Your views/problems/thoughts on Miles and Millar

[Binker]

To me, I think their problem was simple: they weren't just afraid, they were overexplaining the simpleness of Superman that every single person knows about.

The overexplaining part? Well, from Seasons 1-7, I always got that feeling that they had a new step for Clark to step on to to move forward, but pulled him back in the next episode, move again and back again. And it wasn't until a mid season finale, or a complete season finale, that Clark finally took that next step. But it started all over again when the next season(s) started. Wait, maybe that isn't good to explain. Let me say it like this:

I think they thought no one have or could've begin to understand, not just why Clark became Superman, but why everything about Superman came out of Clark's brain (the costume, his role, etc). The fact is Superman is a guy with superpowers, who fights the baddies from small to big to extreme threats, and wears a blue costume with a red cape and a "S" on his chest. Now, like Batman, there is more to it than that, but no matter how much you try, that IS the character. Miles and Millar must not have known this, otherwise they would've made sure the show nor Clark was slow as the series moved on. Furthermore, maybe THEY didn't get Superman, and did these changes just for them to understand him themselves. This leads to the other problem: fear.

The fear part is better to explain and from its clues, as we've felt the agony each season. I'm going to have to agree with Brain from Comic Geek Speak who said that once Smallville got into season five, that's when it should've been called Metropolis, Clark moving to Metropolis, and basically what we've been seeing now from season eight should've came from season five. But since they didn't do that, what happened was that they got themselves a character they didn't know what to do, and once season six came around with Green Arrow and later the pre-JLA, it almost became their show instead of being about Clark. I think Miles and Millar were just afraid that, since Smallville was about that one thing, moving on thus reshaping that one thing might've meant disaster.

Now, I'm not defending these two guys, maybe all that I'm doing is explaining what I believe is their damn behavior and thinking process. And now, its your turn...

 

[SV Fan]

To sum it up as simple as possible:

1. Clark Kent's life (young or old) should not be written like Dawson's Creek with Kryptonite(ie more action less romance please). Shows like Lost or Battlestar Galactica do perfectly fine having romantic subplots, but the story and action are in the forfront. Smallville seems to take the opposite approach and make the romantic plot the main focus with Clark journey and action on the show being secondary

2. College - if they sent the cast to college, then it wouldn't look like they stalling Clark, instead of staying in his barn/home and being all mopey and depressed he would have something going on in his life that would give them another 4 years to make it seem like Clark is slowly moving forward. In all honesty what difference would it make having Clark work with Chloe at the DP or at some room at college(yes none). It was very short sited on TPTB's part to not put much stock into College and Seasons 6+7 paid dearly for it.

3. Why Kill Johnathon? - This was one of the most interesting dynamics in the first 4 seasons, so in season 5 they kill of Johnathon and start passing off his role to Chloe for the most part. When a 40 year old guy is the person who is giving Clark advice it seems believable, when a girl who is the same age as Clark has to tell him how to act it makes Clark look pathetic. I could also add they totally misused Martha and her importance in Clark's life

 

[Lane & Kent]

To sum it up as simple as possible:

1. Clark Kent's life (young or old) should not be written like Dawson's Creek with Kryptonite(ie more action less romance please). Shows like Lost or Battlestar Galactica do perfectly fine having romantic subplots, but the story and action are in the forfront. Smallville seems to take the opposite approach and make the romantic plot the main focus with Clark journey and action on the show being secondary

2. College - if they sent the cast to college, then it wouldn't look like they stalling Clark, instead of staying in his barn/home and being all mopey and depressed he would have something going on in his life that would give them another 4 years to make it seem like Clark is slowly moving forward. In all honesty what difference would it make having Clark work with Chloe at the DP or at some room at college(yes none). It was very short sited on TPTB's part to not put much stock into College and Seasons 6+7 paid dearly for it.

3. Why Kill Johnathon? - This was one of the most interesting dynamics in the first 4 seasons, so in season 5 they kill of Johnathon and start passing off his role to Chloe for the most part. When a 40 year old guy is the person who is giving Clark advice it seems believable, when a girl who is the same age as Clark has to tell him how to act it makes Clark look pathetic. I could also add they totally misused Martha and her importance in Clark's life

Totally agree.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

"Miles and Millar" are one in the same. Miles Millar is the man's name and the other guy was Al Gough.

And your post has a metric ton of assumption in supposition in it.

 

[RakuMon]

3. Why Kill Johnathon? - This was one of the most interesting dynamics in the first 4 seasons, so in season 5 they kill of Johnathon and start passing off his role to Chloe for the most part. When a 40 year old guy is the person who is giving Clark advice it seems believable, when a girl who is the same age as Clark has to tell him how to act it makes Clark look pathetic. I could also add they totally misused Martha and her importance in Clark's life

Yeah, can't argue with this.

 

[The Sarge]

"Miles and Millar" are one in the same. Miles Millar is the man's name and the other guy was Al Gough.

or this.

 

[DrMylesOBoogie]

ive been rewatching the show on dvd and for me I've pinpointed the shows decline as soon as the introduced Jor-El. everything just became a directionless convoluted mess. characters motivations changed on a weekly basis to suit what was going on in a singular episode.

 

[DrMylesOBoogie]

3. Why Kill Johnathon? - This was one of the most interesting dynamics in the first 4 seasons, so in season 5 they kill of Johnathon and start passing off his role to Chloe for the most part. When a 40 year old guy is the person who is giving Clark advice it seems believable, when a girl who is the same age as Clark has to tell him how to act it makes Clark look pathetic. I could also add they totally misused Martha and her importance in Clark's life

Think the actor wasn't happy with the shows decline in quality and voiced a couple of concerns publicly and then when SR came out with a dead Pa in continuity they decided they could just follow suit.

 

[Webhead2006]

yea there was a bunch of things that was stupid to do in the show and it did get a bit out of hand during season 4, and then tom by many reports said was very unhappy with the show during seaon 5-7.

 

[The Caped Knight]

To much focus on Lana Lang (she's not this important in the mythology) She was just the first love in high School . Not all the garbage she's been Season 1-7 .

Way to much Teen soap opera drama in Season 1-6

Chloe Sullivan - Seriously who need superman with this super smart blonde around always saving the damn day .? I can't believe how much more heroism is in her than in Clark that's just sad. She's doing the work Jonathan & Martha should've been doing had tptb not killed off JK in season 5 or totally undermind Martha's character after Pa Kent's death .

 

[Webhead2006]

yea it would have been nice if they just kept chloe the good friend and help out a bit here and there be more like early seasons chloe. Lana should have been gone after season 4. Yea it was a bad move loosing the kent family dynamic.

 

[Whiteflag]

My problem with AG/MM? It took them far too long to leave the show.

 

[Superfreak]

To sum it up as simple as possible:

1. Clark Kent's life (young or old) should not be written like Dawson's Creek with Kryptonite(ie more action less romance please). Shows like Lost or Battlestar Galactica do perfectly fine having romantic subplots, but the story and action are in the forfront. Smallville seems to take the opposite approach and make the romantic plot the main focus with Clark journey and action on the show being secondary

2. College - if they sent the cast to college, then it wouldn't look like they stalling Clark, instead of staying in his barn/home and being all mopey and depressed he would have something going on in his life that would give them another 4 years to make it seem like Clark is slowly moving forward. In all honesty what difference would it make having Clark work with Chloe at the DP or at some room at college(yes none). It was very short sited on TPTB's part to not put much stock into College and Seasons 6+7 paid dearly for it.

3. Why Kill Johnathon? - This was one of the most interesting dynamics in the first 4 seasons, so in season 5 they kill of Johnathon and start passing off his role to Chloe for the most part. When a 40 year old guy is the person who is giving Clark advice it seems believable, when a girl who is the same age as Clark has to tell him how to act it makes Clark look pathetic. I could also add they totally misused Martha and her importance in Clark's life

1)I agree
2)I agree
3)JKent's death allow John Glover's Lionel Luthor to really shine. I actually found John Schneider to be kind of annoying in the role of JKent after a while, and was actually quite happy that he died... and was even happier with his replacement.

 

[PierreS]

Enough of Clark Kent being The Flash.

He's Superman!!!

Enough with the super speed. I know he has them but they've been overusing it.

Will they ever show him as Superman??

Because now they all know what Clark looks like without the glasses. How can he be Superman when they all know what he looks like?

 

[Webhead2006]

yea i said this before that was a big problem al/miles did with the show. I really wished they had clark keep the glasses after he was blinded and then folks like lois/jimmy/etc... wouldnt know what he looked like.