'X-Men' Director Being Sued For Sex Abuse Allegations

[Dr. Evil]

How long was it for the allegations for Roman Polansky to come up?

 

[InJustice]

Just read peoples reactions here. It isnt difficult to arrive at this conclusion.

Who is to say that this isnt another one of those moments where someone is looking to blackmail a rich person or institution for money at the right time? If the intent is justice there here hundreds of other opportunities this could have been made. It could be true, but the fact this claim is being made right now where the project is at its marketing peak, right at the moment it can hurt the profits of the film, it can easily be seen as strategic for gain. It certainly weakens the intent of the claim. We cant automatically assume anything but the context does play a part here.

It isn't difficult to arrive at that conclusion, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything when it comes to dealing with a potentially huge case like this. The only thing that should be of concern here is whether Singer broke the law or not. The same goes for context, especially if Singer is found guilty, then the context basically means nothing.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Yikes. I won't come to a conclusion either way, but I want to clear up a couple misconceptions I'm reading here:

1) The timing as it pertains to DOFP is notable, but it is quite common for legitimate victims to wait years to come forward. There are myriad reasons: it can take a while to sort through it emotionally; past attempts to settle could have failed; maybe a key witness has only recently agreed to cooperated; or maybe DOFP is simply not a concern to the plaintiff at all (I think we think our little world is more important than it is). It does not, in and of itself, suggest that the charges are false.

2) The fact that the plaintiff's attorney has done similar cases is also, in and of itself, not necessarily a reason to doubt the veracity of the claims. Lawyers get experience in certain types of cases and take on similar cases in the future. It's standard practice to specialize.

I'm not taking a side either way, but all these assumptions being made are troubling. A wait-and-see attitude is prudent right now. Let's not throw dirt on the plaintiff, Singer, the lawyer, or anyone, because this is why we have a legal system.

The legal system is not flawless.

and if there's an out of court settlement, which is likely, it wouldn't really prove anything.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

The fact this claim is being made right now where the project is at its marketing peak, right at the moment it can hurt the profits of the film, it can easily be seen as strategic for gain. It certainly weakens the intent of the claim. We cant automatically assume anything but the context does play a part here. They are looking for a big time settlement, problem is that they need a sound proof this happened in the way its being described. Unless there is a video or a witness it be difficult to get anywhere.

Do they really need sound proof though?

Is it uncommon for people to settle simply to avoid trial?

 

[Sun_Down]

I'd probably believe the allegations if the victim wasn't seeking money.

I truly don't get this argument. If the criminal justice system has declined to prosecute, civil suits for damages are the only other legal recourse that you have. Where the act can't be undone, or your not asking someone to refrain from doing something, money is the way you vindicate your rights.

The legal system is not flawless.

and if there's an out of court settlement, which is likely, it wouldn't really prove anything.

I don't recall saying anything to the effect that the legal system is flawless. But it is surely a hell of a lot better than ill-informed people with an agenda on the internet speculating wildly.

Again, I have no idea what, if anything, actually happened. But these "well they did X, so Y" arguments are fallacies.

 

[Harry Dresden]

I'd probably believe the allegations if the victim wasn't seeking money.

But we're supposed to believe he was forced to get on a plane, forced to go to a party, forced to snort cocaine and forced to have sex.

That's alot of trouble for Singer to go through just to get laid.

Rapists and molesters have done a lot worse just to get 'laid'.

 

[Dr. Evil]

From Variety:

Singer’s attorney, Marty Singer, called the lawsuit “absurd and defamatory.”

“The claims made against Bryan Singer are completely without merit,” the attorney said. “We are very confident that Bryan will be vindicated.”

 

[Anita18]

There's been rumors about Singer and young boys for years. Parties that Singer and Roland Emmerich throw are infamous in Hollywood.

I've heard this too.

I know rumors and gossip are just rumors and gossip but...this doesn't surprise me at all, unfortunately. When there's smoke, there's usually fire.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

But that's the only recourse at this point. I truly don't get this argument. If the criminal justice system has declined to prosecute, civil suits for damages are the only other recourse. You can't sue for an apology.


I don't recall saying anything to the effect that the legal system is flawless. But it is surely a hell of a lot better than ill-informed people with an agenda on the internet speculating wildly.

Again, I have no idea what, if anything, actually happened. But these "well they did X, so Y" arguments are fallacies.

I'm just pointing out that an out of court settlement wouldn't verify guilt or innocence.

This probably won't go to trail. The details are too embarrassing for the suspect. So the speculation is unlikely to be ended by a legal outcome.

 

[SuperT]

I'm not taking sides either way on this issue since it's just been made public but I absolutely HATE when people say things like "Why now?" or "Why did it take so many years to come forward."

Me, and probably a good majority of people here, have never experienced sexual abuse but it could take YEARS for someone to be emotionally ready to come face to face with what happened, especially something as terrible as this sounds.

The timing may be a little weird but it's not anything out of the ordinary for many victims. I hope for the victims sake and everyone else involved it's not true.

 

[The Guard]

While I agree that in many cases, it takes years for victims of sexual abuse to come forward, that often, from a legal standpoint, doesn't make for a particularly strong case. I do think "Why now?" is a pretty legitimate question. With regard to "where there's smoke, there's fire"...that works on several levels. The same holds true with a lawsuit filed now, right before the release of Singer's biggest movie ever.

While Singer's wild parties are legendary, and there have been rumors of him and young men, on the surface, this story would have a lot more credibility if the timing of the suit wasn't what it is (or is it the timing of the story itself?). That's almost certainly a leverage move.

 

[Marvolo]

I'm not taking sides either way on this issue since it's just been made public but I absolutely HATE when people say things like "Why now?" or "Why did it take so many years to come forward."

Me, and probably a good majority of people here, have never experienced sexual abuse but it could take YEARS for someone to be emotionally ready to come face to face with what happened, especially something as terrible as this sounds.

The timing may be a little weird but it's not anything out of the ordinary for many victims. I hope for the victims sake and everyone else involved it's not true.

Not to mention some victims just just dont want the spotlight shined on them or to be attacked further. Its no secret that victims sometimes find themselves blamed for their own rape. As if they didnt yell No loud enough or invited the rape. It makes victims not want to come out and tell their story.

 

[The Guard]

Well, there's definitely a gray area to some "events".

Not rape, necessarily, but certain sexual situations.

Drug-filled parties seems to be rife with them.

 

[titansupes]

I'm on the 'innocent until proven guilty' side of things. I think a lot of people seem to be jumping on Singer because they don't like his approach to X-Men/Superman, or just because he's gay. The guy that said he's boycotting DoFP... ridiculous.

And to those who say of the alleged victim "Why now?"... Google "Hey Dad star Robert Hughes". Fellow Aussies will know what I'm talking about. He was the main character/father in a very popular sitcom down here in the late 80's/early 90's, the equivalent to The Brady Bunch. A week or two ago, he was convicted of 10 or 11 counts of sexual abuse. The whistle blowers (and one of the victims) were the now grown actors who had played his children on the show. Sometimes, it can take people a long time to come to terms with what happened to them, and to muster the courage to come forward.

But as I said, it would be silly of me to judge Singer or his accuser right now.

 

[SuperT]

Not to mention some victims just just dont want the spotlight shined on them or to be attacked further. Its no secret that victims sometimes find themselves blamed for their own rape. As if they didnt yell No loud enough or invited the rape. It makes victims not want to come out and tell their story.

BINGO! We live in a culture where we LOVE to victim blame. Sad, but true.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Rapists and molesters have done a lot worse just to get 'laid'.

If the victim said he willingly flew to Hawaii, willingly went to the party, willingly did drugs, but was raped as a result it would seem far more realistic than being forced to fly to Hawaii, forced to go a party, forced to do drugs, and forced to have sex.

That raises a red flag to me. Like the alleged victim wants to seem especially innocent in everything that occurred.

 

[The Guard]

Yup.

 

[Harry Dresden]

If the victim said he willingly flew to Hawaii, willingly went to the party, willingly did drugs, but was raped as a result it would seem far more realistic than being forced to fly to Hawaii, forced to go a party, forced to do drugs, and forced to have sex.

That raises a red flag to me. Like the alleged victim wants to seem especially innocent in everything that occurred.

Why would he not fly to Hawaii?

Why would he not go to the party?

It's not like he was aware that he was going to be raped.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

BINGO! We live in a culture where we LOVE to victim blame. Sad, but true.

Who's blaming the victim?

The so-called victim could be exaggerating his claims and timing his lawsuit in hopes of cashing in.

It's a very real possibility.

This case is worth millions.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Why would he not fly to Hawaii?

Why would he not go to the party?

It's not like he was aware that he was going to be raped.

Yeah, I'm not doubting that someone would willingly go to a Hollywood orgy in Hawaii and do drugs.

I'm just skeptical when someone says they were forced to take part in everything since before they got on plane toward Hawaii.

 

[The Guard]

There's a ridiculous amount of detail about these alleged incidents in that Wrap report.

 

[craigdbfan]

Eh, this whole thing reeks.

Why wait so long?

Even if all of that did happen I'm sure it was consensual and the guy was probably on the verge of being 18. That's more than old enough to know what the heck you're getting yourself into.

This whole thing is an outlandish sham.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

It's a little bizarre how seemingly most of the internet has already chosen a side to defend, no matter the cost. You can already see it in this thread.

I think I prefer to remain neutral and view from the sidelines. And not closely because the whole debacle is distasteful imo.

 

[Mr. Dent]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apt_Pupil_(film)

Tthis is some Jerry Sandusky ****

 

[GRangerPrimeNYC]

Eh, this whole thing reeks.

Why wait so long?

Even if all of that did happen I'm sure it was consensual and the guy was probably on the verge of being 18. That's more than old enough to know what the heck you're getting yourself into.

This whole thing is an outlandish sham.

Agreed