Ziggler gets a Wrestling Thread...It's About Damn Time!!!

[MMMMM...Pancakes]

How about that piped in crowd reaction for Layla.

They were just stunned by the hotness so they had to fill in the fake pop.

 

[MMMMM...Pancakes]

Lol, "The Unstoppable" John Cena, at least WWE is acknowledging that Cena doesn't lose.

 

[Metallo]

Even the piped crowd sounds kinda dead. AJ's the only one getting a reaction.

Laylas improved a LOT in the ring but she needs the sizzle in her character that she has in her looks. She's just not charismatic enough.

Layla may be champion but AJ is clearly the star of the division right now because she gives the people the gagga really well.

Daniel Bryan interrupting AJ's match! Everyone was right. The stuff with AJ and Bryan is hilarious.

 

[cabel]

I see what they did there.

 

[cabel]

Who would vote for guest timekeeper?

 

[Metallo]

Wow the Bryan and AJ team are over. I hope that soon Vickie brings in her daughter Shaul to fight AJ. Those two going at it hardcore is something I can get behind.

 

[Wheels]

Those two going at it hardcore is something I can get behind.

LOL I agree.

 

[MMMMM...Pancakes]

Wow the Bryan and AJ team are over. I hope that soon Vickie brings in her daughter Shaul to fight AJ. Those two going at it hardcore is something I can get behind.

I'd like to get behind it too.

 

[cabel]

I keep forgetting that Tyson Kidd's employed.

 

[cabel]

Huh, didn't see that coming.

 

[Specter313]

I keep forgetting that Tyson Kidd's employed.

I guarantee the only reason he's in the MITB is to be the spot monkey ala Shelton Benjamin in all his appearances.

 

[Slushy]

What would make Kelly quit?She's been WWE's golden girl

Their full-time traveling schedule fu**ing sucks.

 

[Slushy]

On the subject of the rocks movie status, when channing Tatum has be brought back to save your movie yeah you're a really big star.

That's not The Rock's fault. Channing Tatum is practically an A-Lister now so they had no choice, but to bring him back. Not the best actor, but his drawing power and work ethnic cannot be denied.

I haven't watched Wrestling in a number of years and was wondering what started the whole Daniel Bryan YES thing?

Bryan is THAT good!

 

[NDX]

Huh, I wonder if a few friends of mine are at that Extreme Rising show Shane Douglas is holding in my area tonight?

And oddly enough, there is a movie called Wrestler vs Zombie being made. I am... saddened by that note, seeing Douglas and Sylvester Terkay are in it.

 

[Slushy]

Losing to Lesnar instead of Rock would've made sense since it would've re-established a returning star who could've gone on a tear the entire year. But they've jacked up Lesnar's booking.

The Rock is a bigger star than Brock Lesnar and Brock owed a job to John.

Again, exactly. Beating Rock before he faced Lesnar would have been something they could have played off of long term. As it went now both matches were one and done one offs. The entire problem with the company is not enough long term thinking.

Years ago they had stuff tightly planned out a year in advance. There are no plans now. They book on the fly by the seats of their pants and it shows.

Or risk having had Cena defeat Rock AND Brock back to back. Fu** that!

Triple H lost clean to Goldberg on two PPV's so yeah, really killed his momentum.

He did. Did you not hear that Phoenix crowd at SummerSlam 2003? That whole arena was behind Goldberg and instead of capitalizing on it, HHH had to go in for himself and beat Bill just for the sake of it. By the time, he did put over Goldberg the following month at Unforgiven, nobody cared.

Vince books WWE not The Rock.

Vince tends to listen to suggestions from his main event talent (i.e., Shawn Michaels, Triple H, etc.)

 

[Hunter Rider]

Or risk having had Cena defeat Rock AND Brock back to back. Fu** that!

How is it a terrible idea to do that? Cena is the WWE flagship no matter how much you hate on him, and unlike Rock and Brock he cares about the business and will be there no matter what.

He did. Did you not hear that Phoenix crowd at SummerSlam 2003? That whole arena was behind Goldberg and instead of capitalizing on it, HHH had to go in for himself and beat Bill just for the sake of it. By the time, he did put over Goldberg the following month at Unforgiven, nobody cared.

Triple H was injured, that is why the match was changed from a singles match to a EC, Goldberg was booked like a beast in the cage and screwed, that meant if he was really hot the fanbase would be going nuts for him to get his revenge, they weren't though because despite that crowd in Phoenix he was not very over with the WWE audience and couldn't work a good match that had to go 20 minutes, he was exposed as nothing but a look and hype.

Vince tends to listen to suggestions from his main event talent (i.e., Shawn Michaels, Triple H, etc.)

Wrestler's tend to lie.

 

[Hunter Rider]

SD was good, everything AJ/Bryan worked and I thought Vickie and Dolph did well.

The qualifying matches were all decent and I'm really glad to see Tyson Kidd getting a bit of a push along with Sandow's quick elevation.

The triple threat main event was ok but I really think Sheamus is stuck in a rut.

 

[Specter313]

Unlike some that I've seen say they'd like to see Sandow win MITB, I really hope he doesn't. It's almost the exact same situation for what happened with Del Rio if he would win. Guy coming in with a lot of promise pushed to the top way too soon without building up credibility in the mid card scene.

 

[NDX]

I still don't much like Sandow in the MitB. Well, I do, but I think he'd be better suited taking the title of Santino and making that worth something again. At least. Maybe. One would hope.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Impact had it's moments, Aries/Roode continues to be good, I'm liking the seeming renewed push for Joe, and despite the obvious fact the Gutcheck is a work, I'm glad Taeler Hendrix is getting a shot.

TNA are wise to keep Brooke's stuff backstage and I thought Gail was good in her backstage promo. Speaking of backstage segments, looks like Madison wants her some Devon? and the Hogan/Storm/Hardy promo was effective, I like this less staged style TNA are using for the backstage parts.

Bully Ray's never ending losing streak and feud with Parkbyss makes me wonder if he's heading back to WWE when his contract expires.

I liked Rubix, TNA should add him to the roster and revive of the X division.

It was a shame the tag title main event was little more than filler to continue arguably the worst and most illogical angle in company history.

 

[MMMMM...Pancakes]

Unlike some that I've seen say they'd like to see Sandow win MITB, I really hope he doesn't. It's almost the exact same situation for what happened with Del Rio if he would win. Guy coming in with a lot of promise pushed to the top way too soon without building up credibility in the mid card scene.

I agree with this, Del Rio was awesome up until he won the Rumble, it was just too much, too soon. They need to take it slow with Sandow.

 

[Slushy]

How is it a terrible idea to do that? Cena is the WWE flagship no matter how much you hate on him, and unlike Rock and Brock he cares about the business and will be there no matter what.

This guy said it best:

John Cena has only been the #1 top star because the WWE has made him the top star, not so much because the fans did, where as guy's like Stone Cold and The Rock were really made stars by the fans. Cena really has been shoved down everyones throats, and wouldn't be where he is if other stars were given equal opportunities. Compare today's roster to the roster between 1997-2003, the WWE had multiple top stars. Yes like now, back then they had their #1, but that top guy would get beaten quite often by the other talents under him. That's why the WWE has gotten stale, because they have tried to make Cena appear invincible, like Hulk Hogan in the 80's. Over the last 7 years Cena hasn't been all that entertaining, not to the point where he should headline and win almost every pay per view. People talk about Triple H holding guys back, well the truth is, Cena has done just as much damage to the company in that regard, and it took someone like Punk to say last year "I've had enough" for WWE to realize it. Maybe we would have seen a different superstar face The Rock if the WWE hadn't made Cena pretty much the only star over the last decade, and perhaps now we wouldn't be getting below average Wrestlemania events every year.

After Vince McMahon come out and publicly spoke from the heart on Raw for The Rock's birthday not long back, I knew then that The Rock was going to win at Wrestlemania. Unlike Stone Cold and The Rock, Cena hasn't saved the company from anything. Actually to many, the company once again needs saving, only this time not from bankruptcy but from Cena, as he has been a big part of their current problems. The WWE was close to going out of business during the WCW war. The WWE owes The Rock and Stone Cold a lot for getting them through that, and I believe that's exactly what the WWE did by allowing The Rock to win, they showed their appreciation.

 

[Hunter Rider]

This guy said it best:

What he said is an absolute crock of **** riddled with falsities.

 

[baby_webhead]

Ive kinda been out of wrestling since the last PPV. I just keep up by reading updates here.

Part of me not watching has something to do with Dolph and Cody getting pushed anymore. If their push continued at the proper pace, they could have been great main eventers by now. And Zack Ryder should have been solid midcarder instead of a jobber.

I guess that's why I'm more into NXT now. it gives the little guys a chance to shine.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Lol, "The Unstoppable" John Cena, at least WWE is acknowledging that Cena doesn't lose.

Haha.