Would a Flash petition help?

[DarkSuperman]

If enough people signed a petition to have levy taken off the flash do you think that would help the situation at all? It would probably have to be as big as when the WB cancelled Angel. Those fans had billboards and news paper ads. A las...that didnt save the show.

I guess The WB just turns a deaf ear to the cries of its target demographic.

 

[SolidRoar]

Well, the fan-outcry did help to cencel the Jack Black GL idea, so I don't know. I was thinking of the possibility of a petition as well.

Man, I am really sad right now.. first, Whedon's WW and then Goyer's Flash - topped only by announcing Shawn "mediocre-at-best-comedies" Levy as the new helmer of The Flash. I don't know how much more I can take!

 

[odiin]

How about we all give it at least a little bit of a chance before we get all u in arms?

Who knows, we could end up missing out on the next Batman Begins. Sure, his name doesn't automatically click as being perfect for the Flash, but none of us really know what he has in store for the movie, and it would obviously be different from anything he's ever done.

Now, if it sucks I'm all for letting the people in charge know, but we don't know about this movie to say that just yet. At least with the Jack Black GL project, we already knew it was a crappy concept, but this we have no information about yet. So in the mean time I think we should just wait and see, and the most we can say about it now is "HIM for the Flash? Huh... how about that."

 

[Sun_Down]

How about we all give it at least a little bit of a chance before we get all u in arms?

Who knows, we could end up missing out on the next Batman Begins. Sure, his name doesn't automatically click as being perfect for the Flash, but none of us really know what he has in store for the movie, and it would obviously be different from anything he's ever done.

Now, if it sucks I'm all for letting the people in charge know, but we don't know about this movie to say that just yet. At least with the Jack Black GL project, we already knew it was a crappy concept, but this we have no information about yet. So in the mean time I think we should just wait and see, and the most we can say about it now is "HIM for the Flash? Huh... how about that."

Normally, I would agree whole-heartedly, but I think people are getting a little sick of watching these projects sink when we can obviously see that the wrong people are working on them. Now I'm all for waiting until the script inevitably leaks to pass judgement, but I definitely understand people's skepticism on this one.

 

[DarkSuperman]

Its just simple logic...if you want a cake go to a baker. If you want to take a flight talk to a pilot. If you want a Action Packed Superhero Blockbuster...you most definately DO NOT go to the mediocre comedy man.

They're getting it wrong from the get-go. Its like Tim Story the Sequel. I dont want this dude "Practicing" his Action/Adventure directing skillz on my boy The Flash. He deserves a veteran who knows what he's doing.

 

[odiin]

Normally, I would agree whole-heartedly, but I think people are getting a little sick of watching these projects sink when we can obviously see that the wrong people are working on them. Now I'm all for waiting until the script inevitably leaks to pass judgement, but I definitely understand people's skepticism on this one.

Fair enough, but none of us were there when any of this was discussed over at WB. He COULD turn out to be a great choice for this. People bashed Daniel Craig as Bond to no end, but when the movie came out it ended up being the greatest Bond movie since the 60s and one of the best reviewed films of the year. In fact I remember early on someone involved with the production saying something along the lines of "Yeah, truthfully, you really can't see it based on the things he's done up to this point, but Craig is great for bond." and he WAS great. We would have totally missed out if EON gave in to all the negativity and got someone else instead. Maybe it's like that, Yeah his other films were mediocre comedies, but he might actually be perfect for this and we would be missing out if we didn't at least give him half of a chance.

And by the way, even distinguished veteran film makers can churn out royal turds. Case in point: Joel Schumaker in Batman and Robin.

 

[WTFimVENOM]

nope...WB allready gave Levy a stick of beef jerky and half of a slurpy to do the movie so they're gonna stick with their investment....

 

[jaydawg]

I'm amazed people still think petitions work. WB isnt going to change anything till the cash flow is affected. Which means the movie comes out, looses them money, then they change things.

 

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[odiin]

It's worse if you do nothing. So, yeah, do SOMETHING.

Well it wouldn't be very effective if you did anything now anyway. Whining about the movie based off the director alone is sort of baseless. They've decided on him as a director for a reason and no whining amount of whining at THIS point is going to change that, because at this point no one knows enough about the project at this point to even be able to form an opinion on. So why would they go back and take ANOTHER person off the project so soon when there is no real legitimate argument at this point other than people ASSUMING it's going to be bad based?

Now, if when early info on this movie begins to be released and it does in fact look like it's going to suck hard, and people start making petitions about it and stuff THEN, then it actually might be effective seeing as how people would have a genuine reason to not like it.

 

[Katsuro]

I'm amazed people still think petitions work. WB isnt going to change anything till the cash flow is affected. Which means the movie comes out, looses them money, then they change things.

You seem to be forgetting the very obvious fact that they just DID change things. Remember how Goyer was attached to this, then let go? There's absolutley nothing to suggest that won't happen again.

While I dont think a petition will do much, just generally voicing our opinions will help. I mean, Jack Black cited fan outcry as the reason his Green Lantern project was cancelled. And last I checked the new Superman movie wasn't by J.J. Abrams featuring a Kryptonian Lex Luthor and an unexploded Krypton.

 

[lordofthenerds]

For the record, though, you don't know that he's going to do a bad job. Tim Story was known as a comedy director when he did Fastastic Four and people seem to like that movie.

Not really...actually that movie is rightfully bashed to no end by a lot of people.

 

[dnno1]

Not really...actually that movie is rightfully bashed to no end by a lot of people.

The hand writing is on the wall for that film (FF). It made (quite a bit of) money and its sequel is probably going to make even more. Of course there would be nay sayers but that goes with every film (some more than others).

 

[lordofthenerds]

The hand writing is on the wall for that film (FF). It made (quite a bit of) money and its sequel is probably going to make even more. Of course there would be nay sayers but that goes with every film (some more than others).

And FF would definently be one of those films that has a lot of nay sayers. Just look at Rotten Tomatoes. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/fantastic_four/

 

[Hunter Rider]

Hanging a man for what he might do is like something from the dark ages

 

[Docker2.0]

You guys trip me out! Most people were calling for Goyer's head when he wanted to direct it, even though he only had ONE bad movie(which really wasn't THAT bad) even though dude was doing a lot of research about light speed and time travel to make a good movie. Now you got Sean doing this movie, you still aint happy! I'm a Flash fan and despite the Goyer-bashing, I stood behind Goyer cuase dude has vision and he's a comic fan so I know he'd do what's best for the movie. But some of you guys bashed him constantly cuase of Trinity, forget BB and Blade 1 & 2, but focus on his mistake! As a Flash fan I'm disappointed that this movie will sux more than Jenna Jameson but as a comic fan who's sick of all the whining about the tiniest freakin details, I'm happy as hell cuase this is exactly what I knew would happen knowing the WB: they'd get rid of some1 u think was a bad director and hire someone FAR worse! I wouldn't be surprised if Matt Groening would direct WW! There's always Marvel though. Despite all the constant bashing of how all of Marvel movies suck, you can only count on almost one hand the movies that didn't gross over $100 million. Now for me speaking the truth, let the bashing begin.

 

[StorminNorman]

I want to know who is writing the script. If we have talent in that department, I will have faith in Levy.

Atleast this move so soon after canning Goyer shows that WB WANTS to make a Flash film.

Plus, if you are going to have a lighter hearted Superhero film with DC - it would be Flash.

 

[Docker2.0]

Nah, the perfect lighthearted movie would either be Plasticman or Booster Gold. Flash isn't exactly light but not dark either.

 

[StorminNorman]

Nah, the perfect lighthearted movie would either be Plasticman or Booster Gold. Flash isn't exactly light but not dark either.

We aren't going to get either of those in movie form.

My point is, however, lets see whose writing the script before we go nuclear on the guy.

 

[ultimatefan]

Petitions don´t mean much to studios, but here´s my open letter to WB:

Dear WB:

You guys know that, when you tried to ridicule and dumb down your DC Comics superheroes, the result has been both critical panning and box office disappointment. Batman & Robin and Catwoman are every bit as disliked by average moviegoers as they are by us comic book geeks.

Batman Begins and Superman Returns may not have been the box office juggernauts you were hoping for, but the problem is not that Chris Nolan and Bryan Singer were "too serious". You only have yourselves - well, and the Salkinds - to blame for the downfall these franchises experienced when they were still new and fresh and had potential to be the cash cows that Harry Potter or Spider-Man are now. At the very least, these filmmakers brought some respect back to properties that had become a joke and managed to bring a renewed interest for characters that seemed to be dead in the water for good.

The key is NOT to come back to the comittee/focus group mentality that was exactly what gave you your duds. Regardless of whatever box office success Shawn Levy has experienced, none of what he has made as a director qualifies him as the man to bring a much liked and lasting character to the big screen. Granted, Flash is a lighter character than Batman and not as iconic as him or Superman, but he´s not allout comedy either. Tim Story and Fox made that mistake with FF and now they have to convince people it´s for serious this time with the sequel. Unless Levy has a 180 degree turnaround as a filmmaker, nothing indicates he´s capable of much better than your past embarrassments.

Hiring mediocre hacks who only say "yes" to the suits is the coward attitude that bring occasional but ephemeral success. In ten years, nobody will remember Night At The Museum or Pink Panther. Shawn Levy´s mom won´t remember Night At The Museum or Pink Panther. Flash deserves better and, unless we get some signs that really blow our minds, that will be the feeling till the very opening of this movie, one that´s likely to reflect on word of mouth cuz, remember, us geeks may not be the general moviegoers but we are a big piece of the crowd on your all-important opening weekend...

 

[Hunter Rider]

The petitioners might not need to worry as Levy might drop out given the latest news

 

[StorminNorman]

The petitioners might not need to worry as Levy might drop out given the latest news

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[Silverload]

Say what you want about petitions not working, but when J.J. Abrams Superman script received a petition of over 10,000 signatures in less then two days then it wasn’t too long before they pulled the plug and started fresh. But then again AICN did help with that.

 

[Hunter Rider]

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http://www.latinoreview.com/news.php?id=1412