"You've always been the caretaker." The Shining Appreciation Thread.

[gwynplaine]

 

[redhawk23]

^ Great gif.

 

[redhawk23]

There's a version of this gif that is completely still for almost 4 minutes and then suddenly springs into the laugh, just to mess with people.

 

[redhawk23]

^

I love both the book and the film, but I like

Spoiler

the Maze ending better than Boiler Room ending.

I like the book's ending quite a bit more

Spoiler

With the boiler room ending, Jack, who has failed at everything succeeds in not killing his son. Its just an ounce of empathy for the characters which Kubrick withholds. It really underlines the main difference between the film and book versions of the story. Kubrick described his film as the story of family slowly going mad together. In King's story, every step of the way is a building, inevitable tragedy. Kubrick's film is quite cold. King has a lot of feeling for the characters. He himself wouldn't admit it or reflect on it for many years but Jack is very much an author-insert character. When Jack returns to drinking, it holds so much more weight in the book because in that version of the story, its a man giving into a struggle. With Nicholson in the role in the film, Jack's pretty much nuts to begin with.

 

[gwynplaine]

I like the book's ending quite a bit more

Spoiler

With the boiler room ending, Jack, who has failed at everything succeeds in not killing his son. Its just an ounce of empathy for the characters which Kubrick withholds. It really underlines the main difference between the film and book versions of the story. Kubrick described his film as the story of family slowly going mad together. In King's story, every step of the way is a building, inevitable tragedy. Kubrick's film is quite cold. King has a lot of feeling for the characters. He himself wouldn't admit it or reflect on it for many years but Jack is very much an author-insert character. When Jack returns to drinking, it holds so much more weight in the book because in that version of the story, its a man giving into a struggle. With Nicholson in the role in the film, Jack's pretty much nuts to begin with.

Yes, good point. I haven't read the book in a while but like I said I love them both and love how Kubrick translated and truly adapted King's novel from one medium into another different one. I thought that the addition of the maze which besides being beautiful visually and fantastically shot brought other psychological and interesting mythological layers. I think i remember that maybe the (very minor) issue I add with the boiler room in the book was that

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the minute it is said that the boiler room needs constant tending in order to not blow up I pretty much knew what the outcome was going to be

There is one thing I regret not seeing, if not in the film at least in deleted scenes, is Jack's discovery of the Overlook scrapbook.

 

[Visceral]

I love conspiracies, but I am highly offended when it comes to the moon landing one.

However, when it comes to the moon landing and the shining there is seriously something else going on. I don't think Kubrick faked the moon landing. but there is something else going on here. The film is a literal maze, with codes. I don't know if there is any clear answer to any of them, but I've seen the film so many times and it never bores and usually I am thinking about hours after viewing it.

Hard to beat that experience.

 

[Piper Maru]

I read somewhere that The Shining is about the murder of Native Americans?

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

That's one theory.

May I say that I love the windows in the office of the hotel manager. That's the craziest part of the movie for me.

 

[Visceral]

I read somewhere that The Shining is about the murder of Native Americans?

Right the holocaust is also a present theme.

 

[gwynplaine]

I love conspiracies, but I am highly offended when it comes to the moon landing one.

However, when it comes to the moon landing and the shining there is seriously something else going on. I don't think Kubrick faked the moon landing. but there is something else going on here. The film is a literal maze, with codes. I don't know if there is any clear answer to any of them, but I've seen the film so many times and it never bores and usually I am thinking about hours after viewing it.

Hard to beat that experience.

Same here, it's almost like it gets better with each viewing

That's one theory.

May I say that I love the windows in the office of the hotel manager. That's the craziest part of the movie for me.

I love the "Interview" Scene in general. Nicholson is great when he is being interviewed by a figure of authority, like at the beginning of The Shining or Cuckoo's Nest.
I also like Bill Watsont::

Reading an interesting book about the Shining right now by Roger Luckhurst. Besides the Zapruder Film has there ever been a film more studied and picked apart than the Shining ?t:

 

[gwynplaine]

 

[gwynplaine]

 

[:eek:]

Design a Shining-Inspired Hedge Maze for the Stanley Hotel

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/01/11/design-a-shining-inspired-hedge-maze-for-the-stanley-hotel

 

[:eek:]

The Chickening:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i17pORf_iE4

 

[:eek:]

http://centipedepress.com/studieshorror/shining.html

 

[gwynplaine]

^ Great, thanks

 

[:eek:]

Sad news

Joe Turkel Dead: ‘The Shining’, ‘Bladerunner’ Actor Was 94 – Deadline

 

[Herofan]

Always loved Nicholson as Jack, I don't think he was nuts from the beginning but he was very bitter from the beginning-which novel Jack also was. I initially thought Shelley Duvall overacted as Wendy, then rewatching also think she did great.

It is very weird that Kubrick just skipped the family's first month in the hotel but it's easy for me, I think for most fans of both the book and film, to imagine that a lot of similar events and growing distance and tensions took place.