X-Men - Part 3

[Spider-Nerd]

You know, in small doses I really like Wolvie but things like this are why I end up hating Logan more than anyone else in the marvel U.

 

[runawayboulder]

He's damn near perfect as leader of Uncanny X-Force by night and Headmaster by day but Marvel can't leave well enough alone.

 

[storyteller]

Wolverine first X-men huh? Hey is Loeb back at work destroying the Marvel Universe for DC?

 

[CConn]

No, Loeb started destroying the DC Universe before he left too.

 

[storyteller]

No he had some good stuff and I think his weaker stuff still left Dc in a pretty strong state(of course the crisis was on the way anyway). His marvel stuff has just been pure trash.

 

[CConn]

No, as soon as his son died in 2004 or 05, his writing went in the garbage.

Superman/Batman: Absolute Power, Superman/Batman: Vengeance, and his Supergirl run were all written after that, and all of them were dreadful. It took Supergirl in particular 40 issues to rebound from the mess he created.

The most interesting thing about his Hulk run? It was the exact same thing as his Supergirl run. The exact. Same. Thing.

 

[Havok83]

The most interesting thing about his Hulk run? It was the exact same thing as his Supergirl run. The exact. Same. Thing.

Really? How so?

 

[roach]

we'll find out he X-men were actually named after Logan's middle name Xander

 

[CConn]

Really? How so?

18 of every 22 pages in each issue featured Supergirl fighting another hero for absolutely no reason whatsoever.

 

[chamber-music]

I'm over Marvel trying to shove Wolverine down everyones throats

I have come to the point of accepting that if you are going to read Marvel comics there is a good chance Wolverine may be in most of them regardless if it makes sense or not.

I like Wolverine and think his a good character but Marvel are ruining him for me with overexposure. Marvel should just leave him to be in the three books his actually good in.

 

[The Englishman]

The problem with Wolverine is that every writer want to have him in there book but if I was given a X-book to write and I had the option to pick 6/7 members to star in it Wolverine would not be one of them.

 

[Havok83]

Im surprised he isnt a starring member of the Fantastic Four. FF seems like a obvious oppurtunity to stick him in that group

 

[chamber-music]

Don't give them any ideas

 

[CConn]

Y'know, I used to have absolutely no real liking for Wolverine. I was a Cyclops fan as a kid, so Wolverine always represented this rebellious ******* who was constantly trying to steal Cyke's girl.

That said, now that Marvel's ****ed the life out of Scott due to mischaracterization (or maybe it's overcharacterization), I find myself becoming a pretty big Wolverine fan. I don't judge a character by what greedy editors with no creativity do, I judge what's actually represented in the books, and currently Wolverine's a pretty awesome character in most of the books he's in. Wolverine and the X-Men is the best X-Men book in years, if not decades, Uncanny X-Force is still pumping out great stories, and Wolverine's okay on the team books he's in.

If anything, I'm more upset at Marvel for all of those mischaracterizations that they've done lately. There's times when characters like Captain America, Cyclops, Iron Man, etc. don't even sound like themselves for months and years at a time.

 

[MilkmanDan]

Y'know, I used to have absolutely no real liking for Wolverine. I was a Cyclops fan as a kid, so Wolverine always represented this rebellious ******* who was constantly trying to steal Cyke's girl.

That said, now that Marvel's ****ed the life out of Scott due to mischaracterization (or maybe it's overcharacterization), I find myself becoming a pretty big Wolverine fan.

I have to say, I have never understood how it's even possible to be a fan of one of those characters but not the other. With all the odd-couple chemistry Cyclops and Wolverine have, it's like liking Riggs but not Murtaugh, Mulder but not Scully or Kirk but not Spock.

 

[JewishHobbit]

I liked them both when they were oposites. Nowadays, not so much. I'm honestly not a big fan of either, which is sad because Cyclops used to be my favorite comic book character, period.

 

[Havok83]

I have to say, I have never understood how it's even possible to be a fan of one of those characters but not the other. With all the odd-couple chemistry Cyclops and Wolverine have, it's like liking Riggs but not Murtaugh, Mulder but not Scully or Kirk but not Spock.

Easy. They are completely different characters. I dont see why liking one means you have to like the other

 

[MilkmanDan]

Easy. They are completely different characters. I dont see why liking one means you have to like the other

They're completely different characters that whose personalities complement each other perfectly. It would be one thing if they would be two characters with little or no interaction but they are very much a double act. I can understand how a Wolverine-fan might not be interested in Cyclops as a solo character. What I don't get is how that hypothetical fan could not enjoy the classic friendship/rivalry between Wolverine and Cyclops.

 

[BillPardy]

Wolverine used to be my favorite character. Being that hes Canadian, bad ass, with some interesting stories. Then I got bored, and sick of how over exposed he was. Then Jason Aaron came around and wrote 'Get Mystic' which I picked up randomly... and I love his characterization of Logan. Him, and Remender are the only writers, currently writing X-books, that I trust with the character.

 

[BoredGuy]

I still love Wolverine, but I knew this would cause some serious hand-wringing around here.

Marvel really does need to stop forcing him into everyone's history.
There's like 30 years of stories between Logan and Xavier or Magneto that now make little to no sense

 

[CConn]

They're completely different characters that whose personalities complement each other perfectly. It would be one thing if they would be two characters with little or no interaction but they are very much a double act. I can understand how a Wolverine-fan might not be interested in Cyclops as a solo character. What I don't get is how that hypothetical fan could not enjoy the classic friendship/rivalry between Wolverine and Cyclops.

Because generally one of them is (poorly) characterized as a moronic jerk. There are apparently shockingly few writers who can actually characterize two likeable characters who happen to disagree with each other.

When I was growing up, it seemed to be more Wolverine. Now it's Scott's turn, apparently.

 

[BoredGuy]

I dunno, I been reading X-Men for 20 years now, and I have never found Cyclops agreeable.


well, okay, for like 5 seconds during Whedon's Astonishing, Cyke was pretty awesome

 

[CConn]

Well, obviously, some of it just has to do with your own personality.

Wolverine's the rebel, Cyclops is the conformist.

 

[Havok83]

Loved Cyclops up until Morrison's run. Hated him since then up until Schism. Gillen is slowly making me like him again

 

[Havok83]

Found! Profesor X makes his trumphant return this summer!