X-Men - Part 7

[Sithborg]

Yeah, it's a bit uncomfortable as more and more is pointed out. Something that is easy to miss, but the more you learn, the more you see.

 

[Weather Witch]

Good news for you two as Syaf will likely be fired after that

I saw that a few days ago, but haven't had time to comment here. I think unless you know the meaning behind it, it is subtle enough to miss. I certainly hadn't noticed it. That'll probably cost him his career though.

 

[Havok83]

I saw that a few days ago, but haven't had time to comment here. I think unless you know the meaning behind it, it is subtle enough to miss. I certainly hadn't noticed it. That'll probably cost him his career though.

Got that right

Ardian Syaf: "My career is over"

Hello, Worlds...

My career is over now.
It's the consequence what I did, and I take it.
Please no more mockery, debat, no more hate. I hope all in peace.

In this last chance, I want to tell you the true meaning of the numbers, 212 and QS 5:51.

It is number of JUSTICE. It is number of LOVE. My love to Holy Qur'an...my love to the last prophet, the Messenger...my love to ALLAH, The One God.

My apologize for all the noise. Good bye, May God bless you all. I love all of you.

-Ardian Syaf-

http://www.newsarama.com/33977-x-men-gold-artist-ardian-syaf-my-career-is-over.html

I hope it was worth it for him bc its not like he was a Jim Lee, Steve McNiven, or big name in the industry. He's a nobody and caused too much controversy for the launch of one of Marvel's biggest properties.

 

[psylockolussus]

well they stole it which was acknowledged. Logan was thre joking about how the city had no choice in the matter. They didnt even ask or go through proper channels to make this happen. It makes the X-men come across as a-holes and if there wasnt valid reasons to hate mutants before, this would definitely be one to hate the X-men.

Its just not very wise for the writer to make X-Men look like that. Though its not that surprising given that these "heroes" don't even have a real job to begin with. Lol. So maybe Kitty really thought it was just okay to land the mansion in an open public space.

In the real world, the mansion would have gotten a deadline to move or it would be demolished. Cashing out ten million a month wouldn't save it especially Central Park is a very important public place.

 

[zenith16]

Originally Posted by Havok83
Got that right

Ardian Syaf: "My career is over"


http://www.newsarama.com/33977-x-men...r-is-over.html

I hope it was worth it for him bc its not like he was a Jim Lee, Steve McNiven, or big name in the industry. He's a nobody and caused too much controversy for the launch of one of Marvel's biggest properties.

yeah I just saw this just now there wors there somee on colous's shirtand more
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Marvel Comics Comes Under Fire For Hidden Islamist And Anti-Semitic Messages In Artwork

COMICS: X-MEN: GOLD Artist Sneaks Message Of Intolerance Past Editors
Muslim artist Ardian Syaf managed to sneak hidden anti-Christian and anti-Semitic messages past Marvel editors but he couldn't sneak past the internet. Check out… Read more

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X-Men Gold #1 was to see a return to X-Men tradition but the controversy surrounding Ardian Syaf is overshadowing what was a solid debut.

The first item of note is the QS 5:51 on Colossus' t-shirt, a reference to Qur’an Surah 5:51 which warns against following Jewish or Christian leaders:
“Oh you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you – then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.”

The other item in question was a panel featuring Kitty Pride where the longstanding X-Men character blocked out part of a jewelry store sign to read Jew, which was followed by signage which read 212. This was in reference to the "212 Protest" in Indonesia, where Muslims held a rally on December 12 (hence, 212) to denounce Jakarta's second-ever Christian governor.

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Marvel provided the following statement:The mentioned artwork in X-Men Gold #1 was inserted without knowledge behind its reported meanings. These implied references do not reflect the views of the writer, editors or anyone else at Marvel and are in direct opposition of the inclusiveness of Marvel Comics and what the X-Men have stood for since their creation. This artwork will be removed from subsequent printings, digital versions, and trade paperbacks and disciplinary action is being taken.

And it seems swift action was taken as Syaf has taken to his Facebook profile to announce that his career is over.
Hello, Worlds...
My career is over now.
It's the consequence what I did, and I take it.
Please no more mockery, debat [sic], no more hate. I hope all in peace.
In this last chance, I want to tell you the true meaning of the numbers, 212 and QS 5:51.
It is number of JUSTICE. It is number of LOVE. My love to Holy Qur'an...my love to the last prophet, the Messenger...my love to ALLAH, The One God.
My apologize for all the noise. Good bye, May God bless you all. I love all of you.
-Ardian Syaf-

Syaf's Facebook post has predominantly been met with messages of support and applause from Muslims who agree with his surreptitious message.

With Marvel reprinting the issue and pulling it from digtial stores, first-run issues of X-Men: Gold are selling upwards of 4x times their retail value of $4.99 on eBay. Variant issues are going for as high as

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[zenith16]

Its just not very wise for the writer to make X-Men look like that. Though its not that surprising given that these "heroes" don't even have a real job to begin with. Lol. So maybe Kitty really thought it was just okay to land the mansion in an open public space.

In the real world, the mansion would have gotten a deadline to move or it would be demolished. Cashing out ten million a month wouldn't save it especially Central Park is a very important public place.

the truth is most of Guggenheim work usual involve controversy and lack of logic that's never addressed. the further it continues. it's why I dropped the live action shows of arrow after 4 season and never looked back and I might be dropping legends of tomorrow too.

now truth be told I could say that since both gambit is rich (via time travel) and he doesn't nee to be thief. if you read the comic series of his, where he battled his alternate the new sun/ new son and rouge got a wind fall when she found her real name during X-treme X-men and met her only living relative in that series. that gave them the low down on her true pastv before mystique took her . and there was also the inheritance that older cyclops got from xavier which he left to the jean grey school that . the school does have money minus older warren who's not in this right mind and emma.

hmm there also that berried treasure jean showed cable during that time older cyclops was missing during / post the event of the twelve story arc and during search for cyclops and she said it belonged to her and cyclops


so i guess they were gonna give to a museum use it in bank some how

But it also kinda make sense beside's cyclops feeling guilty over Xavier death. he really didn't need Xavier money which also makes sense why he didn't keep what Xavier left him "will" wise. He really doesn't need it if what jean told cable during the Revolution period is true with the treasure .


so older cyclops gave Xavier money to the jean grey school and there was that over talk by older beast by how many billionaire's those that lowers are part of the alumni of the school with New x-men.

but I don't like helping bad writers like guggenhim. and I pretty sure it's not enough to stay in central park with force crap they had wold man logan say.

So I'll let you all find out for your selves what type writer Guggenheim is

 

[psylockolussus]

Thank you for reminding me that Gold is written by this Guggenheim guy. I never liked His track record. So no surprise that it was a meh start for me.

And the money isn't gonna solve everything. That would just look like anyone could own a land by trespassing it first, move without permission and legality then just pay the land later and its just gonna be fine. I just think its stupid. It also shows that mutants don't know how to obey simple city rules.

 

[zenith16]

Thank you for reminding me that Gold is written by this Guggenheim guy. I never liked His track record. So no surprise that it was a meh start for me.

And the money isn't gonna solve everything. That would just look like anyone could own a land by trespassing it first, move without permission and legality then just pay the land later and its just gonna be fine. I just think its stupid. It also shows that mutants don't know how to obey simple city rules.

the latter part is the very reason I said said it won't hold up. they do have alot of money but it won't matter and should hold up.

iit doesn't make sense cause it was taken illegally. they are better off going back to the place the do own which in west chester salim county . try making sure their i better security around the school over all and have no fly zone air space over the school and have force field dome built over the area of the school .


they should just buy an area in manhatten and make a field office . since that thing they think they need. but this kinda reminded overall the weird issue when in new X-men started the mention of cereba was mentioned and it to the public and the subject was over looked by the writers which one of many reason I didn't like that series.

yeah the school was attacked regardless after but in reality when you have device that can remind beside tracking mutant I'm sure alot of corrupt people will ether want that device them selves for black mail of other place country ruler's or they want it gone off of the face of the earth cause they feel their own secrets will spill or found out .

that bother me back then. but this thing with central park is ether just as bad or worse . I don't know thy they keep making sure the X-men are brain dead when it come to legal matter's of late or when they use to know better on how they treated people but it's not cool . it's all I'll say for tonight. but man ? I hope it ends .

 

[Marvel]

So, add idiotic fundamental cultist islamic messages based in ignorance to Marvel publishing's slap in the face to long time fans...

The social justice morons can't even monitor themselves at this point. Marvel will NEVER be great again as long as Axel Alonso is in charge. Until he's fired, Make Mine NOT Marvel...

 

[Sithborg]

Because artists are never able to sneak things in. I mean, what would happen if the Little Mermaid artists snuck in vulgar images...

 

[Mad Ones]

There was an issue of Grant Morrison's New X-men that had "sex" all over the art haha

So, add idiotic fundamental cultist islamic messages based in ignorance to Marvel publishing's slap in the face to long time fans...

The social justice morons can't even monitor themselves at this point. Marvel will NEVER be great again as long as Axel Alonso is in charge. Until he's fired, Make Mine NOT Marvel...

wtf does social justice have to do with the art here? You can't blame everything on this scapegoat. And the X-men are literally social justice warriors lol.

 

[Sithborg]

I saw an interesting theory about the new Brotherhood. [blackout]That the Pyro and Avalanche we are are actually Rusty and Rictor.[/blackout]

 

[Mad Ones]

Marvel really should give [BLACKOUT]Rictor[/BLACKOUT] something to do. Bring back [BLACKOUT]Ricstar[/BLACKOUT]. But I don't think a brotherhood of evil mutants is the way to do it. Unless they are mind controlled.

 

[Weather Witch]

Question: is anybody else having problems with the online comic reader? No matter what device I use, every few pages it starts buffering (forever) and it won't go to the next page until I refresh. Really starting to piss me off.

 

[CaptainWagner]

So, add idiotic fundamental cultist islamic messages based in ignorance to Marvel publishing's slap in the face to long time fans...

The social justice morons can't even monitor themselves at this point. Marvel will NEVER be great again as long as Axel Alonso is in charge. Until he's fired, Make Mine NOT Marvel...

Can you NOT bring your little vendetta against social justice into every conversation?

Anyway, it would be TERRIFIC to get Rictor and Shatterstar back!

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Because artists are never able to sneak things in. I mean, what would happen if the Little Mermaid artists snuck in vulgar images...

technically only one image was snuck, and it was the VHS cover...

the whole pastor with a ***** was not actually that... if you watch closely it was his knees

 

[YJ1]

So, add idiotic fundamental cultist islamic messages based in ignorance to Marvel publishing's slap in the face to long time fans...

The social justice morons can't even monitor themselves at this point. Marvel will NEVER be great again as long as Axel Alonso is in charge. Until he's fired, Make Mine NOT Marvel...

Before I even heard about this ignorant muslim hidden BS garbage, I thought this issue was old school awful. Meaning, it was juvenile and shallow with misused characters (a herald of Galactus getting beat in TWO pages WTF?)

How sad has Marvel become when it's actually refreshing to read a bad book that's awful NOT because of social justice nonsense but because it's badly constructed? Has the bar really sunk this low???

 

[Mad Ones]

are you saying that marvel books have been awful because of women and minorities?

 

[Havok83]

I saw an interesting theory about the new Brotherhood. [blackout]That the Pyro and Avalanche we are are actually Rusty and Rictor.[/blackout]

It makes sense on one hand but no sense based on what Guggenheim said. He said he brought over a new Pyro since the original is dead.[BLACKOUT] Rusty is just as dead as Pyro.[/BLACKOUT] But then again in that same interview he said this would be an interesting development for Magma since she's never been a villian, when in reality she was one in the late 90s as part of the New Hellions. After I read that, it was clear he wasnt versed in his continuity.

 

[Havok83]

X-Men Blue was amazing! I preferred it over Gold. I really love Bunn's handle on these characters and Jean as leader. Its good to finally see Scott feel like Scott after the funk he was in during ANX v2. Art was great too. Im excited about the future.

Oh and we got semi-confirmation that the clawed character is [BLACKOUT]Wolverine aka Jimmy Hudson
[/BLACKOUT]
Weapon X? Not so much. Felt like an Old Man Logan solo. Probably wont pick up till the team is assembled

 

[Mad Ones]

I thought it was good too. Stellar art. The reveal of the clawed character took me out of it though. Boring.

 

[Tvar10]

So are Blue and Gold going to be the main ongoing X-Men books now?

 

[Havok83]

So are Blue and Gold going to be the main ongoing X-Men books now?

Yes. Gold replaces Extroadinary and Blue replaces Uncanny and All New

ETA: The hidden cast member of Blue is finally official

Spoiler

 

[Mad Ones]

Out of all the X-characters not in a book, why put him in blue????

 

[psylockolussus]

Knock off or an alternate version of an existing character. Which is the o5 to Cyclops, Jean, Iceman, Beast and Archangel.

Blue was good though and the art work is definitely better and I like the costumes. It was nice to see Cain again. Too bad I just don't care about the o5.

I have no interest to read weapon X, I will just look at the pictures.