X-Men = Dragonball Z?!?!

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Haven't read any X-Men since the late 80s early 90s, but I have been looking at "characters" lately and it seems like X-Men is more and more like DBZ. With each now character "more powerful" than the other.

One goes from a mutant, to an "omega mutant" much like a Saiyan and Super Saiyan. I mean wtf. Just way too twinky for me. I guess this new generation of comic readers just want bigger badder-ass characters.




PS: Vulcan is a twink. He should hook up with the Phoenix. :down:down:down
 
Oy. I'm not even going to start.
 
What you a refering to, is a phenomena in comics known as 'power inflation'. Decent writers tend to avoid it as it can lead to problems with continuity and a general decrease in quality. Take pre Crisis Superman as a Prime example. His power was increased to such dramatic levels, that writers where continually having to create Dues Ex machina scenarios (Plot devices) to have him threatened. It took genius, such as Alan Moore to create any worth while story lines. :) Its hardly a process that shouldly be regarded as 'Badass'.
 
You don't go from mutant to omega mutant. Omega is just a classification, like say Alpha mutant. I really can't even say any other comparison between X-Men and DBZ.
 
Harlekin said:
You don't go from mutant to omega mutant. Omega is just a classification, like say Alpha mutant. I really can't even say any other comparison between X-Men and DBZ.

Except for tedious speeches about equality and the sancity of life :)
 
As I've never given two ****s about DBZ or any other Manga/Anime crap, I'm afraid th' comparison's lost on me.
 
I hate this thread with a passion that is unending.
 
Rage...building...

Soaring...out of control...

Must...calm...down...must....









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RAAAAAAAAARGH!
 
bulok said:
Haven't read any X-Men since the late 80s early 90s, but I have been looking at "characters" lately and it seems like X-Men is more and more like DBZ. With each now character "more powerful" than the other.

One goes from a mutant, to an "omega mutant" much like a Saiyan and Super Saiyan. I mean wtf. Just way too twinky for me. I guess this new generation of comic readers just want bigger badder-ass characters.




PS: Vulcan is a twink. He should hook up with the Phoenix. :down:down:down


That's the problem with not reading the comics and just looking at "characters", you'd realize that you're taking things out of context and looking foolish by making assumptions. Did you expect the characters to stay with the same power level throughout the years? Or those that have the same power levels to NOT gain any more control over their powers? That'd be a trad unrealistic, don't you think? What's more, their power levels fluctuate depending on the writer they have. Iceman is a prime example, one moment he's a badass and the next he's back to ice beams and ice slides.

DBZ? Please! None of the X-Men start shouting for 3 episodes to up their power level and then grow their now blonde hair and grow muscles so they can fire mega beams all over the place.:p:D
 
Know who'd love this thread? Jplaya.
 
So whats Wolverine up to SSJ?
















































I have no idea what SSJ means. I got it from the DBZ kids who always post with it in there name.
 
Not that I don't see what your saying, but I don't totally agree. Like in the above mentioned Wolverines case, while from when he started out he has increased in power he's one of the more grounded characters IMO. Second everything was in order he lost his adamantium and most of his healing factor. He gets his healing factor back and gets turned into more animal than man. Later on he gets his adamantium back but loses his healing factor. Plus you never see him 'hulking' up and lifting a building. That's partly why I like the character, because he's always battling an inner demon, and somethings always going wrong, plus he's never reversed time or went cosmic :). Plus characters like Cyke haven't really increased in powers, only their characters have been more fleshed out, well kinda. Plus they replaced former teammates like cable, bishop and so on with characters like maggot and marrow, while not bad characters their not uber powerful super saijin type increases to the team lol.

Now I do agree with you some characters are tho. Which is why I slowly like Hulk less and less. For awhile I tried to get back into him, but everytime you read he's a bit more powerful. He went on a craze of breaking all the comic rules, he bent adamantium, he stopped the Juggernaut, probably tossed the blob across the world or something....hmm what other rules can he break lol. Only thing he's missing now is superspeed.

But while the teen and up to adult comic readers might like their characters with flaws, the little kid audience tends to like the 'Oh! ****' moments where they reach never before power limits and do some rediculously stupid ultimate feat. Then the writers feel they have to keep topping that to make the readers come back. Least that's how I feel it is in my mind.
 
Tropico said:
DBZ? Please! None of the X-Men start shouting for 3 episodes to up their power level and then grow their now blonde hair and grow muscles so they can fire mega beams all over the place.:p:D


Nah but Wolverine does scream every five minutes runs straight into battle only to get blasted back on his ass:up:
 
Guyverjay said:
Nah but Wolverine does scream every five minutes runs straight into battle only to get blasted back on his ass:up:

I'm sorry, did I hurt your widdle DBZ feelings? Awwwwww.:p:D I'm surprised at you, Guyver! You're supposed to be far more knowledgeable in comic matters. Wolverine screaming every 5 minutes?! Puh-leeze!!! You should know by now..........................................................he growls.:o




:p:p:D
 
Tropico said:
I'm sorry, did I hurt your widdle DBZ feelings? Awwwwww.:p:D I'm surprised at you, Guyver! You're supposed to be far more knowledgeable in comic matters. Wolverine screaming every 5 minutes?! Puh-leeze!!! You should know by now..........................................................he growls.:o




:p:p:D


I don't know what widdle means, sorry:(

Also I really don't see how my comic knowledge has any relevence either

Call me Confused

But you knows its true, I used to have this very same argument with a guy in school when he said Wolvie was better than Spider-man

Wolvie:rarrrrrghhh

2 seconds later

Wolvie: arrrghhhh

Rinse repeat
 
bulok said:
Haven't read any X-Men since the late 80s early 90s, but I have been looking at "characters" lately and it seems like X-Men is more and more like DBZ. With each now character "more powerful" than the other.

One goes from a mutant, to an "omega mutant" much like a Saiyan and Super Saiyan. I mean wtf. Just way too twinky for me. I guess this new generation of comic readers just want bigger badder-ass characters.

PS: Vulcan is a twink. He should hook up with the Phoenix. :down:down:down

Omega level mutants aren't that tough, though.
Seriously, if you're going to make that comparison, think about it.
Chuck Xavier is an Omega, and he's been crippled like four different times
Kid Omega went down like a little *****; his secondary mutation almost killed him
Are the Stepford Cuckoos Omegas? 'Cause they suck at it, what with Esme gone and Sophie dead.
When was the last time crap like that happened to a Super Saiyan?
 
FadingCB said:
Not that I don't see what your saying, but I don't totally agree. Like in the above mentioned Wolverines case, while from when he started out he has increased in power he's one of the more grounded characters IMO. Second everything was in order he lost his adamantium and most of his healing factor. He gets his healing factor back and gets turned into more animal than man. Later on he gets his adamantium back but loses his healing factor. Plus you never see him 'hulking' up and lifting a building. That's partly why I like the character, because he's always battling an inner demon, and somethings always going wrong, plus he's never reversed time or went cosmic :). Plus characters like Cyke haven't really increased in powers, only their characters have been more fleshed out, well kinda. Plus they replaced former teammates like cable, bishop and so on with characters like maggot and marrow, while not bad characters their not uber powerful super saijin type increases to the team lol.

Now I do agree with you some characters are tho. Which is why I slowly like Hulk less and less. For awhile I tried to get back into him, but everytime you read he's a bit more powerful. He went on a craze of breaking all the comic rules, he bent adamantium, he stopped the Juggernaut, probably tossed the blob across the world or something....hmm what other rules can he break lol. Only thing he's missing now is superspeed.

But while the teen and up to adult comic readers might like their characters with flaws, the little kid audience tends to like the 'Oh! ****' moments where they reach never before power limits and do some rediculously stupid ultimate feat. Then the writers feel they have to keep topping that to make the readers come back. Least that's how I feel it is in my mind.
well put
 
Wow, DBZ gets bad when you grow up and realize the plots take forever and there is little to no character development at all. One episode of the X-men cartoon had more plot development in it than an entire season of Dragonball Z. I mean, it took them like 12 episodes to get through 5 minutes of the planet exploding. X-men in no way resembles or equals DBZ. X-men and DBZ should never be mentioned in the same sentence ever again, because X-men will always be far superior to DBZ.
 
Speedball - that was because of the time difference between the creation of the show and the creation of the Manga. The show started when Akira Toriyama was well into creating the DB manga, but the TV show was able to be produced much more quickly and as a result caught up with the plot in the manga. So in order to slow things down so taht they didn't run out of story to tell, they ended up stretching out many scenes that actually went rather quickly in the original story. They also introduced many subplots, scenes (and at least one whole storyline) that weren't in the manga at all
 
Whatever, I still kinda think the show is kinda blah now. I guess i/m kinda tired of hearing about manga and anime.
 
Manga and anime in general? cause you know, there's far more mature manga and anime out there than DBZ
 

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