Sequels Would you change Spidey's costume???

The guys making the jokes indeed are very moronic but the point is not about them cracking jokes, it's that people just would not take Spider-Man seriously in that kind of costume. The fact that more people could not take the suit as seriously or just didn't like the suit's look shows that the suit may have been a bad choice in the end. It could be the material, it could be that people just didn't like the suit, but I do know that they mostly preferred the black suit of the movie to the direction they were going in.


Not quite how you described. It was a casual conversation while we were in the library and I showed some friends the pics from the book and more people crowded over to see what it was about. My numbers may have been off but I'm completely sure there were about 40 people total who looked at that suit and stated their reaction to it. If anything the number was higher because they passed the book around. 4 of which, I know for a fact said it was cool. The main reaction was "Ugh...I like the movie suit..." "This looks..interesting..." "Goddamn, good thing they didn't use this." "Um, yeah....no..." "WTF is this?" "Ew..." and "Who the hell came up with this thing?" While this doesn't all say the black suit in the movie was great, they definitely held the suit to a higher opinion than the one they pictured in their head based off the pictures.

Sure it wasn't finished, but it's incredibly obvious what direction the suit was going in. That material + silver symbiote spider is what was the obvious suit idea; I did not once tell them the suit was completed, only that they were thinking of using that type of suit. Hell, you could make that argument AGAINST the people in here saying that would have been cool.

I'm not saying that the black suit of the comics would never work when adapted (I should have been more specific prior), I'm saying that to say the fetish suit shown there was the right way to go for a movie that is attempting a sort of realism that the movie holds just doesn't work. Take Batman movies for instance; they haven't used grey tights and black/blue gloves/boots/cowl since the 60s and people think of the black armor/rubbery suit for Batman because it fits the "realistic representation" shown in movies.

Not everything in the comics works for movies represented in the shown ways, no matter how hard we want them to work. I actually do prefer the black suit in the comics (and I honestly hope they don't attempt throwing the movie's black suit into the comics; that would be horrible in my opinion) but I know that in a movie, it'd be awkward to see Spider-Man running around in that.

Tell me, would YOU want Spider-Man running around in shiny black latex with the only details being a silver spider on the front and back? I certainly wouldn't. So if that's the biggest load you've heard all day, that's alright; you're entitled to your opinion. But I'm just saying my opinion and the opinions of others who commented on the suits.

I apologize, I understand your points now.

The entire black suit itself would have been better if they had just added the white symbiote symbol, but you could say that's just nitpicking.:oldrazz:
 
I agree with not going with black latex, but the take the movie black suit minus the webbing and ad classic spiders, silver or white

That may have worked on film. it's all about lighting. The trick is to shoot it brighter then digitallu alter it to appear darker. if you shoot it black as night then it won't work. there is no information in black video, just waisted pixels

i think i'll try a manip of my idea.

either way both suits look good. i was very excited to see the transformation of the symbiote suit on the big screen
 
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really quick manip of the hybrid movie/comic suit. problems lie with zippers and seams but it's hollywood they could have made it work
 
That looks fantastic! Has a great texture to it as well.

An all black suit could definitely have worked. Like you said, it's all about lighting. Batman wears completely black in the films and he doesn't look like an ink blob, that argument doesn't hold with Spidey either.
 
I attempted to comment on this but the site wasn't working before.. Anyways, That's a LARGE improvement over the fetish-suit they had in store for us. The audience might have been curious as to why the suit had such a radical change, but this is definitely an A+ Black suit for the movies. I'd love to see this fully editted and in motion, though.. That's still damn good for a quicky, though.

Plus, it has such a difference from the normal black suit, they could technically and possibly actually use this if they wanted to give Spidey a darker feel or stealth-type thing.
 
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really quick manip of the hybrid movie/comic suit. problems lie with zippers and seams but it's hollywood they could have made it work
Thats All that I wanted from the suit. Thats all!
 
It looks better, but it presents the logical fallacy of why there is a white Spider logo. Did the symbiote have a burst of creative inspiration or what?
 
It looks better, but it presents the logical fallacy of why there is a white Spider logo. Did the symbiote have a burst of creative inspiration or what?

Well, what about Venom? He has a large white spider on his chest. There is no reason why not to have spider-man with an all black and white suit.
 
Well, what about Venom? He has a large white spider on his chest. There is no reason why not to have spider-man with an all black and white suit.

If you're referring to movie Venom, I missed the large white spider on his chest. Last time I checked, it was just a distorted version of Spider-Man's logo.
 
If you're referring to movie Venom, I missed the large white spider on his chest. Last time I checked, it was just a distorted version of Spider-Man's logo.
Venom's symbol in the movie is very similar to his in the comic, but it remains limited to his chest like Spider-Man's. One could look at it as being the movie's black costume spider but bigger and with the legs pointing the wrong way, actually.
 
It looks better, but it presents the logical fallacy of why there is a white Spider logo. Did the symbiote have a burst of creative inspiration or what?

It looks much better. It doesn't present anymore logic fallacy than where in the blue hell the thing even came from. It just dropped from the sky with absolutely no explanation. It's a large white spider symbol appearing on black goo that enhances your strength and takes control of your body...and the white symbol ruins it for you? You're just fine with an alien symbiote appearing out of nowhere but "logic fallacy" is all of a sudden present as soon as a white symbol is on his suit?

Sure.
 
I didn't like Venoms look through the whole movie so....that could be it too....
 
It looks much better. It doesn't present anymore logic fallacy than where in the blue hell the thing even came from. It just dropped from the sky with absolutely no explanation. It's a large white spider symbol appearing on black goo that enhances your strength and takes control of your body...and the white symbol ruins it for you? You're just fine with an alien symbiote appearing out of nowhere but "logic fallacy" is all of a sudden present as soon as a white symbol is on his suit?

Sure.

It's totally different. There are different types of suspension of disbelief... something might be scientifically improbable (i.e. Sandman, Spider-Man's actual powers), but the notion of an alien substance (which is not unbelievable in and of itself) somehow manfesting a new logo for a costume just makes no f***ing sense whatsoever. It doesn't make any sense as to how it would happen, or why it would happen. And that goes for Venom's costume too.

In the case of Spider-Man and Sandman's acquiring their powers, it serves the plot. It is in no way grounded in science, but if a guy needs to acquire spider-powers, and a guy needs to become a sandcreature, then that's how you do it. But having a big white spider logo just appear on a guy due to some strange alien substance... it serves no purpose other than to arbitrarily make the costume "cooler looking."
 
It's totally different. There are different types of suspension of disbelief... something might be scientifically improbable (i.e. Sandman, Spider-Man's actual powers), but the notion of an alien substance (which is not unbelievable in and of itself) somehow manfesting a new logo for a costume just makes no f***ing sense whatsoever. It doesn't make any sense as to how it would happen, or why it would happen. And that goes for Venom's costume too.

In the case of Spider-Man and Sandman's acquiring their powers, it serves the plot. It is in no way grounded in science, but if a guy needs to acquire spider-powers, and a guy needs to become a sandcreature, then that's how you do it. But having a big white spider logo just appear on a guy due to some strange alien substance... it serves no purpose other than to arbitrarily make the costume "cooler looking."

Or maybe staying true to the source material and respecting what over 60 years of Marvel comics built
 
It's totally different. There are different types of suspension of disbelief... something might be scientifically improbable (i.e. Sandman, Spider-Man's actual powers), but the notion of an alien substance (which is not unbelievable in and of itself) somehow manfesting a new logo for a costume just makes no f***ing sense whatsoever. It doesn't make any sense as to how it would happen, or why it would happen. And that goes for Venom's costume too.

having a big white spider logo just appear on a guy due to some strange alien substance... it serves no purpose other than to arbitrarily make the costume "cooler looking."
well the symbiot did "randomly" change his symbol in the movie anyway... and that didnt bother anyone, so that arguement doesnt really work

btw, that manip above is fantastic, what i wouldnt give to see that onscreen instead
 
well the symbiot did "randomly" change his symbol in the movie anyway... and that didnt bother anyone, so that arguement doesnt really work

btw, that manip above is fantastic, what i wouldnt give to see that onscreen instead

A good portion of the people who would apply critical analysis to that sort of thing probably didn't even notice Venom's logo. It doesn't exactly stand out. Trust me, if Spider-Man had a logo like that, no one would fail to catch it, and the logic (or lack thereof) behind it would be discussed.

It's like mechanical webshooters. I know people here who are still loyal to the concept, but I really don't buy it. Organic is far and away the better way to go with that, for exactly the reasons Sam gave. Plus, I was never exactly sure how he managed to have those clunky little machines under his costume without so much as a lump on his wrist.
 
A good portion of the people who would apply critical analysis to that sort of thing probably didn't even notice Venom's logo. It doesn't exactly stand out. Trust me, if Spider-Man had a logo like that, no one would fail to catch it, and the logic (or lack thereof) behind it would be discussed.

It's like mechanical webshooters. I know people here who are still loyal to the concept, but I really don't buy it. Organic is far and away the better way to go with that, for exactly the reasons Sam gave. Plus, I was never exactly sure how he managed to have those clunky little machines under his costume without so much as a lump on his wrist.


True dat. I like the fact that Parker's intelligence was touched on, but not mad a central part of the movie.
 
I wish they made Venom look how he looks in the comics...:(
 
I wish they made Venom look how he looks in the comics...:(
Aside from his twisted webbing, he pretty much DOES look like he does in the comics (moreso his original appearance who isn't on steroids). In some points they show Venom, he IS incredibly jacked up, however, such as when Spider-Man is using the pipes to make a cage.
 
Aside from his twisted webbing, he pretty much DOES look like he does in the comics (moreso his original appearance who isn't on steroids). In some points they show Venom, he IS incredibly jacked up, however, such as when Spider-Man is using the pipes to make a cage.
Venom was incredibly jacked in his first appearence, he'd be like the biggest man on earth in real life. now compared to the ones where hes like 15 feet tall.... yah not quite as jacked
 

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