Justice League Zack Snyder Directing Justice League - Part 8

[Erzengel]

Ain't gonna happen for a 200-300 million project. Yeah, they made Joker, but that was a cheaper film. The proposed Justice League sequels no doubt would have cost more than even Justice League already did. There's no financial justification. Only possible way I could see the sequels being made would be as comic books. But that'd be it.

Here's the thing. If Snyder fans got what they wanted and Snyder was allowed to finish his opus, we never would have got the Joker. And to be honest, Joker and probably the scopes of BOP and Shazam are direct correlation to the expenditure of the Snyder films.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

MOS was the 3rd most expensive CBM produced at the time of it's release behind only TDKR @ $250M and TASM at $230M. Avengers was 4th at $220M.

Why TASM cost so much I'll never know. There was nothing in it to warrant that big of a budget.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

MOS was the 3rd most expensive CBM produced at the time of it's release behind only TDKR @ $250M and TASM at $230M. Avengers was 4th at $220M.

WB really need to reign in their CBM budgets and it's seems they are learning their lesson now. The likes of Green Lantern and MOS should not have had $200 million + budgets when they were the first movies in the franchise.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

WB really need to reign in their CBM budgets and it's seems they are learning their lesson now. The likes of Green Lantern and MOS should not have had $200 million + budgets when they were the first movies in the franchise.

Big budgets are OK imo if it looks like the money is on screen. It was with MoS but it wasn't with Green Lantern.

 

[Erzengel]

WB really need to reign in their CBM budgets and it's seems they are learning their lesson now. The likes of Green Lantern and MOS should not have had $200 million + budgets when they were the first movies in the franchise.

I don't know if WB knows anything tbh, because their numbers are all over the place.

I think ideally they look at Joker and Aquaman thinking they can spend $55 to $180M and get $1B which I think they were even surprised by their outcomes or their previous success with TDK and TDKR and then spend $85 to $100M for BOP and Shazam and get $200M-$364M.

You need to spend $250M for a JL movie. There's no getting around that.

 

[DS80]

So, this is a victory?
Buried on HBO MAX?

HBO Max is AT&T main focus..... So much that WB suits are angry... How is it being buried? If anything it's at the forefront.

With Warner Bros. and Warner Max, Is AT&T Setting Up a Sibling Rivalry?

With Warner Bros. and Warner Max, Is AT&T Setting Up a Sibling Rivalry?

“HBO Max is the locomotive there,” says one veteran producer: “That’s what matters to AT&T. Everything is dictated by the needs of HBO Max.”

Those fans deserve all the credit tho. From raising 100s of thousands of dollars for a good cause, to having a flying banner on a plane with the hashtag etc. I for one will keep my expectations about the flick on check. I of course believe we will obviously see a more cohesive flick for one, so that is a win.

Props to @DS80 for reaching out the first time. Give me Snyder's number and I'll give you Lexie Belle's digits.

I'll think about it...


It's only the beginning my friend. Snyder takeover on its way.

 

[SupermanFan]

While I totally agree with you.

I do wonder what hypothetically could happen if people react well to a more positive Superman in Snyder's JL once it's released.

I say nothing because while a lot of people will see the SC in reality it won’t be a case where billions watch it and obsess over it. For many they’ll view it and carry on with their lives. It’s not gonna be put in a situation where it can generate a fortune for a WB either. It’ll come and go, DC Films have moved on.

Ain't gonna happen for a 200-300 million project. Yeah, they made Joker, but that was a cheaper film. The proposed Justice League sequels no doubt would have cost more than even Justice League already did. There's no financial justification. Only possible way I could see the sequels being made would be as comic books. But that'd be it.

Yeah no way is he getting entrusted with a budget like that by WB again.

I think at best animated adaptations but yeah comic books is far more likely if anything.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Big budgets are OK imo if it looks like the money is on screen. It was with MoS but it wasn't with Green Lantern.

I agree the money was on screen in MOS. But sequels always cost more as there is an expectation to go bigger. When the first movie costs $200 million + to make, things get ridiculous.

 

[DS80]

Why are you still bringing up WB? They don't matter.

 

[SupermanFan]

I agree the money was on screen in MOS. But sequels always cost more as there is an expectation to go bigger. When the first movie costs $200 million + to make, things get ridiculous.

Thing is though if you don’t make enough money then you can’t justify a big budget.

 

[Erzengel]

I agree the money was on screen in MOS. But sequels always cost more as there is an expectation to go bigger. When the first movie costs $200 million + to make, things get ridiculous.

I think it has to do with TDK in a sense. You had $180M to make TDK which was the first in the genre to score $1B. Then you have TDKR filming around around the same time as MOS with a $250M budget with Nolan involved in both projects.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Why are you still bringing up WB? They don't matter.

Is there a chance we get more DC movies from Snyder DS?

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Thing is though if you don’t make enough money then you can’t justify a big budget.

That's what I am saying. Look at Green Lantern as a prime example. And even more recently Terminator Dark Fate, neither of which needed the budget they had IMO.

I think it has to do with TDK in a sense. You had $180M to make TDK which was the first in the genre to score $1B. Then you have TDKR filming around around the same time as MOS with a $250M budget with Nolan involved in both projects.

Even so, after The Avengers you didn't see Marvel giving $250M budgets to its solo movies.

 

[kguillou]

Lol other geek outlets are gonna be reporting on this, people will be disappointed if zack DOESNT announce it tomorrow now haha

I’m also wondering with all this hubbub if the main news outlets like variety, hollywood reporter etc are checking with their sources on this too. Maybe one of them will confirm this first.

 

[Erzengel]

Even so, after The Avengers you didn't see Marvel giving $250M budgets to its solo movies.

Civil War notwithstanding as it while it's a Cap movie, it is a significant ensemble cost $250M.

But there are bunch of movies that ranged $200-$232M. Black Panther, GOTG 1 & 2, Iron Man 3.

 

[DS80]

Is there a chance we get more DC movies from Snyder DS?

You don't need to ask me for you to figure it out. Of course he's going to make more. Just like Disney+ has Mandalorian and Amazon has Lord Of The Rings, HBO Max will have Justice League.

Probably won't get the announcement about Justice League 2 & 3 in the coming weeks, but it's a foregone conclusion.

Zack Snyder's Justice League is going to be very-very-very successful on HBO Max. That's why they're giving him the money. It sets up a universe and ends with a cliffhanger.

 

[SupermanFan]

Never gonna happen. It’s ZS JL and that’s it. Maybe a comic at best animated continuation but it ain’t getting live action feature sequels.

 

[DS80]

Never gonna happen. It’s ZS JL and that’s it. Maybe a comic at best animated continuation but it ain’t getting live action feature sequels.

You told me a month ago that they're never going to let him film more stuff and he needs to strike a deal for a release of a workprint.

I'll be shush if I were you.

 

[Erzengel]

You don't need to ask me for you to figure it out. Of course he's going to make more. Just like Disney+ has Mandalorian and Amazon has Lord Of The Rings, HBO Max will have Justice League.

Probably won't get the announcement about Justice League 2 & 3 in the coming weeks, but it's a foregone conclusion.

Zack Snyder's Justice League is going to be very-very-very successful on HBO Max. That's why they're giving him the money. It sets up a universe and ends with a cliffhanger.

So they are going to get Affleck and Cavill back for a JL2 and 3? Live action?

 

[SupermanFan]

You told me a month ago that they're never going to let him film more stuff and he needs to strike a deal for a release of a workprint.

I'll be shush if I were you.

lol trust me you haven’t said anything I’ve heard elsewhere so I know your full of it.

We’ll see if he gets to do anything extra, I’ve said at best he’ll film Harry Lennie MM scene but no way do I see Affleck or even Cavill coming back for reshoots. Plus I don’t see them paying the money for it. Then post JL there ain’t gonna be any sequels, this is a little release on a streaming service.

And no I won’t shush, you’ve done nothing to prove you know anything.

 

[divan]

You don't need to ask me for you to figure it out. Of course he's going to make more. Just like Disney+ has Mandalorian and Amazon has Lord Of The Rings, HBO Max will have Justice League.

Probably won't get the announcement about Justice League 2 & 3 in the coming weeks, but it's a foregone conclusion.

Zack Snyder's Justice League is going to be very-very-very successful on HBO Max. That's why they're giving him the money. It sets up a universe and ends with a cliffhanger.

But aren't the actors also a factor? Sure, Gadot seems on board and so does Affleck (though he's sending mixed signals too, he's supportive of Snyder but simulatenously wants to have nothing to do with CBMs in general anymore), but Cavill seems pretty uninterested at the moment, doesn't he?

By the way, if the Snyder Cut ends up becoming a reality as it seems at this moment, congratulations to the people who (respectfully) pushed for it to become reality.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Civil War notwithstanding as it while it's a Cap movie, it is a significant ensemble cost $250M.

But there are bunch of movies that ranged $200-$232M. Black Panther, GOTG 1 & 2, Iron Man 3.

GOTG 1 was $150 million budget as far as I remember, the sequel cost more but the first was a smash hit so that's expected. BP had already been introduced in the crazy popular CW and IM3 was the 3rd movie so was gonna have a bigger budget.

I agree on CW but that was also a threequel after very successful predecessors. Marvel have been so much better in handling budgets and giving large ones to the right projects.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

You don't need to ask me for you to figure it out. Of course he's going to make more. Just like Disney+ has Mandalorian and Amazon has Lord Of The Rings, HBO Max will have Justice League.

Probably won't get the announcement about Justice League 2 & 3 in the coming weeks, but it's a foregone conclusion.

Zack Snyder's Justice League is going to be very-very-very successful on HBO Max. That's why they're giving him the money. It sets up a universe and ends with a cliffhanger.

Sounds great. Only problem is I will have to find a way to access this all from the UKas we went getting HBO Max.

 

[kguillou]

Affleck is never putting on a costume ever again. I think he’ll support the release of the snyder cut as much as he can but hes not suiting up again, hes made that clear. Henry seems ready to move on.

@DS80 I’m not saying your full of it, i think you’ve shown you know some stuff but you have to admit when you look at it objectively and not as a fan, it doesnt make sense for them to Zack Snyder the full reigns to the Justice League back after ALL this happened over the past 7 years and three divisive films that forced them butcher the third one.

 

[SupermanFan]

But aren't the actors also a factor? Sure, Gadot seems on board and so does Affleck (though he's sending mixed signals too, he's supportive of Snyder but simulatenously wants to have nothing to do with CBMs in general anymore), but Cavill seems pretty uninterested at the moment, doesn't he?

And when would these scenes even get filmed? The world is in the state it’s in, there’s social distancing. Sets would also need to be built or rebuilt. It ain’t happening.