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Justice League Zack Snyder Directing Justice League - Part 4

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That and the simple fact that almost all of the CGI had to be redone because of reshoots and so it was all done in a short amount of time.

THIS and it’s pitifully noticeable.

Why not jut delay the film to give Zack time or if he doesn’t want to do it period, just delay it so you’re not rushing to write corny dialogue and finish shoddy CG?
 
It all boils down to how people are not willing to accept some other stylistic choice for CGI.

I really wonder if Snyder made a JL movie set on Apokolips, how many fans will like the CGI ?


No, that's not it. I'm not talking about stylistic choices. I'm talking about how fake it looks in that scene where Aquaman crashes a parademon straight through a building and then walks away. That's an example of something that was in the trailer, which I'm sure was put together before Whedon's reshoots. Nothing about that looks remotely realistic.

These aren't stylistic choices. These are people who can't do their jobs very well. I'm sorry, but I don't think anyone says, "Let's make it REALLY obvious none of this is real. Remember that green screen scene in Wayne's World? Yeah, let's make it look like that."
 
This. It prevented me from enjoying the film much more than I actually did.



That last one is something we should have gotten something a lot more of.
I am seeing the movie in an hour. I hope that I enjoy it given that I know a lot of it is missing.
 
The one problem with the Bay comparison is that Bay doesn't try to make anything more then popcorn fluff with his blockbusters. While Snyder tries to make more complicated movies he just isn't a good enough director to pull it off.

Which is why I said that he's Bay if Bay was pretentious and thought he was Stanley Kubrick. Yes, Snyder tries... but fails completely and doesn't even seem to realize he's failing if all those post MoS and BvS interviews are anything to go by.
 
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Oh bless his cottons....love this guy, we appreciate your hard work and dedication Zack. Thank you for everything you've given us and the DCEU. I can only speak for myself, but I am indebted to your vision and strength of character.
 
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No, that's not it. I'm not talking about stylistic choices. I'm talking about how fake it looks in that scene where Aquaman crashes a parademon straight through a building and then walks away. That's an example of something that was in the trailer, which I'm sure was put together before Whedon's reshoots. Nothing about that looks remotely realistic.

These aren't stylistic choices. These are people who can't do their jobs very well. I'm sorry, but I don't think anyone says, "Let's make it REALLY obvious none of this is real. Remember that green screen scene in Wayne's World? Yeah, let's make it look like that."

Genuinely confused with what your complaint is.
Are you asking for a better render or Aquaman to not surf on a parademon, crashing down through a building and bunny hopping before walking away?
One of these is in fact a stylistic choice.
 
The Thing that makes that Aquaman moment so dodgy is the complete lack of believable physics. They drop down through the building... Then fly out the front of it really fast as though they weigh nothing.
 
Genuinely confused with what your complaint is.
Are you asking for a better render or Aquaman to not surf on a parademon, crashing down through a building and bunny hopping before walking away?
One of these is in fact a stylistic choice.

A better render. I have no problem with the scene itself. In fact, I think it could have looked amazing if competent people were working on it. Instead, when I saw it, my thought was, "Well, that looks fake as hell."
 
A better render. I have no problem with the scene itself. In fact, I think it could have looked amazing if competent people were working on it. Instead, when I saw it, my thought was, "Well, that looks fake as hell."

Well, you've seen the trailers and how they kept working on it even after Snyder wasn't there.
 
Zack’s untimely departure from this movie is like having Jim Lee draw the first two and a half parts of a three part graphic novel and then replacing him with Rob Liefeld to finish it up.
 
Zack’s untimely departure from this movie is like having Jim Lee draw the first two and a half parts of a three part graphic novel and then replacing him with Rob Liefeld to finish it up.

So you mean that Batman and Superman look like twins in the first half of the movie and then in the second half, neither of them have feet?


Kewl.
 
The one problem with the Bay comparison is that Bay doesn't try to make anything more then popcorn fluff with his blockbusters. While Snyder tries to make more complicated movies he just isn't a good enough director to pull it off.

Thing is, Snyder *doesn't* make more complicated, ambitious movies. He creates movies with the *facade* of being more complicated and ambitious, but if you actually look beneath the surface, you find the same Bay-style juvenalia. He includes just enough of the forms of depth that it can be mistaken for such on a casual glance, but never ever lets the demands of actual depth get in the way of making the product kewl.

Basically, he benefits from that his favorite aesthetic style is "late 80s comic book deconstructionism", so when he makes yet another incoherent mess of a movie that has no understanding of character or story, it *looks* like what someone might envision a deep dark movie would look like.
 
That and the simple fact that almost all of the CGI had to be redone because of reshoots and so it was all done in a short amount of time.

Where did you get this so called "fact" from?
 
Where did you get this so called "fact" from?
All the reshoots were obvious when you look at supermans disformed face. The previous stuff they kept was good, why replace parts with bad cgi and crap dialogue
 


Translation: "please, PLEASE don't blame me for this mess of a movie"

To me this comes off as a classier version of Josh Trank's "Fan4stic wasn't my fault" tweet.

Thing is, Snyder *doesn't* make more complicated, ambitious movies. He creates movies with the *facade* of being more complicated and ambitious, but if you actually look beneath the surface, you find the same Bay-style juvenalia. He includes just enough of the forms of depth that it can be mistaken for such on a casual glance, but never ever lets the demands of actual depth get in the way of making the product kewl.

Basically, he benefits from that his favorite aesthetic style is "late 80s comic book deconstructionism", so when he makes yet another incoherent mess of a movie that has no understanding of character or story, it *looks* like what someone might envision a deep dark movie would look like.

:up: Well said!
 
Translation: "please, PLEASE don't blame me for this mess of a movie"

To me this comes off as a classier version of Josh Trank's "Fan4stic wasn't my fault" tweet.

The reaching on this post is astounding, some of you guys crack me up. :funny:
 
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