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Okay, this may be considered a double thread (and merged), but I simply had to make it, and ask you all this question.
There's been a couple very distinct complaints that have been floating around that I simply don't...understand. Don't see how someone could see them as negatives. They are as follows:
So yeah, if you don't like the idea of a Justice League movie and have some reasoning I didn't think of and didn't included, please post it, I'd love to hear it, and see if it has any merit, but I don't think I'll ever understand most of the complaints above.
There's been a couple very distinct complaints that have been floating around that I simply don't...understand. Don't see how someone could see them as negatives. They are as follows:
Well, that's all I can think of now. Just let me say, in closing, I'm not saying I think the Justice League movie is going to be great or good or whatever - it could be anything. It could be great or it could suck. What I AM saying is I don't believe at this time there's any way to actually tell which it will be; whether it will be great or horrible. Good or bad. It's just not far enough along in production, there's just not enough information yet, AND - as I've detailed above - I don't believe people are giving it a fair chance at it being good and are making up reasons for it being bad that frankly don't make any sense, and don't really have much logic behind them."Batman shouldn't be in a Justice League movie! He's too dark!"
Batman's been in about 95% of the Justice Leagues that have ever existed in the comics. He needs to be a film. It's as simple as that. You may not like it, but then, you don't have to watch it if you don't want to. The people who DO want to see it, the people who DO want a Justice League movie should be allowed to have one and not have a giant piece of the League's puzzle missing just because YOU don't want it to happen.
"Bale and Routh should be in it!"
Should they? As the first "complaint" I detailed shows, there's a large percentage of people who don't even want to see Batman in the film. They want Nolan's movies to be totally disconnected from anything remotely fantasy or sci-fi. And y'know what? Not having Bale in the movie does EXACTLY that. With Bale not in it, the Justice League movie can be a completely different entity than Nolan's Batman movies.
It could instead tie into Keaton's Batman or Kilmer's or whatever you want. The Nolan movies will exist in their own, realistic, adult, gritty world, and the JL movie will be in it's own fantasy, sci-fi world. Everyone gets what they want - Batman in a JL movie, a seperation of the Nolan films from everything else, Bale being guaranteed to appear in a third Nolan Batman film - with as little possible sacrafice as possible.
Also, due to having different actors, we'll end up being treated to different interpretations of the characters, and different ways of playing the characters. Y'know, we're going to see at least three movies with Bale as Batman, hopefully we'll see three with Routh as Superman - but what recasting them in the JL movie does is give us - the audience, the fans - a chance to see another interpretation, another version of the characters without sacraficing seeing Bale or Routh or whoever. We'll still have the Nolan movies. We'll still have Bale's performances in them. But now, we'll have something else. We'll have something MORE.
"The production is being rushed!"
How on Earth is the production being rushed? The script was commissioned in February, they've been done writing (at least drafts of) it for quite some time now. As for filming, they're planning for filming to start in the beginning of 2008. The release date is Summer 2009.
When did the filming of Batman Begins start? The beginning of 2004. It's release date was Summer 2005. When did Superman Returns start filming? The beginning of 2005. It's release date was Summer 2006. When did The Dark Knight start filming? The beginning of 2007. With a release date of Summer 2008.
Starting to see a trend here? All of DC's films - good films, at that - have been produced in the same time frame as they're giving the Justice League movie. If those movies weren't rushed (and I haven't heard ANYONE every say they were), why would the JL movie be rushed?
While it's true, I'll admit, WB IS pushing for JL to come out quickly; they're not having it be developed over 5, 10, 15 years like the Superman and Batman movies. But - and this is a fact, not just my opinion - if you have a good script, a good director, you don't need 5, 10, 15 years to properly develop a film. You need 6 months for pre-production, a year for production and post...and that's exactly what Justice League is getting.
"It doesn't have a good director!"
Alright, while it's true, George Miller hasn't made a lot of films in his career, it's also true - the films he has made - have been EXTREMELY well recieved and well liked by the majority of viewers. Whether it be a family film like Babe, or a cult favorite like Mad Max, or an Oscar-winning annimated film, it's obvious - IMO, at least - Miller knows what he's doing, and has been successful in making films. Does his style match the Justice League? Well, he obviously could throw the JLA into Babe or Happy Feet's universes, but to say he couldn't adapt - find - a style to fit the JLA and work with the JLA...that just doesn't hold water to me. Especially since - as I said - he has been successful in multiple genres.
"It'll be really cheesy."
Now that, I can see. Granted, I never consider cheesiness to be a bad thing in its own right, but it's definitely a possibly/probably true statement.
"The script sounds bad."
Okay, that's another complain I can see. I don't quite agree with it as I personally have liked everything I've heard about the film, if you don't like it, that's your right, I certainly can't argue against it.
So yeah, if you don't like the idea of a Justice League movie and have some reasoning I didn't think of and didn't included, please post it, I'd love to hear it, and see if it has any merit, but I don't think I'll ever understand most of the complaints above.