Phaser
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Horrorfan said:Phaser, what made more money? Batman Begins, or X3? If you can, awnser that question with no injunction or critical comment. I doubt your ego would allow it, but I will ask you to anyway.
X3 made more money. I have no problem admitting that. Because, frankly speaking, box-office reciepts have NEVER been an appropriate measure of a film's quality - they only show just how popular or mass-appeal a film has. I wholeheartedly acknowledge that X3 clicked with summer audiences more than Batman Begins did. Why? It gave them what they were asking for - mindless spectacle with a butchered plot they can enjoy with their brains turned off.
You call me shallow, I say you are a puppet. Everything you love just hAS to be adored by the critics. It's almost like you let them decide for you. I don't think I have ever seen you stand up for a film or game that you might have liked but was critically derided. You are the biggest example of elitist I can think of. You might think that's a good thing, but I think it makes you a cliche (right down to the ''unfunny'' and ''no personality as far as we can tell'' things).
Please, pull your head out of wherever it's stuck because it's seriously hampering your ability to comprehened my words. I used BB's greater critical acclaim as only one of the many points to argue the superiority of BB as a film. Never did I claim a "critics' seal of approval" as a foremost requirement for a film to be good. And secondly, perhaps you failed to notice that I mentioned RT's User Review Score of 94% and IMDB's rating of 8.4 which gives BB 81st position in IMDB's Top 250 Films of All-Time, which are voted by users and NOT critics.
That alone shows that I don't put stock in critics' opinion alone as you so inanely claim.
You're like a critical robot. You seem to decide if a movie is good or not based on the reviews, and what other people tell you is good, not because you actually like it.
^Nothing but asinine assumptions. I am actually one of the most vocal and outspoken defender of my opinion for liking BB on these boards, and rarely do I do it by bringing up the critics. And if you manage to take a look at your own posts that I've replied to in this very thread, you'll notice that I brought up critics' opinion only once for X3 and once for BB, and that too along with their user-review scores. Why exactly did I bring them up? Because the general consensus amongst both critics AND movie-goers is that BB is not overrated like you so inanely claim. Otherwise, the film would only have gotten a high score from only ONE of the two camps.
See, I can see Gammy and WHF liking it. They are witty and funny guys, but not everything they love is the critics latest darling. But you? You are unfunny, about as sharp as a rubber band and everything you like is loved by the critics. You seem like a lemming, for all intents and purposes. It wouldn't even be so bad if you had a shred of personality or wit to add to your posts. I disagree with Lars but it can be enjoyable because he can be funny and entertaining. You? In all my years on messageboards, you have to be the single dullest person I have ever known. I don't mean that as an insult, or to be mean, it's a fact.
I'm not here to entertain you. I am here to speak my mind on whatever topic of the thread I am posting in. Forgive me for not giving a **** that you cry yourself to sleep after reading my posts that simply weren't "fun" enough for you. Boo-freakin-hoo.
I don't mean any of this to be taken too personally, but it's just what I have seen from you so far. I'm not saying it to try and argue or get a rise out of you, but you just seem so cookie cutter in your opinion of movies, so predctible, its just a bit boring. Thats not totally fair since I dont know everything you like, but its just what I have seen of you so far.
So you actually admit the fact that you know very little about me despite making a lot of judgemental comments in this thread (which practically renders all that you said about me quite meaningless)? Wow, you must be too big an illiterate fool to understand the very concept of self-contradiction.
I think you need to get your nose out of the critics ass, wipe off the brown and THINK for yourself and form your own opinions. I doubt you will ever do that, but as long as you are the puppet of the critics, you will not truly be yourself. You are letting others think for you. I also think it's shallow and lame for someone to measure depth and intelligence by the type of movies one likes, but to me, thats just insecurity on the person's own part, who needs validation for the movies you like. Me? I need no validation for anything I like.
Again, please stop with these jackass assumptions. Critics have panned on a fair number of films that I liked, such as The Matrix Reloaded and Passion of the Christ, while they have also praised films that I dislike such as Star Wars Episode III and Brokeback Mountain. That's just a bare few films off the top of my mind and I'm sure there are MANY more (because I don't make it a point to memorize the review scores of every film I see, those 4 are just what stick out the most in my memory at the moment).
I love X3 as a movie. But I am also glad it made more than Batman Begins, if only to piss off people like you. You deal in facts? Well, it IS a fact that X3 outgrossed Batman Begins. I love that it bothers you so much. If X3 hadn't made as much, I would still love the movie, but knowing it upsets you is the icing on a very sweet cake (and I do know it bothers you )
What bothers is me idiots and their brainless farts about X3 making as much money as it did because it was that good a film. But then again, I can only give a damn about the ramblings of such thickheads for so long. Then it becomes a simple matter of dogs and their barking.