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Kane said:
Woah whered you hear that?
The recap is told through comic book panels. You may have seen some of them in one of the blogs.
 
Oldguy said:
I don't think either Siegel or Shuster had any love for the "American Way" either, you know, where a faceless corporation screws you out of your livlihood and then proceeds to make biilions of dollars profit, while you squander the remainder of your days in abject poverty.

Would that happen to be the same American Way that basically saved the world from Nazis, Fascists, Communists and Japanese Imperalists. The same American way that saved ANOTHER 6 million jews from being murdered, and rebuilt half the world on its own after World War 2, without which most of Europe would have starved. And if not for America, that little **** country of Mexico would be over populated and starving worse that it is already.

Ya know, I don't get all the hate on America. And your precious little Canada, without us, would be left completely defenseless and knowing you guys would role over and surrender to the first invader. The world should thank god everyday that we exist to protect little people like yourself in defenseless countries.
 
tabLengle said:
Would that happen to be the same American Way that basically saved the world from Nazis, Fascists, Communists and Japanese Imperalists. The same American way that saved ANOTHER 6 million jews from being murdered, and rebuilt half the world on its own after World War 2, without which most of Europe would have starved. And if not for America, that little **** country of Mexico would be over populated and starving worse that it is already.
It's easy to look up to a country when you overlook all of its faults. Sure, the US has done a lot of good in the world but it also has caused its fair share of problems. The "American Way" ain't all it's cracked up to be.
 
skruloos said:
It's easy to look up to a country when you overlook all of its faults. Sure, the US has done a lot of good in the world but it also has caused its fair share of problems. The "American Way" ain't all it's cracked up to be.

I see you're a half-empty kinda guy. And it's funny this type of attitude, like there aren't other countries/nations and people that are the same way.
 
skruloos said:
It's easy to look up to a country when you overlook all of its faults. Sure, the US has done a lot of good in the world but it also has caused its fair share of problems. The "American Way" ain't all it's cracked up to be.

Id say the the good we have done has by far outwieghed the bad. Again, we have rebuilt, not to mention saved, an entire f-ing continent. May not be perfect, but the American way is the BEST way.
 
tabLengle said:
Id say the the good we have done has by far outwieghed the bad. Again, we have rebuilt, not to mention saved, an entire f-ing continent. May not be perfect, but the American way is the BEST way.

For the moment... like every empire in history you guys will eventually fall against another system... it's a history law. Who would've thought during the rule of Octavius that the roman empire would fall? Same question applies for all the other empires in history. It's going to happen in one way or another.
 
tabLengle said:
Id say the the good we have done has by far outwieghed the bad. Again, we have rebuilt, not to mention saved, an entire f-ing continent. May not be perfect, but the American way is the BEST way.


Im pretty sure developing, creating, and using the Atomic bomb kinda offsets our national karma, bud. I dont see the Planet thanking us for coming up with suicide warfare.
 
Nivek said:
Im pretty sure developing, creating, and using the Atomic bomb kinda offsets our national karma, bud. I dont see the Planet thanking us for coming up with suicide warfare.

What you do not realize is that without the atomic bomb, we would've had to invade mainland Japan, which would have been much more devastating and caused a lot more casualities, civilian and military. It would have been much less humane to invade and probably made Normandy look like a walk in the park. It's a shame people don't realize this. Yes, it was horrible what happened, but it was necessary.

In fact, after the war, we helped Japan in having what is today one of the most successful economies in the world. They're doing pretty well today.
 
1. Soon I hope we will get full trailer, and people will know about SR coming in summer. Also magazines, posters and tv-spots.

2. There will be shots from STM and SII with Routh in SR as flashbacks, so people will know much about this movie.

3. Superman is American icon, and people should know their hero.
 
SolidSnakeMGS said:
I see you're a half-empty kinda guy. And it's funny this type of attitude, like there aren't other countries/nations and people that are the same way.
Of course there are. That's the point. The US is not necessarily any better than any other nation.
 
tabLengle said:
Id say the the good we have done has by far outwieghed the bad. Again, we have rebuilt, not to mention saved, an entire f-ing continent. May not be perfect, but the American way is the BEST way.
LOL. That's funny.
 
skruloos said:
Of course there are. That's the point. The US is not necessarily any better than any other nation.

Nor are they any worse. But people easily forget the good the U.S. has done and only seem to remember the bad, especially in attempts to start arguments. Nowadays it's hip and "fashionable" to bash the country, which is sad. There's a lot of generalization about Americans from certain people and it's so hypocritical for these people when they do it in the name of human rights.
 
SolidSnakeMGS said:
Nor are they any worse. But people easily forget the good the U.S. has done and only seem to remember the bad, especially in attempts to start arguments. Nowadays it's hip and "fashionable" to bash the country, which is sad. There's a lot of generalization about Americans from certain people and it's so hypocritical for these people when they do it in the name of human rights.
That's funny. I see it the other way. I see it as people not remembering the bad that the US actually does because they get so caught up in the American Propaganda machine. They slam other countries in order to make the US seem greater than it is. But hey, that's the American Way.
 
skruloos said:
That's funny. I see it the other way. I see it as people not remembering the bad that the US actually does because they get so caught up in the American Propaganda machine. They slam other countries in order to make the US seem greater than it is. But hey, that's the American Way.

I don't see that at all. And it's the other countries that are slamming the U.S. I see it everywhere, in the news, even in movies. Places like Germany, the UK, and many other places with a history of violent conquest calling the U.S. imperial. It's hypocritical.

They don't mention the billions in Aid we give to countries, or the countless missionary workers we send to other places to help out.

BTW, what is this "American Propaganda Machine" that you keep bringing up?
 
SolidSnakeMGS said:
I don't see that at all. And it's the other countries that are slamming the U.S. I see it everywhere, in the news, even in movies. Places like Germany, the UK, and many other places with a history of violent conquest calling the U.S. imperial. It's hypocritical.
Oh please. Like the US is innocent of slamming other countries for not joining its war on terror. And the US is imperial. We're just not obvious about it.

SolidSnakeMGS said:
They don't mention the billions in Aid we give to countries, or the countless missionary workers we send to other places to help out.
Or the countries we exploit for cheap labor for the profit of American businesses. Or the dictators we help set up to gain an economic foothold in a foreign industry.

SolidSnakeMGS said:
BTW, what is this "American Propaganda Machine" that you keep bringing up?
It's the machine that moves through the world indoctrinating American culture and products into every country. It's part of the economic imperialism that the US had been spearheading better part of the last century. It's the beast that got kicked up and put into full gear after the events of 9/11.
 
Nivek said:
Im pretty sure developing, creating, and using the Atomic bomb kinda offsets our national karma, bud. I dont see the Planet thanking us for coming up with suicide warfare.

SolidsnakeMGS pretty much covered it but allow me to retort that actually invading the island of Japan would have cost millions of American and Millions more Japanese lives because those people would hjave honestly fought until the last man. That was there way. The smarter thing to do for ARE soldiers was to scare them into sumbmission via the atomic bomb. And notice that they didnt surrender after the first bombing they still wanted to fight.

And yes we afterwards we helped rebuild them into the economic power they are today. And plus, Godzilla was created, so thats a plus right lol.

As far as countries like Iran getting the nuclear bomb, I blame the former Soviet Union. Thats were the got the parts and the plans, MANY years ago. Speaking of which, Russia is the most overrated piece of crap in histroy.
 
SolidSnakeMGS said:
I don't see that at all. And it's the other countries that are slamming the U.S. I see it everywhere, in the news, even in movies. Places like Germany, the UK, and many other places with a history of violent conquest calling the U.S. imperial. It's hypocritical.

They don't mention the billions in Aid we give to countries, or the countless missionary workers we send to other places to help out.

BTW, what is this "American Propaganda Machine" that you keep bringing up?

EXACTLY. Britian and Germany have a far more extensive history of bloodhsed and Imperialism than the U.S. could ever dream of, yet in todays " liberal " world, were satan. And as you stated, we basically fund the third world and rebuilt f-ing Germany when the country was in ruin.

As far as the Middle East is concerned, without us that place would tear itself and possibly the world apart. WITHOUT US, the rest of the world is screwed. Without us, there is no financial aid and there is no protection. As I stated earlier, than your lucky stars for the United States everyone, I know I do.
 
But now..the Brittish police the world.. and are first to help other countires in need..


i would say.. we have payed our dues..for past crimes.
 
skruloos said:
Oh please. Like the US is innocent of slamming other countries for not joining its war on terror. And the US is imperial. We're just not obvious about it.


Or the countries we exploit for cheap labor for the profit of American businesses. Or the dictators we help set up to gain an economic foothold in a foreign industry.


It's the machine that moves through the world indoctrinating American culture and products into every country. It's part of the economic imperialism that the US had been spearheading better part of the last century. It's the beast that got kicked up and put into full gear after the events of 9/11.

America is no Empire. Except for Iraq, we do not run countries in the Middle East, Asia, or Africa ala the former British Empire. THATS and empire.

Are cheap labor keeps that countires economies alive mind you, tough ***** that the gotta work a little for it and not be handed money like citizens on welfare.

And I really think American propoganda about how are way of life is better than living under some authoritarian leader is better than the lives those people live everyday so YES they should want to be like us because we have freedom damnit.
 
Alonsovich said:
For the moment... like every empire in history you guys will eventually fall against another system... it's a history law. Who would've thought during the rule of Octavius that the roman empire would fall? Same question applies for all the other empires in history. It's going to happen in one way or another.

Id like to think we won't fall, but your right, it's the law of history. I hope we can fight it though.

But if we fall, it will be from within. To steal from Hector in Troy, America will NEVER bow to a foriegn ruler.
 
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Dude what the hell are you on.. this is a superman movie site?
 

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