Justice League Zack Snyder Directing Justice League - Part 6

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[idiot09]

Well, with Snyder supposedly not directing anymore of the films, I suppose now is the time for the writers who did like his work to come out of the woodwork. Never mind that not too long ago it was also the same newspaper here that said BvS was so desperate to be serious that it forgot to have fun.

Now some years later, that same paper says we should be sorry to see Snyder's era go? Get out of here. Yes, I may be a tad bitter.

Well its kind of a open secret that a lot of folks/critics(not all of course)like these movies but are afraid to say that in fear of negative backlash and judgement. I read an interesting research paper that goes into this phenomenon where the twitter culture of instant gratification with likes and retweets conditions us to not say anything that strays too far from the norm, in the fear of being "ostracized

Article in Washington Post about why Snyder will be missed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...be-sorry-to-see-it-go/?utm_term=.164eb9ec6142

Great great article. Wouldnt be suprised to see far more of these kinda articles written down the road. Not the first time an radical artist's work is seen more favourably down the line.

 

[Joeyjojo72]

Zack Snyder : Radical Artist.

Batman vs Superman: Radical Art?

 

[Micromind]

Those who say that general audience 'hated' BvS, fail to explain why it earned as much money at Box Office as it did.

Or, why overall (DVD+Bluray) sales in US are more than Captain America Civil War.

BvS: $77,076,559

Captain America: Civil War (2016): $75,922,153

Doctor Strange $44,551,339

Ant Man: $66,063,234

 

[idiot09]

Zack Snyder : Radical Artist.

Batman vs Superman: Radical Art?

Well I do considering filmmaking an artform(as well as a craft), and since its a movie that affected a lot of people in a very personal way, and is very divisive...I dont see why not!

 

[NotNickFury]

Well its kind of a open secret that a lot of folks/critics(not all of course)like these movies but are afraid to say that in fear of negative backlash and judgement. I read an interesting research paper that goes into this phenomenon where the twitter culture of instant gratification with likes and retweets conditions us to not say anything that strays too far from the norm, in the fear of being "ostracized

Oh, I'm sure there are tons of folks like that. They're idiots. You like what you like and if someone disagrees, then...that's it. They just disagree.

Heck, take comic book films themselves. I'm sure the folks who put up negative reviews of overly positively received ones aren't 100 percent thinking about what backlash they might get or if they'll be ostracized. Comes with the territory.

 

[idiot09]

Oh, I'm sure there are tons of folks like that. They're idiots. You like what you like and if someone disagrees, then...that's it. They just disagree.

Heck, take comic book films themselves. I'm sure the folks who put up negative reviews of overly positively received ones aren't 100 percent thinking about what backlash they might get or if they'll be ostracized. Comes with the territory.

Absolutely. And sometimes we are guilty of it ourselves. Like the other day someone told they liked a particular musician and I was like "really?" and then realised thats not a cool thing to do at all

Anyway. Atleast good to see some positivity shared.

 

[_Superman_]

Those who say that general audience 'hated' BvS, fail to explain why it earned as much money at Box Office as it did.

Or, why overall (DVD+Bluray) sales in US are more than Captain America Civil War.

BvS: $77,076,559

Captain America: Civil War (2016): $75,922,153

Doctor Strange $44,551,339

Ant Man: $66,063,234

Exactly and Civil Wars wasn't even really Cap's movie but more of an Avengers movie flying under Cap's name and introduced Spider-Man and Black Panther.

 

[STARMAN]

For the most part disagreements are far more civilized here than the rest of the internet.

 

[random_havoc]

for the most part disagreements are far more civilized here than the rest of the internet.

i'll kill you for saying that!!

 

[NotNickFury]

Absolutely. And sometimes we are guilty of it ourselves. Like the other day someone told they liked a particular musician and I was like "really?" and then realised thats not a cool thing to do at all

Anyway. Atleast good to see some positivity shared.

Was it Nickelback?

 

[idiot09]

Was it Nickelback?

One direction.

 

[Consona]

the speed-ramping effect he so loved — in which he slowed down the action and sped it back up as the camera drifted along, a spectator to carnage — perfectly mimicked the experience of reading a comic book. You see a frame and then another frame, but not what happens between them. Speeding up, then slowing down, suggests how the eye flits across the page, going from one act of violence to another.

Interesting.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Snyder should be everyone's physical goals tho at over 50 years old.

 

[Eddie Dean]

Zack Snyder : Radical Artist.

Batman vs Superman: Radical Art?

Snyder is definitely... radical, dude!

 

[Infinity9999x]

Those who say that general audience 'hated' BvS, fail to explain why it earned as much money at Box Office as it did.

Or, why overall (DVD+Bluray) sales in US are more than Captain America Civil War.

BvS: $77,076,559

Captain America: Civil War (2016): $75,922,153

Doctor Strange $44,551,339

Ant Man: $66,063,234

Ehh, in theaters BvS made less than TDK or TDKR, and it had th added bonus of two of the most famous superhero’s in the world together for the first time. And it had some of the biggest drops for blockbusters from week to week.

While I don’t think the genera public hated the film at all, many clearly had an issue with it. We’ve seen what a popular Batman movie can do when it’s well made, BvS came in under the previous two Batman solo films. With the addition of more expensive tickets and 3D.

The film was going to make a lot of money regardless, but it clearly did not do what WB wanted it to do, or what it should have done. Popular characters will always sell to an extent. Spider-Man 3 had a big opening too.

The home sales definitely show that people still have an interest in it, so it’s certainly not universally panned. The article that others shared earlier made a good point. The film that Synder made was a deconstruction of the characters...but you have to build your characters before you tear them down. It just was too much too fast. Personally I didn’t care for the take, but it’s clear some certainly enjoy the film. I won’t deny that. But I also think it’s not accurate to try and pretend the general public didn’t have an issue either. Spider-man 3’s dvd sales exceed all the films listed in this post, and I don’t think that’s indicative that the genera public loves that film.

 

[Reel-Man]

I think among the factors at play, people weren't that invested in Superman at that point and Batman was "re-started" so soon after a very acclaimed take. It's similar in a sense to Raimi's Spider-Man trilogy followed by Amazing Spider-Man so soon. Also the movie doesn't have a happy ending and isn't a very cheery movie where it would have great re-watchability for audiences. Take any movie that people go to see repeatedly, it's usually the lighter toned, fast paced and humorous movies that get good week to week consistency.

 

[Infinity9999x]

I think among the factors at play, people weren't that invested in Superman at that point and Batman was "re-started" so soon after a very acclaimed take. It's similar in a sense to Raimi's Spider-Man trilogy followed by Amazing Spider-Man so soon. Also the movie doesn't have a happy ending and isn't a very cheery movie where it would have great re-watchability for audiences. Take any movie that people go to see repeatedly, it's usually the lighter toned, fast paced and humorous movies that get good week to week consistency.

I would agree that the reboot definitely added to the apathy. A solo Batman set up would have helped, or not doing a deconstructionist version of Batman and Superman when no status quo for either character had been fully established yet.

As for tone and rewatchability...I think just being a good film has more to do with that then if it’s light hearted or funny. Titanic and TDK weren’t the most light hearted, or funny, or even had happy endings, yet they’re both up there in terms of all time grosses.

 

[HellYeah]

Snyder should be everyone's physical goals tho at over 50 years old.

I'd like my director jacked and swole pls, and my movie dark and gritty.

 

[Limonade]

Snyder is definitely... radical, dude!

Similar to this rad dude with a bad tude!

 

[Infinity9999x]

That’s a solid pull he’s got going. I’ve typically don’t see the core rotate as much upwards during that exercise, but his trainer may want the extra movement. I’m intrigued now. I’m always looking for modifications to lifts.

 

[Reel-Man]

I would agree that the reboot definitely added to the apathy. A solo Batman set up would have helped, or not doing a deconstructionist version of Batman and Superman when no status quo for either character had been fully established yet.

As for tone and rewatchability...I think just being a good film has more to do with that then if it’s light hearted or funny. Titanic and TDK weren’t the most light hearted, or funny, or even had happy endings, yet they’re both up there in terms of all time grosses.

For your first comment regarding "good film" that's subjective so i won't go over that really. As to the rest, i get the point you're trying to drive across but those are bad examples. Historical romantic love story with heartthrob Leonardo Dicaprio and the other is the sequel to an acclaimed movie with the biggest villain of them all, the Joker. That combined with Heath Ledger's performance and passing just made this an even bigger hit. And compared to BvS thematic tones, TDK was lighter and more fun. Batman v Superman was politically charged, a conflicted "god" a vengeful murderous Batman (which was never show on screen like this) and the death of the hero character. Not exactly a film i would take my kids to see and i'm sure they wouldn't ask either.

 

[flickchick85]

Snyder should be everyone's physical goals tho at over 50 years old.

Regardless of what I think of his work, he is indeed one of the hottest famous directors out there. Perhaps 2nd only to Cary Fukunaga.

 

[RomanticPenguin]

Regardless of what I think of his work, he is indeed one of the hottest famous directors out there. Perhaps 2nd only to Cary Fukunaga.

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