Sequels Would you be okay with Venom sans symbiote in a sequel?

[Anno_Domini]

I wanted a man-made Venom suit in Spider-Man 3 from the word go, as far as I'm concerned the alien suit just doesn't fit into the Spider-Man movie world. Spider-Man's movies were built and grounded in the world of science and technology not outer space and extraterrestrial.

Peter got spider powers how?...science,
Norman became the goblin how?...science,
Octavius became Octopus how?...science,
Marko got sand powers how?...science,......

...and then along comes this black space alien goop, it just doesn't fit.

Make Venom a result of scientific technological production intended for military applications which the intended design is to attach to a soldiers nervous system and offers a form of combat protection and regenerative healing capabilities. I would have the design called OPERATION: V.E.N.O.M

Versatile Experimental Nanotech Organic Material

Yeah I know all you Venom fans would hate that but it would make a hell of lot more sense than some damn random meteor dropping out of the sky.

I like this. Congrats on the idea.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Lizard, GG and Venom are obvious villains to know Peter Parker. Doc Ock is not, imo, and that's one thing that bugged me. Not that he worked at OsCorp but that he had a close relationship with Peter which should not be, imo. GG made sense and Venom made sense, but then Raimi did the same thing with Sandman with having it tied up to Peter in one way and it was a very poorly-executed way.

I didn't mind that Otto Octavius met Peter Parker prior to becoming Doctor Octopus in Spider-Man 2, but I agree with you about Sandman.

I wanted a man-made Venom suit in Spider-Man 3 from the word go, as far as I'm concerned the alien suit just doesn't fit into the Spider-Man movie world. Spider-Man's movies were built and grounded in the world of science and technology not outer space and extraterrestrial.

Peter got spider powers how?...science,
Norman became the goblin how?...science,
Octavius became Octopus how?...science,
Marko got sand powers how?...science,......

...and then along comes this black space alien goop, it just doesn't fit.

Make Venom a result of scientific technological production intended for military applications which the intended design is to attach to a soldiers nervous system and offers a form of combat protection and regenerative healing capabilities. I would have the design called OPERATION: V.E.N.O.M

Versatile Experimental Nanotech Organic Material

Yeah I know all you Venom fans would hate that but it would make a hell of lot more sense than some damn random meteor dropping out of the sky.

I think that might work.

 

[T-CLIPSE]

I like this. Congrats on the idea.

I think that might work.

Thanks guys I think it would work too. I've even thought about that idea to the point where I believe I could even work Silver Sable (who would be a government agent similar to Black Widow in Iron Man) who would be assigned to retrieve the suit from Brock into that premise.

 

[Anno_Domini]

I didn't mind that Otto Octavius met Peter Parker prior to becoming Doctor Octopus in Spider-Man 2

See, my biggest problem with the Otto/Peter relationship is that it would be perfect if it were Curt Connors instead of Otto. I mean, a married and sympathetic villain fits Connors so much more than Octavius. But, Raimi did choose to use Otto instead and it fits with the film, but it's just a problem I have. At least Raimi put some thought into how to use Otto instead of the cluster**** that was Sandman.

Thanks guys I think it would work too. I've even thought about that idea to the point where I believe I could even work Silver Sable (who would be a government agent similar to Black Widow in Iron Man) who would be assigned to retrieve the suit from Brock into that premise.

Bringing in Silver Sable is another nice idea and nice touch to use some other villain along with Venom.

 

[Spiderman6592]

What T-Clipse posted is essentially the same exact thing as "The Suit"...

 

[Anno_Domini]

What T-Clipse posted is essentially the same exact thing as "The Suit"...

It sounds much more quasi-realistic than "The Suit" that cures cancer or a sickness, though.

 

[©KAW]

And pretty much Ultimate Venom, oh noz.

 

[GoldGoblin]

Why not just make it a suit that Oscorp made for soldiers,because the suit gives them super strength.But the suit eats the person who wears it.

 

[Spiderman6592]

It sounds much more quasi-realistic than "The Suit" that cures cancer or a sickness, though.

"a suit that attaches to a soldiers nervous system and offers a form of combat protection and regenerative healing capabilities"

is more realistic than

"a suit that attaches to a person's nervous system and helps fight off sicknesses"?


wat.

It isn't a "cancer healing suit", if anyone hear actually read the comic, they'd know that it fights off sicknesses in general and Eddie says that it could have POTENTIALLY been developed into a suit that cures cancer.

lrn2reedplz.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Likewise:

In the Ultimate Spider-Man universe, the symbiote has vastly changed. The fathers of Peter Parker and Eddie Brock Jr. had created the suit as a protoplasmic cure for cancer. The first stage would be to cover the host's body and eliminate a disease in the patient's body. Stage Two would involve the suit enhancing the wearer's strength and natural abilities.

 

[Godzilla2014]

I don't think the alien nature of the symbiote was really a problem in Spider-Man 3. I would have preferred an origin for the symbiote more like the one fans speculated before Spider-Man 3's release (and was used in Spider-Man: The Animated Series & The Spectacular Spider-Man), with John Jameson bringing it back from space. That would have at least have allowed John Jameson to be remembered as more than "that guy that Mary Jane left at the altar in Spider-Man 2".

 

[Anno_Domini]

I don't think the alien nature of the symbiote was really a problem in Spider-Man 3. I would have preferred an origin for the symbiote more like the one fans speculated before Spider-Man 3's release (and was used in Spider-Man: The Animated Series & The Spectacular Spider-Man), with John Jameson bringing it back from space. That would have at least have allowed John Jameson to be remembered as more than "that guy that Mary Jane left at the altar in Spider-Man 2".

Continuity!

Would've made me happy for sure as everyone should know by now that I simply love continuity.

Take away Sandman, take away the Uncle Ben retcon, clean up the messes, keep John Jameson and use the origin seen in TAS and TSSM, strengthen the character arc of Harry for the third film, add some development to Eddie and Gwen and you will have an amazing Spider-Man 3, imo. Heck, even take out Captain Stacy since he isn't really needed if you don't use the Uncle Ben retcon.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Continuity!

Would've made me happy for sure as everyone should know by now that I simply love continuity.

Take away Sandman, take away the Uncle Ben retcon, clean up the messes, keep John Jameson and use the origin seen in TAS and TSSM, strengthen the character arc of Harry for the third film, add some development to Eddie and Gwen and you will have an amazing Spider-Man 3, imo. Heck, even take out Captain Stacy since he isn't really needed if you don't use the Uncle Ben retcon.

Agreed! You wouldn't need to remove Captain Stacy, you could just scale his role back or give him something else to do in the film.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Agreed! You wouldn't need to remove Captain Stacy, you could just scale his role back or give him something else to do in the film.

If you scale his role back he wouldn't have a second in the film, lol.

 

[©KAW]

Why not just make it a suit that Oscorp made for soldiers,because the suit gives them super strength.But the suit eats the person who wears it.

Haha...

Oh sh--

So, at the end of the movie Peter and Brock will be dead.

It eats the people who wears it.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Well that's how the symbiote was going to be portrayed as read in the Spider-Man 3 novelization. After Peter departed from the suit, it angered it so much that it FED on Eddie Brock all the while it was with Eddie and during the construction scene, it left Eddie and all that was left was skeletal remains. Then Spidey had to just fight the symbiote.

 

[Troy_Parker]

But then it was a living, alien entity. That had some consciousness.

 

[Spiderman6592]

Likewise:

Nice! You took something out of context and utilized it to your advantage! You're learning!

 

[Anno_Domini]

Nice! You took something out of context and utilized it to your advantage! You're learning!

Ahh kiddo, relax...people get things wrong sometimes on here, it's okay

 

[Spiderman6592]

That doesn't even make sense, but okay.

 

[Anno_Domini]

That doesn't even make sense, but okay.

Lol. You were too slow to understand that last post, so no wonder you got it wrong with "The Suit".

 

[Troy_Parker]

 

[Anno_Domini]

Give me some of that popcorn!

 

[Spiderman6592]

No, you just chose to selectively quote part of my post explaining "The Suit" by completely leaving out the fact that I mentioned the suit was designed to fight off any sickness that was encountered by the body. It's ultimate goal was to be the cure for cancer. But that's all irrelevant. It still doesn't answer the question of how you could possibly arrive at the thought of the suit being a performance enhancer with regenerative capabilities being more believable or, quasi-realistic, than a suit that helps fight off sickness and disease...

 

[Troy_Parker]

Edit: Oh, nvm.