Apocalypse X-men Movie Continuity Explained!

[CyclopsSummers]

I think people gotta let these continuity issues go. Even though First Class wasn't really a reboot.

FC is a prequel, with retconning some things from original trilogy

 

[dax]

How i see it is that helman looks abit young to be danny hustons stryker since wasn't the scene of stryker recruiting logan and victor also in the 70s? wasn't it 1976 or something i dunno but either way helman would have to believably become huston in a couple of years

The Vietnam scene in Origins should be set in 1975 during the fall of Saigon. Although, I agree that 2 years is way too short for Stryker to age rapidly so let's count this as another one of Bryan's continuity screwups.

 

[marvelrobbins]

With Singer's latest comments on timeline i think it's best now to think of
First Class as reboot.and the future scenes of DOFP as possable futures

If they dismiss future ending of DOFP that also does away with upcoming wolverine solo film.hell based on latest comments even deadpool could be
dismissed at later time since it's set In present and a future X-Men film could introduce version of Colossus that conterdicts deadpool version.

 

[psylockolussus]

Nope, for the 100th hundred it wasn't a reboot.

They wouldn't even mentioning X1 to X3, or consider its events if it was a reboot.

Again new timeline doesn't equal to reboot. Story-wise - Timeline A had to exist and happen for Timeline B to exist in the first place, thats what you don't get. They could erase everything but that won't change that X1/X2/X3 led to DOFP then DOFP led to Apocalypse/New timeline.

You can't just watch First Class then DOFP then Apocalypse and say all of it makes me perfect sense. You have to watch the X1 to X3 at least to get the whole picture.

 

[marvelrobbins]

yes it was.Not only did they erase trilogy as Singer and kinberg both openly said but now Singer is saying they could ignore the future ending of DOFP In future.Jubilee being a student In Apocalypse longer than Cyclops and Jean make it clear.They are hinting they may redo phoenix and BTS pic hints by end of apocalypse magneto may be at mansion opening door for him to be new wolverine in future films.comments back that up with family said to be coming back together.

 

[psylockolussus]

Again a reboot is something like The Amazing Spider-Man or Batman Begins or Fant4stic - whatever happened in Sm3 (story-wise) has no business to what happened in TASM3. Same thing to Batman Begins/Fant4stic.

You can't say that DOFP did that same thing. Just watching DOFP, you even have clips from X1/X2/X3 so how can that be a reboot? just no. Story-wise its all connected.

 

[Eddie]

I'm glad you brought up those clips. There were also clips from Origins. Therefore, Origins counts, Wade Wilson is a very youthful looking elderly man in his new appearance, and Channing Tatum is playing a senior citizen in Gambit, which is allegedly set in the present despite Gambit being born in the 50's in the film timeline.

Here's your X-Men continuity explained. There is no ******* continuity. The people involved aren't very good at planning that sort of thing.

 

[marvelrobbins]

when you erase trilogy yeah DOFP was reboot.When you say there is no contunity anymore then yes it is reboot.different kind than the others mentioned but still a reboot.

The talk on timelines and stuff from SInger and Kinberg make that clear.

 

[psylockolussus]

when you erase trilogy yeah DOFP was reboot.When you say there is no contunity anymore then yes it is reboot.different kind than the others mentioned but still a reboot.

The talk on timelines and stuff from SInger and Kinberg make that clear.

They erased events of the trilogy in Timeline B (which is not even clear if all are erased, Professor X's wheelchair in X1 isn't erased).... those events only happened in Timeline A. Thats different from completely ignoring and retconning the events.

 

[night0205]

FC was written like a reboot, but then they decided it wasn't when the mcu took off, because fox wanted to create its own universe. Even though Bryan Singer stated that OT is in another timeline and will not happen in future, he already stated that he views Apocalypse as the final movie in a six part saga (that includes OT). So, yes, FC is not a reboot.

 

[Jumpman]

Nope, for the 100th hundred it wasn't a reboot.

They wouldn't even mentioning X1 to X3, or consider its events if it was a reboot.

Again new timeline doesn't equal to reboot. Story-wise - Timeline A had to exist and happen for Timeline B to exist in the first place, thats what you don't get. They could erase everything but that won't change that X1/X2/X3 led to DOFP then DOFP led to Apocalypse/New timeline.

You can't just watch First Class then DOFP then Apocalypse and say all of it makes me perfect sense. You have to watch the X1 to X3 at least to get the whole picture.

This.

Don't forget about THE WOLVERINE as well. The only film you "could" in theory wipe out is ORIGINS, which is okay.

 

[psylockolussus]

To put it simply, they are cherry picking what they want in Timeline B. With time-travel, they basically have the opportunity to rewrite things. Though that doesn't mean they would practically change everything. You still got X3's roster in DOFP's new future? so some things just never change. Even if the journey was different, they still ended up in the mansion because some things just never change.

I mean, like, if I had the power to time-travel, there are certain things that I would like to change in my life and there are certain things that I would like to still be the same.

With how Bryan Singer and company are handling this, IMO they are cherry picking what they want to keep and while they are it, they are giving back stories which weren't explored in the original trilogy.

 

[marvelrobbins]

FC was written like a reboot, but then they decided it wasn't when the mcu took off, because fox wanted to create its own universe. Even though Bryan Singer stated that OT is in another timeline and will not happen in future, he already stated that he views Apocalypse as the final movie in a six part saga (that includes OT). So, yes, FC is not a reboot.

I disagree.FC was very much intended like a prequel probally because another wolverine film was coming.The time travel In DOFP was 1:To help create intrest In films they brought back original cast and 2:They rebooted through time travel so the First Class cast are now stars of franchise.even more so now that Jackman Is on his way out

Singer's comments on Apocalypse as final film in six part saga makes no sense since he himself is now saying they may discard future ending of DOFP In future.

The X-Men trilogy matter now as much as first 20 james bond films do and they still called spectre the 24th james Bond film.

The problem is they are trying to have it both ways.they want to overwrite original films for FC and make younger cast stars of franchise yet at same time trying to act like they are connected to earlier films.

 

[psylockolussus]

Singer's comments on Apocalypse as final film in six part saga makes no sense since he himself is now saying they may discard future ending of DOFP In future.

Or maybe he's just toying with us because people keep saying that DOFP's ending undermine the stakes of Apocalypse and upcoming inbetween/prequel films? Because it does.

But of course he could always ignore that happy ending and make it appear that Apocalypse is set in another reality or timeline for the shock value.

 

[BoredGuy]

What Singer's saying is basically "This crap's too hard to figure out now so we did a time-travel movie and now we can do whatever the hell we want... so suck on it continuity-lovers!" t:

 

[psylockolussus]

I'm really curious on how Rogue will get her white streaks and if Beast would still be the secretary of department of mutant affairs and if Stryker would attack the X-Mansion in early 2000s. But for some reason, I don't think Bryan Singer has the time and effort to explain all the changes. Like they do really want to release a period/prequel film set in 2000s? At some point they gotta go back to the future and just move from there.

 

[night0205]

Nothing singer said has contradicted. He's just trying to hype the fact that the audience shouldn't assume who will live and die, but we kinda can. He's trying to sound like the movie is unpredictable, because he wants good buzz.

 

[psylockolussus]

Well one thing is for certain, if he ignores the happy ending in DOFP, all hell will break loose in these continuity threads. I hope he doesn't mess it up because that scene was amazing!

 

[The Guard]

They just made a whole movie about how events can change the future. That the future is not set in stone, and how there are various possibilities.

Why is it hard for people to understand this?

They can do whatever they want moving forward with that framework.

 

[psylockolussus]

The X-Men trilogy matter now as much as first 20 james bond films do and they still called spectre the 24th james Bond film.

Um no.

And unlike James Bond, you can just skip all the 20 movies and start from Casino Royale and you're good to go.

You watch First Class and Days of Future Past in one sitting as someone new to the series and lets see if you wouldn't be confused by the identity of the girl with the white streak, redhead in a red dress and the guy with the Oakley shades at the end of DOFP and not get loss or why Wolverine lost control when he saw William Stryker in the conference room.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Um no.

And unlike James Bond, you can just skip all the 20 movies and start from Casino Royale and you're good to go.

You watch First Class and Days of Future Past in one sitting as someone new to the series and lets see if you wouldn't be confused by the identity of the girl with the white streak, redhead in a red dress and the guy with the Oakley shades at the end of DOFP and not get loss or why Wolverine lost control when he saw William Stryker in the conference room.

and you seem to be ignoring all the changes they are doing In Apocalypse.you could even include deadpool in this.Singer himself in set videos said the future scenes are ilrelvent as they could just ignore them in future.how much clearer does it has to be with exception of first class and 1973 parts of DOFP all the other past films are ilrelvent.the new wolverine film may join them if they dismiss future ending of DOFP.how knows even about deadpool.they could introduce Iceman,Kitty,rogue,iceman,colossus in next X-Men film if they wanted.

 

[marvelrobbins]

They just made a whole movie about how events can change the future. That the future is not set in stone, and how there are various possibilities.

Why is it hard for people to understand this?

They can do whatever they want moving forward with that framework.

then people need to start admiting Time travel in DOFP erased all non-FC films and even the future scenes of DOFP may be ilrelvent.

 

[The Guard]

You watch First Class and Days of Future Past in one sitting as someone new to the series and lets see if you wouldn't be confused by the identity of the girl with the white streak, redhead in a red dress and the guy with the Oakley shades at the end of DOFP and not get loss or why Wolverine lost control when he saw William Stryker in the conference room.

I doubt someone new to the series would make the connection there or be particularly confused, especially since nothing happens with those three.

It could easily just be a girl with a white streak, a redhead in a red dress and a guy with Oakley's.

It's an Easter Egg, not a story element.

 

[night0205]

We all have opinions, even I view FC as already being another timeline before DOFP, but all that officially matters is what the creators say. They say that the OT is the first trilogy in the franchise and everything after that goes forward in whatever way they see fit. But they don't say the OT has been cut, scrapped or become irrelavent to the X-men saga. So, you can say and think what you want about the OT, but this franchise is a continuation of those movies, and they will all be on the X-men saga bluray set.

 

[GuestStar2004]

The OT timeline is part of DOFP and obviously DOFP is part of this trilogy so there is most certainly acknowledgement to those events