Ziggler gets a Wrestling Thread...It's About Damn Time!!!

[The Sage]

I never understood the argument over who was the bigger draw.Is there really a scientific way to find out who drew more than another wrestler?There's like a bunch of other factors that can play into buyrates.For example who knows if people are buying shows for just one person?Some people could be buying shows just to see Hornswoggle.It never really made sense to me.

The headliners are always considered the main draws in wrestling. Hogan and the nWo were WCW's maindraw during the Monday Night Wars. Austin was the main draw during that period for WWF. Cena's been the headliner for the last seven years, so he's considered the draw.

And I guess nowadays you can break it down with how many people are viewing tv segments that feature certain stars.

Of course, part of it is also the booking and the storyline. A guy could be really popular but not booked well, and the ratings could reflect that.

 

[Slushy]

yet none of you bought it and then make the bogus claim he's the reason that an established and growing Hollywood franchise drew a few extra million

There are movie fans than wrestling fans. And Vin Diesel > Miz

 

[Hunter Rider]

Well people use Rock's drawing power as justification for Rock not putting anyone over since he's been back. Acting like his mere presence is doing so much for the business. When iyou look at the buyrates and TV ratings of the shows Rock has been on, he's not delivering.

Exactly and that's how this whole thing started, it came out this week that the Mania buyrate is nothing groundbreaking, since then Blackheart has been on a crusade.

There are movie fans than wrestling fans. And Vin Diesel > Miz

I give up dude.

 

[Superark]

I like his rock remix the best

AJStyles.Org‏@AJStylesOrg
I think I'm going to go back to my grits ( get ready to fly) entrance music. What do u think?

 

[Incrediblejeff]

The headliners are always considered the main draws in wrestling. Hogan and the nWo were WCW's maindraw during the Monday Night Wars. Austin was the main draw during that period for WWF. Cena's been the headliner for the last seven years, so he's considered the draw.

And I guess nowadays you can break it down with how many people are viewing tv segments that feature certain stars.

Of course, part of it is also the booking and the storyline. A guy could be really popular but not booked well, and the ratings could reflect that.

Do they count ratings on PPV's as well or is it just you buy it,and that's all that matters?

And Cena has the the headliner for the last 7 years? I did not know it has been that long.

WWE needs a new headliner badly.

 

[TX85]

I like his rock remix the best

I prefer his original"I Am"theme!
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[Incrediblejeff]

I decided to make a quiz,Can anybody name them all?

http://www.sporcle.com/games/incrediblejeff/superstars-ryback-has-defeated

 

[Wheels]

I just call all of Ryback's opponents by the same name: Jobby Jobberson.

 

[Incrediblejeff]

Sound like a good bonus answers.

 

[Pink Ranger]

I just call all of Ryback's opponents by the same name: Jobby Jobberson.

Trained by Arthur Yacht, Lance Uppercut and Scobey Trumpet.

 

[Van Petrol]

I suppose this is how the majority of the locker room would like to welcome The Rock back when he pops in and out these days...

 

[bullets]

Considering one of the main reasons people (including myself) went to go watch the movie was to see Vin Diesel fight The Rock, you're wrong, but its okay. You and Metallo hate Dwayne. I get it.

The only reason I went to see Fast Five was because of the Rock fighting Vin Diesel. However the main selling point of the film was returning cast members from the series. Also the trailer showed that they had taken the action up a notch. I think it appealed to action fans and F&F fans alike.



I like the Rock as an action star though. I enjoyed The Rundown and was hoping he would take on the action film mantle. I think he had the charisma and a decent fanbase.

I HATE the People's Elbow! I think that is is one of the dumbest & most illogical moves ever.

I hate his catchphrase "Do you smell what the Rock is cooking?"

No , and I don't want to.


Also every promo ends with that annoying FINALLY!!!.... It takes forever and I've seen it a million times. It just gets old.

He's a funny guy though. I don't hate the Rock by any means but some stuff I just want to fast forward through.

 

[MMMMM...Pancakes]

I suppose this is how the majority of the locker room would like to welcome The Rock back when he pops in and out these days...

This was around the time I started watching WWE, a bit nostalgic for me. Thanks for posting that.

 

[Anno_Domini]

I HATE the People's Elbow! I think that is is one of the dumbest & most illogical moves ever.

Here's to you!

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I hate his catchphrase "Do you smell what the Rock is cooking?"

No , and I don't want to.


Also every promo ends with that annoying FINALLY!!!.... It takes forever and I've seen it a million times. It just gets old.

He's a funny guy though. I don't hate the Rock by any means but some stuff I just want to fast forward through.

Wrestlers have catchphrases and repeated promos. It happens.

 

[Wheels]

I enjoy The Rock but he doesn't appeal to me as much as others from his era. I'll take Austin, Foley, Jericho, and Angle over him.

 

[Van Petrol]

This was around the time I started watching WWE, a bit nostalgic for me. Thanks for posting that.

Welcome, friend.

 

[Incrediblejeff]

Wow,this is a Horrible Promo.

[YT]BUf0HeZIfO4[/YT]

 

[bullets]

Wrestlers have catchphrases and repeated promos. It happens.

Not saying it doesn't but some wrestlers try new things after awhile. Rock did switch things up in the past but that "finally" part of the promo is akin to Randy Orton walking to the ring for me. It's always going to be part of his routine though because fans in the arena can participate.

Wow,this is a Horrible Promo.

[YT]BUf0HeZIfO4[/YT]

That was painful. He should of consulted the master of promos Jumpin Jeff Farmer.

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[The Apocalypse]

Wow,this is a Horrible Promo.

[YT]BUf0HeZIfO4[/YT]

All I got out of that was Tony Schiavone's mustache

 

[Wheels]

Tony Schiavone's mustache deserves a WWE HOF spot more than Drew Carey.

 

[bullets]

Miz's new look for the Marine 3 ( are these films actually connected? )

WWE has compiled a list of Cena's top 50 matches.. Here's the listing

Spoiler

50. John Cena vs. JBL: WrestleMania 21
49. John Cena, Hulk Hogan & Shawn Michaels vs. Christian, Tomko & Chris Jericho: Raw (June 27, 2005)
48. John Cena vs. The Great Khali: Judgment Day 2007
47. John Cena vs. Booker T: SummerSlam 2004
46. John Cena & The Rock vs. The Miz & R-Truth: Survivor Series 2011
45. John Cena vs. Kurt Angle: No Mercy 2003
44. WWE Championship Elimination Chamber Match: Elimination Chamber 2011
43. John Cena vs. The Miz vs. John Morrison: Extreme Rules 2011
42. John Cena vs. Kane: Elimination Chamber 2012
41. Team WWE vs. The Nexus: Summerslam 2010
40. John Cena vs. Triple H vs. Edge: Backlash 2006
39. John Cena vs. Randy Orton: Summerslam 2007
38. John Cena vs. Chris Jericho: Raw (Aug. 22, 2005)
37. John Cena, The Undertaker & DX vs. CM Punk & Legacy: Smackdown (Oct. 2, 2009)
36. John Cena vs. Wade Barrett: WWE TLC 2010
35. John Cena vs. Brock Lesnar: Backlash 2003
34. John Cena vs. The Undertaker: Vengeance 2003
33. John Cena vs. Rob Van Dam vs. Edge: Raw (July 3, 2006)
32. WWE Championship Elimination Chamber Match: New Year's Revolution 2006
31. John Cena vs. Edge vs. Big Show: The 25th Anniversary of WrestleMania
30. John Cena vs. Triple H: Raw (Oct. 19, 2009)
29. John Cena vs. Eddie Guerrero: SmackDown (Sept. 11, 2003)
28. John Cena & The Undertaker vs. DX vs. Jeri-Show: Raw (Nov. 16, 2009)
27. John Cena vs Batista: Extreme Rules 2010
26. John Cena vs. Sabu: WWE vs. ECW Head to Head (June 7, 2006)
25. John Cena vs. Edge: Backlash 2009
24. John Cena vs. Randy Orton: Breaking Point 2009
23. John Cena vs. Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson: WrestleMania 28
22. John Cena vs. Triple H: Night of Champions 2008
21. John Cena vs. Kurt Angle: No Way Out 2005
20. John Cena vs. JBL: Judgment Day 2005
19. 2008 Royal Rumble Match
18. John Cena vs. Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels: Survivor Series 2009
17. John Cena vs. The Undertaker: Smackdown (June 24, 2004)
16. John Cena vs. Big Show: WrestleMania XX
15. John Cena vs. Rob Van Dam: ECW One Night Stand 2006
14. John Cena vs. Chris Jericho: SummerSlam 2005
13. John Cena vs. Booker T: No Mercy 2004
12. John Cena vs. Rey Mysterio: RAW (July 25, 2011)
11. WWE Championship Elimination Chamber Match: Elimination Chamber 2010
10. John Cena vs. Kurt Angle: SmackDown (June 27, 2002)
9. John Cena vs. Shawn Michaels: WrestleMania 23
8. John Cena vs. Brock Lesnar: Extreme Rules 2012
7. John Cena vs. Batista: Wrestlemania XXVI
6. John Cena vs. Umaga: Royal Rumble 2007
5. John Cena vs. CM Punk: Money in the Bank 2011
4. John Cena vs. Triple H: WrestleMania 22
3. John Cena vs. Randy Orton: Bragging Rights 2009
2. John Cena vs. Shawn Michaels: RAW (April 23, 2007)
1. John Cena vs. Edge: Unforgiven 2006

 

[Anno_Domini]

Imo, Cena vs Punk MITB '11 should be number one, then Cena vs Edge at Unforgiven '06, then Cena vs Michaels WrestleMania 23.

 

[bullets]

Cena vs HBK at WM 23 should be much higher and I would rank his match with Mysterio on Raw last year as much lower.


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[Slushy]

My 10 favorite Cena matches:

Vs. Lesnar - Backlash 2003

Vs. Guerrero - SD Sep. 2003 (Parking Lot Brawl)

Vs. Angle - No Mercy 2003

Vs. Undertaker - SD June 2004

Vs. Jericho - SummerSlam 2005

Vs. Edge - Royal Rumble 2006

Vs. Helmsley - Wrestlemania 22

Vs. Orton - SummerSlam 2007

Vs. Batista - Wrestlemania 26

Vs. Punk - Money In The Bank 2011

Honorable mention: Vs. Mysterio - RAW 2011

 

[The Sage]

Do they count ratings on PPV's as well or is it just you buy it,and that's all that matters?

And Cena has the the headliner for the last 7 years? I did not know it has been that long.

WWE needs a new headliner badly.

Imo, Cena vs Punk MITB '11 should be number one, then Cena vs Edge at Unforgiven '06, then Cena vs Michaels WrestleMania 23.

That sounds more like it.

There's no way in the world Cena/HHH at Wrestlemania 22 and Orton/Cena at Bragging Rights 2009 should be higher than Cena/Punk. The former wasn't that good and neither was the Bragging Rights bout.