X-Men - Part 5

[Mad Ones]

Glad to see Xorn Jean tell Cyclops and Wolverine how effing annoying they are, even if she was crazy. The X-line is hardcore trying to deconstruct Jean Grey, to mixed results.

I wonder what All New X-men will be like after this issue.

 

[Havok83]

not saying Wolvie hasn't been a bit of a hypocrite lately due to some poor writing

but f*** scott, guys a *****ebag, always has been... only time I didn't actively dislike him was during Whedon's run

and I don't understand how Kitty can take the position she's taking in BoTA, its just so dumb
then for her to join up with the Uncanny team just seems so against her nature
nobody believed in Wolvie's side of schism more than her, now she's gunna ditch that because she likes the 05 too much to let them go home..?

what an awful end to an awful crossover. Thank god its finally over. I thought Kitty was going to strike out on her own but to join up with Scott made no sense. The fact that the X-men are still split makes no sense after Jean went off on Scott and Logan blaming the Schism as the root for everything that goes wrong in the future. I thought that would cause them to reflect on their choices from the last couple of years and work on uniting, but there was no progress here. This crossover was a waste of 2 months. If the point was to get Kitty and the O5 away from the school, they could have done that by other means

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I kinda feel like I could have read BoTA #1 and #2 and gotten the story after a little filling-in of the blanks. Also, I get the feeling that the O5 will be around for the duration of Bendis' stay on the X-books.

 

[Havok83]

I kinda feel like I could have read BoTA #1 and #2 and gotten the story after a little filling-in of the blanks. Also, I get the feeling that the O5 will be around for the duration of Bendis' stay on the X-books.

you really could have. There were literally no ramifications except for Kitty and the O5 leaving the school to go to Scott's side. That's it. Everything else in between was insignificant with no character progression happening to the other characters

Also this REALLY bugged me. The O5 cant go back to the past via science (the time device), but why doesnt anyone suggest that Magik take them back? Hello, she's a mutant time traveler! We see her take the other X-men back to the future but nothing is made of her using her abilities to take the O5 back to the past. Was this even covered or did I miss it? That seems like such a glaring hole and flaw to this storyline. I mean Magik's powers are acknowledged and they leave the school with her, yet no one thinks to suggest Magik take them back to the pas? WTF?!?

 

[Specter313]

you really could have. There were literally no ramifications except for Kitty and the O5 leaving the school to go to Scott's side. That's it. Everything else in between was insignificant with no character progression happening to the other characters

Also this REALLY bugged me. The O5 cant go back to the past via science (the time device), but why doesnt anyone suggest that Magik take them back. Hello, she's a mutant time traveler! We see her said the other X-men back to the future but nothing is made of her using her abilities to take the O5 back to the past. Was this even covered or did I miss it? That seems like such a glaring hole and flaw to this storyline. I mean Magik's powers are acknowledged and they leave the school with her, yet no one thinks to suggest Magik take them back to the pas? WTF?!?

Nope, never mentioned. Welcome to having Bendis on the X-books where continuity is thrown out the window and he makes up things however he wants and ignores stuff that makes sense.

Man, this crossover just stunk. Every bit of reasoning for how things happened made little to no sense. "This proves humans hate mutants!" No, it doesn't work if you brotherhood idiots are the ones pushing the buttons and forcing it. SHIELD has a contingency for everything, how is this new? And yet again, no one of any substance or ramification died, and no one cares. Kitty: "You should have listened to me." Um, why? Every single person knows keeping the O5 in the present makes no sense and just stupid. You can throw characterization out the window to when Bendis is involved too. Nothing about this whole thing felt organic or flowed as if he was coming naturally and all had to be forced. The only thing I liked about this last issue was interaction between Jubilee and Shogo, because Wood's character work is one of the few things to enjoy about the X-Men these days.

I'm still not picking up Uncanny or All-New, and while people have said they started good, this crossover just proved to me I'm not missing anything. I'll stick with Wood's X-Men, WatX, and Amazing when it comes out, and X-Force and X-Factor as well.

 

[Havok83]

Nope, never mentioned. Welcome to having Bendis on the X-books where continuity is thrown out the window and he makes up things however he wants and ignores stuff that makes sense.

Man, this crossover just stunk. Every bit of reasoning for how things happened made little to no sense. "This proves humans hate mutants!" No, it doesn't work if you brotherhood idiots are the ones pushing the buttons and forcing it. SHIELD has a contingency for everything, how is this new? And yet again, no one of any substance or ramification died, and no one cares. Kitty: "You should have listened to me." Um, why? Every single person knows keeping the O5 in the present makes no sense and just stupid. You can throw characterization out the window to when Bendis is involved too. Nothing about this whole thing felt organic or flowed as if he was coming naturally and all had to be forced. The only thing I liked about this last issue was interaction between Jubilee and Shogo, because Wood's character work is one of the few things to enjoy about the X-Men these days.

I'm still not picking up Uncanny or All-New, and while people have said they started good, this crossover just proved to me I'm not missing anything. I'll stick with Wood's X-Men, WatX, and Amazing when it comes out, and X-Force and X-Factor as well.

Both series have been excellent, BUT they were leading into this crossover which was god awful. This never should have happened as it was a horrible payoff. I still cant get over Magik's powers being ignored to sell this plot when she uses her powers in this same damn issue. Ugh! So frustrating

I wonder where ANX and UNX go from here bc the O5 joining Scott's side kind of seems like a merger of the concepts and makes two books redundant. I guess there's the GotG crossover to delay things a bit so that'll at least keep them separate for a short bit.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Regarding science failing at sending the O5 back to the past. Let Forge and Cable take a crack at it, guarantee progress will be made in no more than 24 hours

I suppose X-23 joining All New is supposed to liven the book up.

 

[chamber-music]

I sometimes think the writers are going out of their way to make readers hate the X-Men.

As a x-men 50th anniversary this crossover is just an embarrassment of failure.

The franchise is like a trainwreck of characterization. Feels like ultimate universe characterization where they decide to make every character a massive jerk.

All these characters at each other throats throwing childish insults at each other is annoying as f***. Even Magneto and Xavier could put aside their differences and acted civil when they united against the bigger threats than Wolverine and Cyclops.

It feels Marvel is trying to drive the franchise into the ground so that the Inhumans can replace it as the persecuted superpowered community of the MCU.

 

[javi1024]

Both series have been excellent, BUT they were leading into this crossover which was god awful. This never should have happened as it was a horrible payoff. I still cant get over Magik's powers being ignored to sell this plot when she uses her powers in this same damn issue. Ugh! So frustrating

Not that I'm defending Bendis or this crossover in any way, but I'm pretty sure their repetition of "the Universe, some unknown force, is not letting us go back to our timeline" is their excuse for not trying any of the other time travelers within the X-Men's ranks/extended family. Thought with Beast saying he'll be working on it right away could mean that's what we see in the next issue.

But I agree this issue, this crossover, was garbage. Kitty's defense of O-5 did not make any sense and here joining Cyclops made even less. And we still don't know WHY the Brotherhood came back in the first place. "More mutants get killed"....No s***, Sherlock! Tell me what else is new. This is the Bendis I was afraid of when the relaunch was announced. Let's hope he goes back to the writer he was in All-New #1.

 

[Brainiac 8]

I agree with those who said that BotA ending was terrible.

But then again, the whole idea of the X-Men dividing was stupid. The reasons Wolverine fought against Scott was stupid and made no sense considering his body count.

I think Kitty's decision was the least of the sins this franchise has committed over the last several years.

 

[JTStarkiller]

I'll just chime in and say that I actually kinda liked Schism. It made enough sense to me and I thought it was an interesting story (and most importantly, it didn't drag things out, it did it in 5 issues), and I loved Gillen's and Aaron's two respective books. AvX is pretty much where I really started to hate how things had progressed. I had assumed Schism was only going to last a couple years, and they'd eventually kiss and make up, but after AvX, it sure doesn't seem to be the case.

Personally, I've always been on the side of Cyclops ever since AvX, and think Wolverine has just been horribly written, especially by Bendis, and especially in this event.

 

[javi1024]

I enjoyed Schism a well. I thought it was a lot of fun, a good story to tell, and an interesting direction to take the X-Men. Did I believe Wolverine should have been the one to oppose Cyclops? Not 100%, but I felt they did a fine enough job to convince me. Personally I think it would've made the most sense if Storm broke away and started the school (though she is headmistress now so it kinda worked out).

 

[Colossal Spoons]

How did Cable's new pre-cog powers not see any of this coming too? Bendis and Hopeless should have had a conversation before BoTA started considering Cable & X-Force is currently dealing with time travel and predicting the future.

 

[jonathancrane]

I also enjoyed Schism.

However, the comics building off it have been horrible and make me regret it enjoying it, at times (let's not forget Wolverine during AVX: KILL YOU SUUUUUMERRRRRRSSSSS!)

 

[Havok83]

I also enjoyed Schism.

However, the comics building off it have been horrible and make me regret it enjoying it, at times (let's not forget Wolverine during AVX: KILL YOU SUUUUUMERRRRRRSSSSS!)

IDA. Bc I thought the books that spun out of Schism were awesome. Uncanny X-men volume 2 was amazing as was Wolverine and the X-men. Schism was a much needed event for what had been a stale time in the X-franchise. Someone needed to step up and break away from Cyclops and the school in NY needed to be reopened. Sucks that it was Wolverine used to make that happen, but it needed to happen and we got at least a great year worth of storytelling out of it. The main problem they got wrong was extended it as long as they have. It really should have been over by now.

 

[jonathancrane]

I should have worded my post better. I agree WAX and U-Xmen were indeed good. I was thinking of AVX and getting increasingly pissed, which clouded my mind and resulted in a post that should have been proofed better.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

IDA. Bc I thought the books that spun out of Schism were awesome. Uncanny X-men volume 2 was amazing as was Wolverine and the X-men. Schism was a much needed event for what had been a stale time in the X-franchise. Someone needed to step up and break away from Cyclops and the school in NY needed to be reopened. Sucks that it was Wolverine used to make that happen, but it needed to happen and we got at least a great year worth of storytelling out of it. The main problem they got wrong was extended it as long as they have. It really should have been over by now.

I'd imagine a resurrected Xavier will bring the 2 schools together.

 

[JTStarkiller]

I'd imagine a resurrected Xavier will bring the 2 schools together.

As much as I hate bringing people back, I'd be fine with anything if it got both schools together again. I have a feeling this split will continue for another 2-3 years at least though.

 

[Donnie Darko]

Sorry if this has already been covered, but when does X-Men: Gold come out, or have I already missed it?

 

[JTStarkiller]

Nope, you haven't missed it. November 13.

 

[Donnie Darko]

Thanks.

 

[Specter313]

New team member revealed for the new X-Factor:

Yep, that's Danger on the far right.

 

[javi1024]

I must've missed the other reveals. Who is everyone else? I see Gambit, Polaris, and....Quicksilver?

 

[Specter313]

I must've missed the other reveals. Who is everyone else? I see Gambit, Polaris, and....Quicksilver?

Yep, but we don't know who the other two behind them are, the one in the hood and the blond guy, yet.

 

[Havok83]

He seems like a red head to me. Maybe more strawberry blonde like Dazzler is supposed to be. Im guessing he's a new character but hooded guy seems like he can be existing character and not showing his face is probably part of that mystery.