor movie in my eyes.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

none of them are bad or even close to bad. however, TIH, in my opinion, was the most disappointing. some serious miscastings, a couple of weird design choices and a third act that did go on for hours with brainless brawls

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

After giving it some thought I went for TDW. IM3 at least has a good arc for its main character and a finale that was pretty good. I also loved the AFO action scene, the whole thing, at least until it's revealed Tony wasn't in the suite.

TDW had none of that, Loki and a couple of Kurse scenes where the best parts, but even the big fight between Thir and Kurse was a let down. Frigga's death was also poorly done IMO. So TDW shades it as the worst or least good for me.

 

[Spiderine]

I dont hate or dislike any of the MCU films. I have loved all of the original films of each individual franchise. And even the Incredible Hulk was such an improvement over the 2003 version that I have a hard time criticizing it. The sequels with the exception of TWS were underwhelming but still enjoyable. IM3 and TDW seem to be popular choices for least favorite but honestly how do you follow up such a massive behemoth like The Avengers with a couple of solo efforts that were really just 2 hour trailers for the next team up Avengers.

So I guess if I had to pick one its actually AOU. It was the one movie after Avengers I anticipated the most. I like it but I was a bit disappointed with a villain I thought had the most potential to be great with a compelling storyline. Repeat viewing has made it worse for me because I think what could have been. If I was a huge Mandarin fan then I would say IM3 but Im not so the change although lame doesn't really bother me as much as Ultron's portrayal.

I know it was hard to live up to the original Avengers but Ultron and the choppy story along with no real character progression that I was interested in makes it the most disappointing for me.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I am honestly not surprised at some of the votes for AOU, it's such a frustrating movie for me, really good moments immediately followed by really bad ones. It's not the worst for me though it's more middle ground. But yeah, Ultron was SUCH a disappointment for me.

 

[Spiderine]

I am honestly not surprised at some of the votes for AOU, it's such a frustrating movie for me, really good moments immediately followed by really bad ones. It's not the worst for me though it's more middle ground. But yeah, Ultron was SUCH a disappointment for me.

LOL.......EXACTLY. Read my post above. I voted for AOU. Its the only movie I walked into the theater having higher expectations for and it fell flat for many reasons.

 

[Eddie]

OK, so I missed two movies, but over a time span of five years in which we got like 25-30 movies, I think that proves my point.

That Sin City sequel, the 300 follow-up, the Oldboy remake, Priest, etc.

We're still getting poorly received Hollywood comic adaptations, it's just that we're getting multiple good ones each year.

 

[Spiderine]

I know one thing.....battling another army of aliens/robots/clones etc better not happen in IW1/2. That felt so boring and redundant sitting through the climax of AOU. Lead by a weak villain.

 

[Flint Marko]

Same here, even poor CBMs I don't like have more than 1 redeeming feature and Marvel have yet to make a poor movie in my eyes.

Exactly. I'm a quite outspoken critic of MoS but I would never say that it has no redeemable qualities. Hell even dumpster fires like GL and FFINO have a handful of things that can be commended.

 

[The Joker]

GOTG, Avengers, Iron Man, Winter Soldier, and Ant-Man do not belong on that poll. They're not contenders for worst MCU movie.

I voted for Iron Man 2. Not that I think it's bad, just the weakest effort of the MCU so far.

 

[First Avenger]

I know lots of people have multiple problems with IM3 and AoU but to me they are their most underrated movies. IM3 is just a hair below IM,while I'm one of the very few who got more out of AoU than the first one. At the end of the day I'm glad most of us agree we're talking about different grades of good movies and it's great to hear all the different opinions on them.

 

[Spiderine]

I think the fact that you can look at every film on this list and say none were a complete disaster like we have seen from other offerings is a huge testament and victory for Marvel Studios. Its really an astounding track record thus far.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

LOL.......EXACTLY. Read my post above. I voted for AOU. Its the only movie I walked into the theater having higher expectations for and it fell flat for many reasons.

For me it has gotten worse on re-watch as well. The flaws stick out even more for me and I actually get annoyed watching it at points. Never thought I would utter those words about a Joss Whedon movie. Though it's not all down to him of course.

Exactly. I'm a quite outspoken critic of MoS but I would never say that it has no redeemable qualities. Hell even dumpster fires like GL and FFINO have a handful of things that can be commended.

Agreed, not seen FFINO, but I get your point, there are bad CBMs out there but they all tend to have at least a few things that I like about them.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I know one thing.....battling another army of aliens/robots/clones etc better not happen in IW1/2.

Prepare to be disappointed then. That's like asking for a Star Wars film to not have a lightsaber duel.

 

[Flint Marko]

I know lots of people have multiple problems with IM3 and AoU but to me they are their most underrated movies. IM3 is just a hair below IM,while I'm one of the very few who got more out of AoU than the first one. At the end of the day I'm glad most of us agree we're talking about different grades of good movies and it's great to hear all the different opinions on them.

I understand the disappointment with AoU but I still don't get the hate for IM3. Even if you hated the twist I think there's so much there to appreciate and enjoy.

I think the fact that you can look at every film on this list and say none were a complete disaster like we have seen from other offerings is a huge testament and victory for Marvel Studios. Its really an astounding track record thus far.

True. Marvel is on top for a reason. If someone isn't a fan of their formula then that's more than understandable, but it's working for them in spades.

Prepare to be disappointed then. That's like asking for a Star Wars film to not have a lightsaber duel.

True, but I do hope that they're able to give us something that feels different enough. The Russo's handling Infinity Wars is great news; even though I like Whedon, it was clear he was tiring out.

 

[Spiderine]

Prepare to be disappointed then. That's like asking for a Star Wars film to not have a lightsaber duel.

Meh.....I would like to see all this portrayed in a different manner. Maybe using an entity like the black order. All Im saying is using another generic alien army/robot drones for a big battle would be redundant. I expect Thanos to be far more powerful and intriguing than anything we got with Ultron so that should be the big payoff anyways. Especially with Infinity stones and other alien super villains being involved in this story. Its going to help that we get other powerful foes before the showdown with Thanos hopefully.

Sitting through AOU climax of battling weak cyborgs led by a weak generic villain was vastly underwhelming. They got to come big and different for IW.

 

[First Avenger]

I understand the disappointment with AoU but I still don't get the hate for IM3. Even if you hated the twist I think there's so much there to appreciate and enjoy.



True. Marvel is on top for a reason. If someone isn't a fan of their formula then that's more than understandable, but it's working for them in spades.



True, but I do hope that they're able to give us something that feels different enough. The Russo's handling Infinity Wars is great news; even though I like Whedon, it was clear he was tiring out.

What's your opinion on AoU?

 

[Flint Marko]

What's your opinion on AoU?

Long story short I think there are areas where it genuinely improved upon the first, but it also felt like a retread and didn't quite capture lightning in a bottle like it's predecessor so I understand mild disappointment even though it's still a really good movie in it's own right. I just think it's an easier movie to pick apart given that it's flaws are more readily apparent.
The only problem I had with Ultron is that he comes out of nowhere. There's no backstory, no exposition to set up what exactly Ultron is so his turn towards evil feels rushed and unearned. Tony just says, "this might be the first step in creating Ultron" and we're supposed to just go with it. I liked what they did with him the rest of the movie, and I didn't mind him being quippy either, but a little bit more time spent setting him up would've gone a long way.
The Thor hot tub scene was also problematic and rushed. Within the context of the movie it didn't really make a whole lot of sense.
However, I must stress again that I still think it's a really good movie that's smart, sincere, and self-aware. People knock Quicksilver saying that he was uninteresting and almost a non-entity, but I'd argue that his arc with Hawkeye was extremely satisfying. "Bet you didn't see that coming" is a great line, a great resolution for that character, and a nice wink to the audience.
The Vision is the money-shot. Not only is he one of my favorite characters from the comics, but I love the journey that "Jarvis" has taken in the MCU. This might have nothing to do with AoU, but it's an extremely satisfying through-line that hits all my fanboy sweet spots. Edwin Jarvis was Howard Stark's butler and is brilliantly cast in Agent Carter, who served as the inspiration for Tony's AI system. Now "Jarvis" is a superhero in his own right, and the Vision more than lived up to this legacy in what little we saw of him.
I also did like the often-maligned Black Widow/Hulk romance. It was out of left field but the movie presented it in a way that made sense and they ended it as they should. Overall I'd say that I think it isn't one of Marvel's finest (Avengers, Iron Man, Guardians, TWS, and I'd even argue Ant-man) but at some point "good" is an inevitably with a franchise as prolific and expansive as the MCU, so the disappointment shouldn't be overstated.